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Why the change in tactics to last season, where we play a much higher proportion of long balls. This cannot be the 'Southampton way' wanted by Cortese. Is it due to the fact that Wanyama isn't great at receiving and passing the ball quickly and accurately?
Where does that load of ****** come from - people that have written him off already? I have seen him 3 times and he is as quick as Morgan or Cork !!

Did you miss Sunderland second half - did he look slow then?

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Seems like ponch is learning English after all! Put in the mixer!

 

To be fair he was complaining last season bout it being waste of time doing the high press on the sh!t teams. I spose the ole long ball is his tactical response. Hopefully we'll go back to the press vs Liverpool, it was more Lols!

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Where does that load of ****** come from - people that have written him off already? I have seen him 3 times and he is as quick as Morgan or Cork !!

Did you miss Sunderland second half - did he look slow then?

 

He had one game where he didn't look amazing.

 

Therefore we need several threads discussing how useless he is, and what a waste of money he is.

 

On top of the multiple threads discussing the manager/tactics etc.

 

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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We have played more long balls this season than other team in the PL. I was just wondering why myself, and hoping someone could explain/re-assure me as to why?

 

Why is this forum such hard work to have a simple ffootball discussion on?

 

You do have a point. And it was one the reasons why we were not able to keep the ball against Norwich.

The ones who were hoofing it up to the front were mainly Fonte, Fox, Lovren and Chambers.

Deliberate tactic? If it was, then it didn't work on Saturday.

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When we play only one way people complain that we lack a plan B, and when we play a bit different complains come about that. (not an attack on OP, just an observation)

 

But as the answer, against Norwich because they were trying to put pressure on us, we tried to put it back to Boruc a lot of times but their pressure continued sp we had to play it long because of what they did. Against West Brom maybe a little in the second half of the same but nothing of it against Sunderland imo.

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I didn't see the Norwich game but in the other two games there were long balls, but not just hoof from the CB's Allardyce long ball. Maybe it is a plan B to the pressing game as we have learnt that teams that defend are much harder to press. Hoof balls we don't seem to do too much. Tbh what classifies as a long ball these days for stats?

 

Not a trolling thread at all either. A good footballing debate which is rare on this forum these days.

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I didn't see the Norwich game but in the other two games there were long balls, but not just hoof from the CB's Allardyce long ball. Maybe it is a plan B to the pressing game as we have learnt that teams that defend are much harder to press. Hoof balls we don't seem to do too much. Tbh what classifies as a long ball these days for stats?

 

Not a trolling thread at all either. A good footballing debate which is rare on this forum these days.

 

Cross field diagonal balls to me are not long balls as they probably have a higher completion rate. Long balls to me would be balls that defenders kick up top to the front men (Lambert's flick ons that don't usually come off or the duel is lost to the central defender)

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Cross field diagonal balls to me are not long balls as they probably have a higher completion rate.

 

They count as long balls to the statisticians, and that's why we've set the early pace for long ball accuracy. Finding the man in space, even if they're far away, is a skill that's been nurtured and utilised by almost every top English side of the Premier League era and plenty in Europe as well. Ferguson's Man Utd were especially good at it, and if we continue to play accurate diagonal balls we all ought to be very happy that Saints have added it to their game.

 

We also played some very decent aerial balls straight up the pitch on Saturday, controlled on feet and chests rather than headed down.

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They count as long balls to the statisticians, and that's why we've set the early pace for long ball accuracy. Finding the man in space, even if they're far away, is a skill that's been nurtured and utilised by almost every top English side of the Premier League era and plenty in Europe as well. Ferguson's Man Utd were especially good at it, and if we continue to play accurate diagonal balls we all ought to be very happy that Saints have added it to their game.

 

We also played some very decent aerial balls straight up the pitch on Saturday, controlled on feet and chests rather than headed down.

 

This, very much this.

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You know it's getting pretty bad on here when I'm the only one doing sensible reply!

 

Or, indeed, when Glasgow_Saint starts arguing with himself...

 

UJ.... are you a troll?

 

How is this a trolling thread?

 

Peeps keep saying you are? Im not sure

 

Confused.com

 

Well in future why don't you just reply to the post instead of asking stupid questions.
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Why the change in tactics to last season, where we play a much higher proportion of long balls. This cannot be the 'Southampton way' wanted by Cortese. Is it due to the fact that Wanyama isn't great at receiving and passing the ball quickly and accurately?
No it is not, and there is no evidence to suggest that Wanyama suffers from this affliction either. It is just that our tactics are defined by the opposition. Wait and see if we press high against Liverpool....
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