Signings

[BlakeySFC]

We've bought in 3 players,

 

Lovren for £8.5m from Lyon,

Wanyama for £12.3m from Celtic,

Osvaldo for £12.9m from AS Roma.

 

Only 1 of these players has actually improved the team, which is the extremely impressive Lovren. Even more pleasing to see was how dissappointed he was with yesterday's result, taking to twitter to say ' I am very dissappointed,' 'I am sure I will not sleep, good night and thank you for your support.'

 

Such a great player, and such a great personality as well.

 

With Wanyama and Osvaldo though, all we seem to done is upset the balance of the team. Morgan and Cork play SO well alongside one another and we've broken that key partnership up for no apparent reason just cause we fancied Wanyama.

 

The same with Osvaldo, we've shoe-horned him in the team to play alongside Lambert, when he'd be better suited to play up-top on his own.

 

We should've bought 1 decent championship DM and 1 decent championship Striker (Le Fondre maybe?) that wouldn't of minded sitting on the bench, playing in Carling Cup games etc. and waiting for the chance if SRL or Cork/Morgan got injured.

 

I also don't understand why we've shoe-horned Chambers and Ward-Prowse in the team, they're not ready for the 1st team in my opinion and we should be playing our best team every time no matter what.

[Batman]

if you dont play new signings, why make them?

[Barry the Badger]

Give me a t

Give me an r

Give me an o

Give me an l

Give me an l

[Viking Warrior]

Maybe we have some injuries maybe we are playing JWp until the transfer window shuts after Davies and cork will be back . Or maybe mp thinks he knows his best combination . What I do know is that I leave it to the manager to choose the team .

[BlakeySFC]

if you dont play new signings, why make them?

 

That's exactly the problem MP has.

 

He's trying to shoe-horn certain players into the team because they're new signings (which is fair enough I suppose) but its also upset the balance of the team.

 

I can't be the only 1 that's not overly impressed with Wanyama and Osvaldo so far?

 

Do we sign players just for the sake of it?

[Saint Garrett]

Do agree with you to a certain extent - but don't agree that we didn't need them. Lovren has been quality, and seems to come across as a top bloke as well.

 

Wanyama was excellent against WBA but awful yesterday (can't comment on Sunderland as wasn't there), Osvaldo will take a bit of time to settle, but agree that it's him or Rickie - no idea why we changed the system yesterday to fit them both in - but he's clearly got a lot of talent, and that swivel and shot yesterday was class.

 

It will take time and I guess we have to be patient, but I just think that Pochettino has got to start earning his money to find the correct formula for each game. Sometimes the best players don't make the best team.

[S-Clarke]

Wanyama had a very, very bad game yesterday - there's no denying that. But equally, he was very, very impressive against WBA. He had a bad game, so did Lambert and so did Morgan. It doesn't mean he's a bad player or a bad signing.

 

It was Osvaldo's full debut, and of the very few positives there were yesterday - it was how instinctive he was which impressed me most. Hits it first time, all the time. He will score goals as long as he gets the supply he requires.

 

But agree on Lovren, he's taken our defence to an entirely new level. An absolute class act.

 

Also, what's all the sudden panic about JWP and Chambers suddenly not being good enough? they were more than good enough last week, and the week before. It seems to be that if a young player has 1 bad game, they're not good enough. Well, both of them are good enough and will play a fair few games this year.

 

So, overall, those 3 signings aren't too bad at all really, are they? We do need 1 more though to be honest.

[CanadaSaint]

How can you talk about "upsetting the balance" when we're only three games in?

 

And sitting on four points?

[Roger]

Wanyama had a very, very bad game yesterday - there's no denying that. But equally, he was very, very impressive against WBA. He had a bad game, so did Lambert and so did Morgan. It doesn't mean he's a bad player or a bad signing.

 

It was Osvaldo's full debut, and of the very few positives there were yesterday - it was how instinctive he was which impressed me most. Hits it first time, all the time. He will score goals as long as he gets the supply he requires.

 

But agree on Lovren, he's taken our defence to an entirely new level. An absolute class act.

 

Also, what's all the sudden panic about JWP and Chambers suddenly not being good enough? they were more than good enough last week, and the week before. It seems to be that if a young player has 1 bad game, they're not good enough. Well, both of them are good enough and will play a fair few games this year.

 

So, overall, those 3 signings aren't too bad at all really, are they? We do need 1 more though to be honest.

 

Don't think you can say osvaldo was good yesterday. Too early to judge but not much to be positive about in his display yesterday, wasnt strong enough.

[SaintBobby]

We've bought in 3 players,

 

Lovren for £8.5m from Lyon,

Wanyama for £12.3m from Celtic,

Osvaldo for £12.9m from AS Roma.

 

Only 1 of these players has actually improved the team,

 

Wtf? Wanyama was excellent in his first two games. Osvaldo has only played for about 100 minutes - and has already shown some real promise.

 

All three signings improve the team.

[DuncanRG]

Ignore the troll

[Judge_B]

I've heard we're already looking at cancelling Osvaldo's contract due to his lack of impact.

 

At which point he'll be available on a free, in which case I think he'd be a great signing

[Barry Sanchez]

if you dont play new signings, why make them?

 

Chelsea, City, Liverpool, United, Spurs seem to manage this predicament.

[Batman]

Chelsea, City, Liverpool, United, Spurs seem to manage this predicament.

 

of course they do

[trousers]

400% improvement on last season so far. Damn these new players.

[Latheal]

Last Season

 

WBA (A) lost 2-0

Sunderland (H) lost 1-0

Norwich (A) drew 0-0

 

Pts return 1

 

This season

 

WBA (A) won 1-0

Sunderland (H) drew 1-1

Norwich (A) lost 1-0

 

Pts return 4

 

Looks a better return to me. We've got players playing in the premier for the first time, injuries to both our first choice full backs, young players who will always be inconsistent until they get the experience (in JWP and Chambers) and there are no easy games.

 

There seems to be the train of thought that we were smashing teams out of sight last year. We weren't. To me, we have the potential to be much better in the final third than we currently are but it will take time. The defence is already improved. The goal is to do better than last year and I can't see any reason why we won't do that.

 

Give players a chance to gel, give MP a chance with everybody fit so he can play the way he wants. Happy with what's going on at the moment.

[Olallana]

Summer/preseason on SWF: Why dont we sign new players, we need to sign new players, ffs sign some new players!!??

 

End of summer/season has started: Why dont we play our old players we had last year, ffs play the players we already had last year!!??

[DuncanRG]

Ignore the troll

[Olallana]

Chelsea, City, Liverpool, United, Spurs seem to manage this predicament.

 

You think City are happy with home wins to Newcastle and Hull and losing Cardiff away are happy and think it has woked out perfect??

Ok...

[Avenue Saint]

We've bought in 3 players,

 

Lovren for £8.5m from Lyon,

Wanyama for £12.3m from Celtic,

Osvaldo for £12.9m from AS Roma.

 

Only 1 of these players has actually improved the team, which is the extremely impressive Lovren. Even more pleasing to see was how dissappointed he was with yesterday's result, taking to twitter to say ' I am very dissappointed,' 'I am sure I will not sleep, good night and thank you for your support.'

 

Such a great player, and such a great personality as well.

 

With Wanyama and Osvaldo though, all we seem to done is upset the balance of the team. Morgan and Cork play SO well alongside one another and we've broken that key partnership up for no apparent reason just cause we fancied Wanyama.

 

The same with Osvaldo, we've shoe-horned him in the team to play alongside Lambert, when he'd be better suited to play up-top on his own.

 

We should've bought 1 decent championship DM and 1 decent championship Striker (Le Fondre maybe?) that wouldn't of minded sitting on the bench, playing in Carling Cup games etc. and waiting for the chance if SRL or Cork/Morgan got injured.

 

I also don't understand why we've shoe-horned Chambers and Ward-Prowse in the team, they're not ready for the 1st team in my opinion and we should be playing our best team every time no matter what.

 

Writing of an Italian international striker after a game and a half!

 

Only on saintsweb....

[Wrensup]

Wah wah wah wah....

[Batman]

man united have 4 points and dont have any signings

[The Kraken]

man united have 4 points and dont have any signings

And check out their forum, it makes this one look tame, pretty much every other thread bemoaning either the team selection, lack of signings or Moyes in general..

[Bearsy]

Writing of an Italian international striker after a game and a half!

 

Only on saintsweb....

 

meh he's no le fondre

[Glasgow_Saint]

man united have 4 points and dont have any signings

 

Good comparison....... Nat!

 

United have played Swansea away, Chelsea and Liverpool

 

We have played "the early shyte teams"

 

 

looks like WBA and sunderland are the early shyte teams

[Wiggles31]

Wanyama has looked brilliant to me. Ok at Norwich he had a poor game but so did most of the team. Against Sunderland he was one of the best players on the pitch. Osvaldo has shown some very promising signs and will need time to settle in. Lovren looks a massive improvement as well.

 

Still think we could do with one more signing to improve the creativity in the side.

 

And to suggest Le Fondre is either p!ss poor trolling or pure thick.

 

Very very happy with this window so far.

[Convict Colony]

I'm gonna visit the Tottenham forum if they lose this game to Arsenal, this forum will be nothing compared to those dudes.

[Olallana]

I'm gonna visit the Tottenham forum if they lose this game to Arsenal, this forum will be nothing compared to those dudes.

 

And what do you think about the Arsenal forum if the result is the other way around?

[Super_Saint]

And if we didn't sign anyone we'd be ******* moaning about that. We're only 3 games into the season, it's early days yet. Only this place would write off players after one bad game, one bad game!

[Convict Colony]

blatantly not going to happen but the sort of player we need would be kagawa, fast, runs at defence and not a moyes type player - cheeky loan in my dreams

Edited 1 September, 2013 by Convict Colony
spelling for chewy

[Chewy]

You edited the spelling and left moyes as moyles?

[buctootim]

You edited the spelling and left moyes as moyles?

 

Hes right. Theres no way a Moyles type player would be fast and run at defences.

[Convict Colony]

You edited the spelling and left moyes as moyles?

 

didn't get that far, meh !

[Mystic Force]

The thing is Morgan doesn't look the player he did last year either, I think maybe it was that partnership that was the key not the individuals. Plus I dont see how you can play Osvaldo and Rickie together in this combination, as Lambert was not doing the things he normally does and went AWOL for long streches. And do say that its the results of the first 2 games that are important ignores the fact that we only got goals with very late in the game and from set peices. This is a work in progress hopefully they will figure it out soon. But it looks slightly like trying to shoehorn in too many good players instead of constructing a good team.

[lifeintheslowlane]

Could we have this added to the smilies...for all the bed-wetting wrist-slitters who feel the need to post endless new topics on why life is no longer worth living.

[Batman]

arsenal have not made any signings and they look brilliant at the mo

 

we wont be catching them soon lol

[Saints boy in Leeds]

How can you talk about "upsetting the balance" when we're only three games in?

 

And sitting on four points?

 

It mental mate, we didn't exactly finish string at the end of last season either.

[John B]

I feel that this seasons new signings should enhance the team but in general the transfer policy has not been that good apart from Cork and Clyne

 

We have also been lucky that late signings Boruc and Hoovield have been OK but Mayuka De Ridder Lee Fox Gazzinga and Ramierz have not but we are doing OK but a little concerned if Lamberts goals dry up

[andybeal]

Out of the 3, Lovren has had the easiest job of improving the look of the team

[Saints boy in Leeds]

How can you talk about "upsetting the balance" when we're only three games in?

 

And sitting on four points?

 

Its mental mate, we didn't exactly finish string at the end of last season either.

[Saints boy in Leeds]

We've bought in 3 players,

 

Lovren for £8.5m from Lyon,

Wanyama for £12.3m from Celtic,

Osvaldo for £12.9m from AS Roma.

 

Only 1 of these players has actually improved the team, which is the extremely impressive Lovren. Even more pleasing to see was how dissappointed he was with yesterday's result, taking to twitter to say ' I am very dissappointed,' 'I am sure I will not sleep, good night and thank you for your support.'

 

Such a great player, and such a great personality as well.

 

With Wanyama and Osvaldo though, all we seem to done is upset the balance of the team. Morgan and Cork play SO well alongside one another and we've broken that key partnership up for no apparent reason just cause we fancied Wanyama.

 

The same with Osvaldo, we've shoe-horned him in the team to play alongside Lambert, when he'd be better suited to play up-top on his own.

 

We should've bought 1 decent championship DM and 1 decent championship Striker (Le Fondre maybe?) that wouldn't of minded sitting on the bench, playing in Carling Cup games etc. and waiting for the chance if SRL or Cork/Morgan got injured.

 

I also don't understand why we've shoe-horned Chambers and Ward-Prowse in the team, they're not ready for the 1st team in my opinion and we should be playing our best team every time no matter what.

 

LF over Osvaldo, mental. Anyone can see the guy is class, his touch movement is very good, better than anyone else in the team from what I've seen of him.

[S-Clarke]

The fact he's suggesting Le Fondre as an alternative to Osvaldo should be enough to prove he's on a wind up.

[Bearsy]

Anyone can see the guy is class, his touch movement is very good, better than anyone else in the team from what I've seen of him.

 

you mean le fondre or osvaldo?

[slickmick]

Wanyama had a very, very bad game yesterday - there's no denying that. But equally, he was very, very impressive against WBA. He had a bad game, so did Lambert and so did Morgan. It doesn't mean he's a bad player or a bad signing.

 

It was Osvaldo's full debut, and of the very few positives there were yesterday - it was how instinctive he was which impressed me most. Hits it first time, all the time. He will score goals as long as he gets the supply he requires.

 

But agree on Lovren, he's taken our defence to an entirely new level. An absolute class act.

 

Also, what's all the sudden panic about JWP and Chambers suddenly not being good enough? they were more than good enough last week, and the week before. It seems to be that if a young player has 1 bad game, they're not good enough. Well, both of them are good enough and will play a fair few games this year.

 

So, overall, those 3 signings aren't too bad at all really, are they? We do need 1 more though to be honest.

 

Voice of reason.

[Window Cleaner]

arsenal have not made any signings and they look brilliant at the mo

 

we wont be catching them soon lol

 

signed Flamini though.

[Shanghai Saint]

Wanyama had a very, very bad game yesterday - there's no denying that. But equally, he was very, very impressive against WBA. He had a bad game, so did Lambert and so did Morgan. It doesn't mean he's a bad player or a bad signing.

 

It was Osvaldo's full debut, and of the very few positives there were yesterday - it was how instinctive he was which impressed me most. Hits it first time, all the time. He will score goals as long as he gets the supply he requires.

 

But agree on Lovren, he's taken our defence to an entirely new level. An absolute class act.

 

Also, what's all the sudden panic about JWP and Chambers suddenly not being good enough? they were more than good enough last week, and the week before. It seems to be that if a young player has 1 bad game, they're not good enough. Well, both of them are good enough and will play a fair few games this year.

 

So, overall, those 3 signings aren't too bad at all really, are they? We do need 1 more though to be honest.

 

 

Don't buy the comments re Chambers and JWP. Chambers looked slow vs. WBA so what happened vs. Redmond yesterday should have been anticipated and JWP for all his technical skills does not suggest to me that he's going to strike fear into the heart of any defense.

[Window Cleaner]

All will be better once the transfer window shuts tomorrow, no more ins and no more first team outs. Think that there may be a few undecided issus until then.

[alpine_saint]

As has been said, Lovren has had the easiest opportunity to make a positive impact, because our defence was so pants last season.

 

I thought VW looked strong and good at holding the ball in the Villach games; I think he will come good, but I am worried that the Morgan/Cork partnetship was another Claus/Killer moment for us so although getting VW looks good on paper, it actually detracts something fromthe team when he plays. For me, we clearly improved last season when Cork came back from Olympic injury.

 

Osvaldo I know nothing about as a player, but I reckon he has been brought in to enable the team to play in a certain way, which is now being hampered by Rickie's England call up; you cant really drop Rickie, its a prestige thing, but him and Osvaldo cant play together.

 

My feeling is that the signings will come good, but they need to be used juidiciously and apolitically; just because they cost so much money, doesnt mean they should play for the sake of it and disrupt the team. I just hope they dont have "must play" clauses.

 

Ramirez, on the other hand, simply isnt going to work however long we give it...

[Saint Without a Halo]

As has been said, Lovren has had the easiest opportunity to make a positive impact, because our defence was so pants last season.

 

I thought VW looked strong and good at holding the ball in the Villach games; I think he will come good, but I am worried that the Morgan/Cork partnetship was another Claus/Killer moment for us so although getting VW looks good on paper, it actually detracts something fromthe team when he plays. For me, we clearly improved last season when Cork came back from Olympic injury.

 

Osvaldo I know nothing about as a player, but I reckon he has been brought in to enable the team to play in a certain way, which is now being hampered by Rickie's England call up; you cant really drop Rickie, its a prestige thing, but him and Osvaldo cant play together.

 

My feeling is that the signings will come good, but they need to be used juidiciously and apolitically; just because they cost so much money, doesnt mean they should play for the sake of it and disrupt the team. I just hope they dont have "must play" clauses.

 

Ramirez, on the other hand, simply isnt going to work however long we give it...

 

Alps I think you will eat your words re Ramierez just wait and see!

[Barry Sanchez]

As has been said, Lovren has had the easiest opportunity to make a positive impact, because our defence was so pants last season.

 

I thought VW looked strong and good at holding the ball in the Villach games; I think he will come good, but I am worried that the Morgan/Cork partnetship was another Claus/Killer moment for us so although getting VW looks good on paper, it actually detracts something fromthe team when he plays. For me, we clearly improved last season when Cork came back from Olympic injury.

 

Osvaldo I know nothing about as a player, but I reckon he has been brought in to enable the team to play in a certain way, which is now being hampered by Rickie's England call up; you cant really drop Rickie, its a prestige thing, but him and Osvaldo cant play together.

 

My feeling is that the signings will come good, but they need to be used juidiciously and apolitically; just because they cost so much money, doesnt mean they should play for the sake of it and disrupt the team. I just hope they dont have "must play" clauses.

 

Ramirez, on the other hand, simply isnt going to work however long we give it...

 

We could go to the distant future like planet of the apes and Gaston Ramirez would still be **** for us, the only positive from this is the many people saying after a sideways pass made was a "Worldy" by our Gash can now see they were blind and eager for it to work as opposed to the harshness of reality in that he is unfit, uninterestered and quite frankly is only here for the money.

I will raise a glass if bubbly if he departs today and we get a grafter in with a bit of nouce.