Colinjb Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 In the Football 365 mailbox today, a letter from a 'John Daniels' states that he has heard that Morgan is eligible for a British passport and therefore could play for England. Doubt he would ever want to, he seems to be a proud frenchman to me, but is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 He will play for France eventually, plus he's played @ U21 level. And also, wouldn't he need an English blood relative to make this even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 September, 2013 (edited) He will play for France eventually, plus he's played @ U21 level. And also, wouldn't he need an English blood relative to make this even possible? Under FIFA rules players can become naturalised citizens, hence Deco playing for Portugal not Brazil. From wikipedia: None of Deco's great grandparents, grandparents or parents were Portuguese and therefore under Fifa's player eligibility rules required Portuguese citizenship to be considered eligible. Manuel Almunia was also eligible for England having lived here for 5 years. Edited 2 September, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 He can't play for England colin, they closed that loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 September, 2013 He can't play for England colin, they closed that loophole. When was this Bearsy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 He can't play for England colin, they closed that loophole. nope, its only the UK countries who can't do it due to some agreement between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Isn't there some new rule that requires a player to have a dual-nationality at the time of him playing U21 internationals for his birth nation if he wants to change to the other nation later? In other words, if Morgan had been born with an English nationality he could have changed but because he's already represented France before obtaining the English nationality he cannot change. I can't seem to find this online but I'm pretty sure I read that FIFA changed this a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Article 18.1.a within the Fifa statutes outlines that any player who has represented their country in an official competition, at whatever level (i.e. including youth level), would at that time need to have held a passport for the country they later wish to play for in order to be permitted to make the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Said in an interview at the back end of last season he wouldn't play for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Article 18.1.a within the Fifa statutes outlines that any player who has represented their country in an official competition, at whatever level (i.e. including youth level), would at that time need to have held a passport for the country they later wish to play for in order to be permitted to make the switch. Look at you quoting statute. You are Matthew Le God and I claim my free ride on Uncle Avram's Thai carousel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 nope, its only the UK countries who can't do it due to some agreement between them. That loophole still exists, there is a gentleman's agreement between the 5 home nations not to poach from each others youth teams but it can still happen, NI/ROI do it a fair bit. Bearsy covers why it can't happen between other nations though, need to have a UK passport when he's playing in France U17's (or at least eligible is the more likely interpretation given uk players getting into ROI's squad willy nilly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Said in an interview at the back end of last season he wouldn't play for England. Le mot juste, mon brave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Arsenal rumoured to be in for him for £12m. Not a ****ing chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 And yes the rumour was Twitter, so doubly no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 nope, its only the UK countries who can't do it due to some agreement between them. Isn't France a UK country? Didn't we win it at Agincourt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Anyone know if Deschamps has ever gone on record to explain why he hasn't selected Schneiderlin yet? Maybe it's a simple case of them having too many riches in Morgan's position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Anyone know if Deschamps has ever gone on record to explain why he hasn't selected Schneiderlin yet? Maybe it's a simple case of them having too many riches in Morgan's position? Perhaps he shares the wum opinion that he has become absolute rubbish and will never be able to play football again because we signed Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Anyone know if Deschamps has ever gone on record to explain why he hasn't selected Schneiderlin yet? Maybe it's a simple case of them having too many riches in Morgan's position? Deschamps likes a certain type of player, I'm going to give you a list of names and you'll see what I mean Kondogbia,Pogba,Guillavogui,Sissoko, Capoué,M'Vila why even the ever dependable Gonalons has been dropped and Cabaye has been temporarily sidelined because he's in dispute with Newcastle and suspended for the first qualifier (then again so is Pogba). Morgan is paying the price for being put aside from the system because he didn't comply when the U21 coach of the time (since sacked for failure to qualify for the U21 Euro) told him to find a "better club". True he's had a couple of minor selections since then but was never part of their system. Deschamps also has a penchant for players playing in european competitions, f you look this summer all those not playing in Europe have moved on to clubs who are ,in some cases the instant that their club has been knocked out like Guilavogui. In brief Morgan is paying for his loyalty to Saints by being cast aside from the National Team. Deschamps doesn't watch him or have him watched, there's very little hope that he'll get a call whilst Deschamps calls the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Perhaps he shares the wum opinion that he has become absolute rubbish and will never be able to play football again because we signed Wanyama. Lols, there's no point France playing Morgan unless they can get Jack Cork as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Jacques Le Cork - n'est pas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2013 (edited) Jacques Le Cork - n'est pas? Naturellement Jacques Corque, non? Edited 3 September, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Naturelment Jacques Corque, non? they do have a bloke called Sebastien Corchia, great little LB but as he plays for Sochaux and they're not willing to sell him to Lyon for a packet of KP nuts and an orange he's out of the National team as well. 26 U21 games but not a single full cap, with DD you either play for a club he thinks is worthy or you don't get the nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Jesus, not this again. Can someone just search for the last time this was answered and post the link, it's a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Jesus, not this again. Can someone just search for the last time this was answered and post the link, it's a lot easier. Anyway the problem will disappear with Deschamps, he's a knob and only likes a certain type of player. If you think the English are critical of Woy's selection process you should see the comments on Deschamps in L'Equipe's forums. His choices are completely arbitrary, like Benzema who hasn't scored for France for about 2 years but he plays for Real so he keeps getting picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 That loophole still exists, there is a gentleman's agreement between the 5 home nations not to poach from each others youth teams but it can still happen, NI/ROI do it a fair bit. Since when was ROI a home nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Arsenal rumoured to be in for him for £12m. Not a ****ing chance. Typical isn't it. What planet are they living on?...we don't need their money and if they can spend £42 million on Ozil then I'd expect a darn sight more for Morgan, even though he isn't capped - yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Deschamps likes a certain type of player, I'm going to give you a list of names and you'll see what I mean Kondogbia,Pogba To be fair, a central pairing of Kondogbia & Pogba would be pretty immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Arsenal rumoured to be in for him for £12m. Not a ****ing chance. And yes the rumour was Twitter, so doubly no chance. http://www.givemesport.com/375783-arsenals-deadline-day-bid-for-southampton-star-rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 September, 2013 Share Posted 4 September, 2013 To be fair, a central pairing of Kondogbia & Pogba would be pretty immense. both are extremely undisciplined and Kondogbia blows hot and cold, he had some very poor games in the U20 WC where the French central pairing was in fact Pogba and Kondogbia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 September, 2013 Share Posted 4 September, 2013 He can't play for England colin, they closed that loophole. He can actually. He was also asked it directly in an interview over the summer (I think it was saintsplayer) and he basically said that he would be flattered if the call up came, but that he wants to play for france one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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