McGoldrick

[This Charming Man]

Don't even get me started on that pathetic waste of space. The c*nt is completly useless - hopefully he will f*ck off in Jan, then again, I doubt anyone would have the sense to buy a striker who is work-shy, lazy, has zero ability to control a ball, hold the ball up, beat his man and even get the ball on target - let alone score

[Weston Saint]

Just not cutting the mustard at present.

[ottery st mary]

Don't even get me started on that pathetic waste of space. The c*nt is completly useless - hopefully he will f*ck off in Jan, then again, I doubt anyone would have the sense to buy a striker who is work-shy, lazy, has zero ability to control a ball, hold the ball up, beat his man and even get the ball on target - let alone score

 

Other than that did he look the part?

[saint1977]

I still think he has more ability than most of our players and could be a very good player at this level.

 

He would benefit by playing upfront with a strike partner who knows how to be a striker in professional league football.

 

He has shown some CCC calibre moments but not across the board but I think he needs a kick up the backside. Agree on Robertson, one lovely goal V Norwich but other than that, a total waste of a loan and whatever we're paying him, Smith and Pekhart is too much and we could have used that on a proper striker or towards Rasiak/John's wages. Wotte and Lowe should be held accountable for wasting this money.

[callysaint76]

McGoldrick will become a very good player, the majority of you are idiots and don't understand football.

[Ponty]

I can't believe it's taken you all so long! It was obvious he was shocking at a fully competitive level when we played Mansfield away in the cup 3 or 4 years ago.

[rocknrollman no2]

McGoldrick will become a very good player, the majority of you are idiots and don't understand football.

 

 

Blimey!!!!

Ive just seen a pig flying past my window.

[callysaint76]

Blimey!!!!

Ive just seen a pig flying past my window.

 

and you are one of those idiots

[OldNick]

and you are one of those idiots

dont worry we had the same bull when Crouch joined , Fuller also. MLT was called a lazy fat g##, and a luxury by some fans but they changed their minds on 2 of the listed and Fuller has proved himself since he found a club whose fans embraced him.Strangely he did well when he was loaned to Ipswich and came back (they also made him feel welcome)

We had the same nonsense about KD last season as well.He's only 19 ffs

[um pahars]

dont worry we had the same bull when Crouch joined , Fuller also. MLT was called a lazy fat g##, and a luxury by some fans but they changed their minds on 2 of the listed and Fuller has proved himself since he found a club whose fans embraced him.Strangely he did well when he was loaned to Ipswich and came back (they also made him feel welcome)

We had the same nonsense about KD last season as well.He's only 19 ffs

 

he is 21 actually and made his debut for Notts County over 4 years ago and his debut for us over 3 years ago.

[rocknrollman no2]

and you are one of those idiots

The only idiots on here are those who believe all of the Lowe spin.

Sound like you Cally?

Guess the useless,lazy player ive seen all season isnt really McGoldrick then?

Tell me one reason why you think McGoldrick is any good?

[OldNick]

he is 21 actually and made his debut for Notts County over 4 years ago and his debut for us over 3 years ago.

is he ? I could have sworn he was 19 but I cant be faffed to look it up and I do know you would have and so trust your post.

[um pahars]

is he ? I could have sworn he was 19 but I cant be faffed to look it up and I do know you would have and so trust your post.

 

He will soon be at the stage where he can really no longer be called a youngster.

 

He's made almost 60 league appearances and another 20 as a substitute since his Notts County debut over 4 years ago.

 

He's had decent spells when out on loan and this season he has been almost ever present. I would argue he has been given his chance this season, but IMHO he has not proved himself.

 

He still might turn it around, but I just can't help but think that if you're that good, then you should be doing it by the time you're 21 (after all, Shearer left us at the same age).

[derry]

dont worry we had the same bull when Crouch joined , Fuller also. MLT was called a lazy fat g##, and a luxury by some fans but they changed their minds on 2 of the listed and Fuller has proved himself since he found a club whose fans embraced him.Strangely he did well when he was loaned to Ipswich and came back (they also made him feel welcome)

We had the same nonsense about KD last season as well.He's only 19 ffs

 

For a start he was 21 0n 29th Nov. Secondly KD was awful, his shot stopping was his only plus. It seems Webster going has turned him into a half decent goalkeeper, coming and catching or punching crosses, distributing well and aiming his long ball wide, instead of at the central defenders. I would now be sorry to see him go.

 

McGoldrick has had a few decent high energy games but sad to say there have been too many, like last night. Low energy, following the ball, poor positional play, running up blind alleys, ably assisted by Lallana.

 

Both of them played like schoolboys, just wanting to run round in circles with the ball going nowhere, whilst neglecting the positional role they were given. Our right side attacking is absolutely rediculous relying on a full back to eventually fill the empty space.

Edited 9 December, 2008 by derry

[Whitey Grandad]

For a start he's 20. Secondly KD was awful, his shot stopping was his only plus. It seems Webster going has turned him into a half decent goalkeeper, coming and catching or punching crosses, distributing well and aiming his long ball wide, instead of at the central defenders. I would now be sorry to see him go.

d.o.b. 27th November 1987? In my day that would have made you a man.

[VectisSaint]

McGoldrick will become a very good player, the majority of you are idiots and don't understand football.

I think you may be right with the first part of your statement, unlike the second part where you are so wide of the mark it is untrue. Sadly, McG could become a good player. What he needs is a coach that understands how he could become a good player, to play in a system that suits his style, and to play alongside an experienced player who can take some of the heat off him and help him score goals. He will get none of that at Southampton under the present regime. Meanwhile we have to put up with his ego, and with him being played continually even though he is playing poorly, and if we soldier on with him regardless as seems to be the plan, we plummet to League 1. For another player that has no loyalty to us, and is strictly not a product of our youth system I don't see why we persist. Finally, he also needs an enormous kick up his lardy arse before he fritters away a promising career.

[OldNick]

For a start he's 20. Secondly KD was awful, his shot stopping was his only plus. It seems Webster going has turned him into a half decent goalkeeper, coming and catching or punching crosses, distributing well and aiming his long ball wide, instead of at the central defenders. I would now be sorry to see him go.

 

McGoldrick has had a few decent high energy games but sad to say there have been too many, like last night. Low energy, following the ball, poor positional play, running up blind alleys, ably assisted by Lallana.

 

Both of them played like schoolboys, just wanting to run round in circles with the ball going nowhere, whilst neglecting the positional role they were given. Our right side attacking is absolutely rediculous relying on a full back to eventually fill the empty space.

As much as it pains me to say that Um is right I have to do so on this occasion.He has just turned 21.

Therefore DMG does have to get his mind in gear and start to show consistancy or he will be another who looked to have a bright future and let it go to waste.Im still prepared to give him some slack and would like to see him with a experiienced physically strong forward up wit hhim

[Whitey Grandad]

He has the potential to be a good player but at 21 his development is 3 or 4 years behind where it should be. His workrate and speed of thought get slower as each game goes by.

[derry]

As much as it pains me to say that Um is right I have to do so on this occasion.He has just turned 21.

Therefore DMG does have to get his mind in gear and start to show consistancy or he will be another who looked to have a bright future and let it go to waste.Im still prepared to give him some slack and would like to see him with a experiienced physically strong forward up wit hhim

 

He has ability on the ball, but he doesn't have the self discipline that is needed to keep his position and get into dangerous areas, by gambling on runs into the box on the offchance, if playing in the hole/up front, or staying wide and attacking the far post if playing wide.

 

We are not playing anything like total football, as the empty spaces would be taken up by someone getting into them.

[krissyboy31]

As much as it pains me to say that Um is right I have to do so on this occasion.He has just turned 21.

Therefore DMG does have to get his mind in gear and start to show consistancy or he will be another who looked to have a bright future and let it go to waste.Im still prepared to give him some slack and would like to see him with a experiienced physically strong forward up wit hhim

 

So would most of us but it doesn't look like happening under the current regime.

[callysaint76]

I think you may be right with the first part of your statement, unlike the second part where you are so wide of the mark it is untrue. Sadly, McG could become a good player. What he needs is a coach that understands how he could become a good player, to play in a system that suits his style, and to play alongside an experienced player who can take some of the heat off him and help him score goals. He will get none of that at Southampton under the present regime. Meanwhile we have to put up with his ego, and with him being played continually even though he is playing poorly, and if we soldier on with him regardless as seems to be the plan, we plummet to League 1. For another player that has no loyalty to us, and is strictly not a product of our youth system I don't see why we persist. Finally, he also needs an enormous kick up his lardy arse before he fritters away a promising career.

 

I do agree with many parts of what your saying, but i hate the way everyone is so quick to slag off a player when he clearly has a lot of talent. I obviously exaggerated saying the 'majority' are idiots as your views are correct in many respects and its not people like you that i was referring to.

 

and to that rocknrollman fella, maybe his last minute winner against preston is an indication that hes not actually that bad.

[rocknrollman no2]

I do agree with many parts of what your saying, but i hate the way everyone is so quick to slag off a player when he clearly has a lot of talent. I obviously exaggerated saying the 'majority' are idiots as your views are correct in many respects and its not people like you that i was referring to.

 

and to that rocknrollman fella, maybe his last minute winner against preston is an indication that hes not actually that bad.

I grant you that was good,but his poor performances totally outweigh his odd good one and as the team is at the moment,we cant afford to have Mc Goldrick wondering around the pitch aimlessly.

[um pahars]

I do agree with many parts of what your saying, but i hate the way everyone is so quick to slag off a player when he clearly has a lot of talent. I obviously exaggerated saying the 'majority' are idiots as your views are correct in many respects and its not people like you that i was referring to.

 

and to that rocknrollman fella, maybe his last minute winner against preston is an indication that hes not actually that bad.

 

I don't doubt that he has some talent, after all he has shown glimpses on a number of occasions and he scored shedloads in the youth team.

 

However, like many youngsters, the big question is can he replicate that form in the first team on a regular basis (and it is that conversion failure rate that worries me in this revolutionary coaching total dutch football attacking and exciting set up).

[VectisSaint]

I do agree with many parts of what your saying, but i hate the way everyone is so quick to slag off a player when he clearly has a lot of talent. I obviously exaggerated saying the 'majority' are idiots as your views are correct in many respects and its not people like you that i was referring to.

 

and to that rocknrollman fella, maybe his last minute winner against preston is an indication that hes not actually that bad.

The problem is that he has shown flashes in the past, and it has gone to his head. He has been bigged up by the Club, making out he is some sort of superstar, and like many other youngsters he has taken his eye off th ball, donned the flashy boots and thought he had it made, job done. Sadly our wonderful coaching set up that is so experienced working with young players don't see this and continue to make him an automatic choice, instead of taking him aside, giving him a right bollocking and dropping him to the reserves for a while until he gets a sense of perspective.

[Raven on the wing]

To sum up Mc Goldrick - runs about quite a lot scores very few goals : Raziak and Stern John - dont run about much but score plenty. Answer is ; get the kids to do your running for you and take up the right positions to score like James Beattie and Bret Ormerod.

[lordswoodsaints]

Taken from his OS interview

 

 

"Things have gone really well for me so far this season and long may that continue," he said.

 

 

OMG!!!

 

problem is they are fed this sh1te by the coaching team etc and they start to believe the hype.it is never going to happen but they should be told the facts,its harsh but how else are they supposed to know they are sh1te.

if you are told you are not performing as you should then it gives you the oppurtunity to put things right,if you have your ego massaged at every turn, which includes getting an unjustified long run in the first team then how the hell are you to know you are not any good.

i know our options are limited but i think McG has had his chance,time for somebody else to have a go.

[um pahars]

i know our options are limited but i think McG has had his chance,time for somebody else to have a go.

 

But isn't that the problem we are now faced with, in that we have boxed ourselves in with the current system and personnel brought in???

 

We set our stall out believing that DMG was the next big thing and we haven't really got a back up, particularly if we're going to play with only one up front???

 

I don't think Lallana is effective in the hole, then again I don't think we have really managed with anyone in that position this season, so what's the alternative???

 

Two up front???? Robertson and Paterson, recall White to play up there alongside one of the taller lads, Robertson & Pekhart, Pekhart & Paterson.

 

I don't just see we have any alternative.

[lordswoodsaints]

But isn't that the problem we are now faced with, in that we have boxed ourselves in with the current system and personnel brought in???

 

We set our stall out believing that DMG was the next big thing and we haven't really got a back up, particularly if we're going to play with only one up front???

 

I don't think Lallana is effective in the hole, then again I don't think we have really managed with anyone in that position this season, so what's the alternative???

 

Two up front???? Robertson and Paterson, recall White to play up there alongside one of the taller lads, Robertson & Pekhart, Pekhart & Paterson.

 

I don't just see we have any alternative.

 

im all for playing 2 upfront,and i would also like to see lallana playing in that 'peter beardsley' type role that was so effective,this was hinted at the other night by one of the commentators and i think it could work,but as you say,our current system seems to be set in stone and it doesnt look they are willing to change it.

[SFC Forever]

McGoldrick will become a very good player, the majority of you are idiots and don't understand football.

 

I may only have ever managed a sunday league team but if my striker did as little as him he would never ever see the colour of the strip again. He has shown glimpses of talent but rarely bothers to turn up ready for work.

Of course he says he's happy. He is being paid for wandering aimlessly around the park. And that is only when he feels like it.

As has been said before by others Stern John and Rasiak are out on loan because we can't afford them. We can't afford them because we have, Pekhart,Robinson, and others taking our money and can't get a game.

[scotty]

I have to work most saturdays, and the only game I've been able to get to all season was blackpool at st marys. We were hopeless across the board, but I thought mcgoldrick looked very sharp and made himself busy throughout, and he hit the bar in the last minute with a whack that most of the crowd thought was the equaliser.

[St Landrew]

I'm really disappointed with McGoldrick this season. He promised so much during his academy and reserve team days. He used to be able to score for fun, and when he started this season, I thought, whoopee, here we go. But it's all dried up. I believe he's lost confidence and belief, and when that happens it needs a major turnaround. I hope for his sake and ours he can recapture his timing and effectiveness in front of goal, and the sooner, the better.

[ottery st mary]

I am surprised that an old striker Like JE or John, Rasiak, Saga or even Roy of The Rovers

have not taken him aside and carried out a little mentoring about attitude, running channels, timing runs, positional etc etc....Coaches not playing right systems etc or tactical changes/selections/substitutions to suit our star striker.....

Then again if he was that good most of this would be natural to him......Just maybe he had as a youth and now he has some how lost it....

 

I know I had it once but now I'VE LOST IT FOR GOOD...So my wife told me....

[hughieslastminutegoal]

..... then maybe our neat passing outside the penalty area is not the way forward.

 

You got that dead right. Its the way sideways and backwards.

[Whitey Grandad]

You got that dead right. Its the way sideways and backwards.

I call it 'crabby' football.

[(not THE) Kevin Moore]

Ah so this season McGoldrick is the 'hate figure' that's good to know. It's important that us Saints fans find at least one player on our own team to abuse and despise.

 

FWIW I thought McGoldrick held the ball up brilliantly against Palace his first touch and control are consistently good and IF the system worked in terms of providing him with willing runners on the overlap then we'd be doing pretty well. That fact that he is getting little support does him no favours but as far as I can see he is doing nothing wrong at all, he was tracking back and putting himself about so neither 'crap' or 'lazy' his finishing might not be there yet but hopefully that will come in time and he'll need games to get there.

 

But obviously it makes sense to slate him and destroy his confidence and hopefully get him dropped... what with all the quality we have in reserve.

[solentstars]

Ah so this season McGoldrick is the 'hate figure' that's good to know. It's important that us Saints fans find at least one player on our own team to abuse and despise.

 

FWIW I thought McGoldrick held the ball up brilliantly against Palace his first touch and control are consistently good and IF the system worked in terms of providing him with willing runners on the overlap then we'd be doing pretty well. That fact that he is getting little support does him no favours but as far as I can see he is doing nothing wrong at all, he was tracking back and putting himself about so neither 'crap' or 'lazy' his finishing might not be there yet but hopefully that will come in time and he'll need games to get there.

 

But obviously it makes sense to slate him and destroy his confidence and hopefully get him dropped... what with all the quality we have in reserve.

i wonder who they will single out next for abuse.

[Pancake]

i wonder who they will single out next for abuse.

 

My money is on Lallana

[(not THE) Kevin Moore]

My money is on Lallana

 

Yeah he's rubbish he is, will never make the grade.

[West End Saint]

I might get some stick for saying it but I think DMG could be a decent player I just wish his ego was'nt bigger than his talent he has to do things passes shots ect in a flashy Holywood way rather than just do the simple thing well he is a different player when Euell is in the team and like a say if he can grow up and lose the attitude and buckle down and work for the team for 90 mins he COULD be a good player

[Papa Shango]

One of the worst players to ever pull on a Saints shirt.

[Papa Shango]

FWIW I thought McGoldrick held the ball up brilliantly against Palace his first touch and control are consistently good and IF the system worked in terms of providing him with willing runners on the overlap then we'd be doing pretty well. That fact that he is getting little support does him no favours but as far as I can see he is doing nothing wrong at all, he was tracking back and putting himself about so neither 'crap' or 'lazy' his finishing might not be there yet but hopefully that will come in time and he'll need games to get there

 

Is this a joke?

[derry]

Ah so this season McGoldrick is the 'hate figure' that's good to know. It's important that us Saints fans find at least one player on our own team to abuse and despise.

 

FWIW I thought McGoldrick held the ball up brilliantly against Palace his first touch and control are consistently good and IF the system worked in terms of providing him with willing runners on the overlap then we'd be doing pretty well. That fact that he is getting little support does him no favours but as far as I can see he is doing nothing wrong at all, he was tracking back and putting himself about so neither 'crap' or 'lazy' his finishing might not be there yet but hopefully that will come in time and he'll need games to get there.

 

But obviously it makes sense to slate him and destroy his confidence and hopefully get him dropped... what with all the quality we have in reserve.

 

It wasn't his job to hold the ball up, it was Robertson allegedly playing up front, he was either not playing as the support striker or not playing wide. Lallana was not playing those positions either. Both of them were self indulgent, headless chickens, dribbleing in circles and going nowhere.

 

Neither of them played in their assigned positions, neither gave us width, got into dangerous attacking positions and followed the ball around like playground football.

 

Our lack of a player wide, apart from James doing his best to fill two positions, was a disgrace and down in no small part to those two.

[Matt SFC]

omgz i hates mcgoldrick. he is so sh*t not fit to wear the shirt etc etc etc. mcgoldrick is not in the squad for a game or two, and numerous threads pop up on here asking where he is and claiming to be our best player/the only one who can get us out of this mess. this forum is a joke.

[derry]

omgz i hates mcgoldrick. he is so sh*t not fit to wear the shirt etc etc etc. mcgoldrick is not in the squad for a game or two, and numerous threads pop up on here asking where he is and claiming to be our best player/the only one who can get us out of this mess. this forum is a joke.

 

What utter garbage, we have played 24 games this season, McGoldrick has started 23 of them and came on as substitute in the other one.

 

People who make stupid comments on this forum totally devoid of facts are the joke.

[Dicko]

omgz i hates mcgoldrick. he is so sh*t not fit to wear the shirt etc etc etc. mcgoldrick is not in the squad for a game or two, and numerous threads pop up on here asking where he is and claiming to be our best player/the only one who can get us out of this mess. this forum is a joke.

 

I will buy you a pint, if you can find me numerous threads claiming DMcG is the man to get us out of this mess

[OldNick]

One of the worst players to ever pull on a Saints shirt.

Is this a joke?

[OldNick]

Ah so this season McGoldrick is the 'hate figure' that's good to know. It's important that us Saints fans find at least one player on our own team to abuse and despise.

 

FWIW I thought McGoldrick held the ball up brilliantly against Palace his first touch and control are consistently good and IF the system worked in terms of providing him with willing runners on the overlap then we'd be doing pretty well. That fact that he is getting little support does him no favours but as far as I can see he is doing nothing wrong at all, he was tracking back and putting himself about so neither 'crap' or 'lazy' his finishing might not be there yet but hopefully that will come in time and he'll need games to get there.

 

But obviously it makes sense to slate him and destroy his confidence and hopefully get him dropped... what with all the quality we have in reserve.

Kevin we live in a blame society and so people need someone to blame.

DMG is the current fall guy. Fans dont wish to see the plusses, although to be fair there are a lot who are supportive.3 weeks ago BWP had loads of threads about him.It seems to become a hero you have ot be loaned out and then you become a must have legend.

[Thedelldays]

omgz i hates mcgoldrick. he is so sh*t not fit to wear the shirt etc etc etc. mcgoldrick is not in the squad for a game or two, and numerous threads pop up on here asking where he is and claiming to be our best player/the only one who can get us out of this mess. this forum is a joke.

 

 

i am serious here...

 

show me evidence of these NUMEROUS threads and I will happily cut of my right hand and post it to you....

[Chez]

I personally rate him and hate seeing Saints supporters jump on his back as they did with Fuller, KJ and BWP. You ****s never ****ing learn. If you give these young guys time they will improve and show what they have. How many of you ******s would take Fuller back now. Every ****ing on of you if you have half a clue about anything.

 

This is his first full season and he is playing regularly - hence things are going well for him - certainly compared to previous seasons where he didn't get a look in. OK so he could do with a goal or two, but FFS when will you ****ers learn that most pros take a while to find their feet. Check out the scoring of BT and MLT in their first full seasons at SFC.

 

This guys has talent and if nutured correctly he could prove to be a very good player for us.

[Thedelldays]

chez

 

i feel you hve fallen for the hype that our academy spits out great players..when it truth...it simply does not..