The Kraken Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Why have you added a win and taken off defeats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 You sure mate? I make it won 5, D8, l6. 46 points over a season. Yep checked Wins against City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Reading and WBA Losses against Man U, Spurs, Newcastle, QPR, Norwich, WBA Yep; agreed. Kind of puts it in a bit more perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 How much of it MP or key attacking players not turning up and our dependence on them. As much as I like him, Rickie's been poor for months -and we rely on the direct ball to move the ball quickly. AL has struggled for even longer -indeed our dip last season coincided with him returning to the team at the expense of Punch at Newcastle, though he has shown signs of improvement. Jrod has been boom and bust and faces little competition as our one only pacy player. Finally MP inherited the Ramirez problem and nobody's figured out how best to deploy him. It was evident from last season that we were very dependent on the fullbacks for width -and Chambers and Fox for very different reasons are limited backups. With VW and Morgan in the side, there are doubts whether we really need JWP who, setpieces apart (though they were poor yesterday) doesn't offer enough IMO. Didn't do a very good job protecting Chambers yesterday and seemed averse to do much in the final third which is typical of his play. If he's going to start it should be in CM with one of Morgan, VW and Cork. Call me a traditionalist If you like but isn't it the managers job to get the best out of the players available to him? Has he got the best out of Lambert, Ramirez, Lallana? He's been here 8 months now and had half a seasons of games. After a few positive early signs we seem to be going backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Maybe he's been spending too much time learning English and not enough time on the training ground? Guess you can't do it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Our biggest problem is scoring. We have a team of passers who lack incisiveness in the final third, and especially in front of goal. MPs solution has been to send out on loan our only relatively free scoring midfielder. Bizarre. Its the tactics and team selections which are wrong, not the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Cos of why I said! He thinks would be risky to their fitness! But that's my point. In this modern game, only the fit should play. Players whose fitness would be "at risk" should not even travel, let alone be on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Our biggest problem is scoring. We have a team of passers who lack incisiveness in the final third, and especially in front of goal. MPs solution has been to send out on loan our only relatively free scoring midfielder. Bizarre. Its the tactics and team selections which are wrong, not the players. One of the positives I picked up from yesterday was Osvaldo's incisiveness. He literately hits everything first time, always hits a shot and brings out a save. Too many of our players want to take 1 too many touches and they're then crowded out, if Osvaldo can keep up the ''hit first time'' instinct he seems to have, then he will put them in as long as we stretch the play a little in the final third. His 1st time touch, turn and shot was excellent. We haven't got anyone else like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 One of the positives I picked up from yesterday was Osvaldo's incisiveness. He literately hits everything first time, always hits a shot and brings out a save. Too many of our players want to take 1 too many touches and they're then crowded out, if Osvaldo can keep up the ''hit first time'' instinct he seems to have, then he will put them in as long as we stretch the play a little in the final third. His 1st time touch, turn and shot was excellent. We haven't got anyone else like that. Agree Osvaldo is an excellent player who will be massively important for us - as long as he really wants to be here / doesn't disrupt team harmony or punch a team-mate / doesn't have his current style managed or coached out of him. None of these are yet clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 I think MP needs to be ruthless in his team selections if he think ossie should play alone up front, then do it if he thinks ramirez does not need to play, then do it just seems to be giving everyone a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Agree Osvaldo is an excellent player who will be massively important for us - as long as he really wants to be here / doesn't disrupt team harmony or punch a team-mate / doesn't have his current style managed or coached out of him. None of these are yet clear. That's a lot of ifs and buts and hazards for such a fee.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Agree Osvaldo is an excellent player who will be massively important for us - as long as he really wants to be here / doesn't disrupt team harmony or punch a team-mate / doesn't have his current style managed or coached out of him. None of these are yet clear. There are also NO evidence that any assumption of those would be true either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 I think MP needs to be ruthless in his team selections if he think ossie should play alone up front, then do it if he thinks ramirez does not need to play, then do it just seems to be giving everyone a game If he thinks Ramirez justifies a game maybe he could explain why? If he was bought for £300,000 from Rochdale he wouldn't would he? Lets be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 There are also NO evidence that any assumption of those would be true either... Really? Punched Nicola Mingazzini at Bologna and Erik Lamela at Rome, before being forced out of the club. Eight clubs in eight years. Very talented player clearly, a team player who adds to how the 10 other players perform? maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 If he thinks Ramirez justifies a game maybe he could explain why? If he was bought for £300,000 from Rochdale he wouldn't would he? Lets be honest. The fact that Rochdale wouldn't pay 300k for him says it all IMHO. Complete waste of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 I think MP needs to be ruthless in his team selections if he think ossie should play alone up front, then do it if he thinks ramirez does not need to play, then do it just seems to be giving everyone a game Meanwhile everyone questions why he has, perhaps ruthlessly, replaced Cork with Wanyama. He's not making his selections to be polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Meanwhile everyone questions why he has, perhaps ruthlessly, replaced Cork with Wanyama. He's not making his selections to be polite. Ruthlessness isnt the problem, its judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Really? Punched Nicola Mingazzini at Bologna and Erik Lamela at Rome, before being forced out of the club. Eight clubs in eight years. Very talented player clearly, a team player who adds to how the 10 other players perform? maybe not. Lamela incident happened in november 2011. That means they played together after that in 18 months......incidents happen all the time at professional clubs, only a small amount of them gets public knowledge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Lamela incident happened in november 2011. That means they played together after that in 18 months......incidents happen all the time at professional clubs, only a small amount of them gets public knowledge.... By that reasoning Osvaldo has had far more incidents which have been hushed up and haven't made the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 By that reasoning Osvaldo has had far more incidents which have been hushed up and haven't made the news. Or exaggerated in the news? Mingazzini surely thought so... http://www.forza-roma.com/39977/mingazzini-difende-osvaldo-tra-i-due-ci-fu-una-litigata-a-bologna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 I'll wager that he knows better than anybody on here. Don't lie. Clearly certain posters on here are football geniuses. Sign them up! Poch out! SWF in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 But that's my point. In this modern game, only the fit should play. Players whose fitness would be "at risk" should not even travel, let alone be on the bench It's really not difficult...neither Clyne nor Shaw were 100% fit so they didn't start. MP had decided if either Fox or Chambers needed to be subbed yesterday then a half-fit Shaw/Clyne would be a better option than either of our 3rd choice fullbacks. Chambers had a pretty torrid time but will learn from it... Amazing (but not surprising) to see people on here wetting themselves after a W/D/L start to the season - two of which were away. We've got new players in 3 key positions - it takes time to gel. Get a grip you sad ****s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 It's really not difficult...neither Clyne nor Shaw were 100% fit so they didn't start. MP had decided if either Fox or Chambers needed to be subbed yesterday then a half-fit Shaw/Clyne would be a better option than either of our 3rd choice fullbacks. Chambers had a pretty torrid time but will learn from it... Amazing (but not surprising) to see people on here wetting themselves after a W/D/L start to the season - two of which were away. We've got new players in 3 key positions - it takes time to gel. Get a grip you sad ****s. Crazy logic from MP IMHO. So, if a les than a 100% fit Clyne / Shaw end up coming on, and AGGREVATE their suspect fitness/injury, then we would lose them LONGER than if they were allowed to recover 100% fitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Crazy logic from MP IMHO. So, if a les than a 100% fit Clyne / Shaw end up coming on, and AGGREVATE their suspect fitness/injury, then we would lose them LONGER than if they were allowed to recover 100% fitness like everything, its risk/reward we should have had target and god knows on the bench instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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