modern matron Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Sorry miles better than Chambers - let's not get obsessed with playing 18 year olds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 totally agree. Can only put it down to fitness. He did play the full 90 if memory is correct. So best leave him out of this week and i guess he will start the next game. No room for sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughba Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 I've been saying this for ages... Considerably better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Clyne is considerably better than Chambers. Chambers had a torrid time against Redmond today and I reckon Clyne would have done much better against him. Time for Chambers to go back to the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Baffled me unless he isn't quite fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isla Wight Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Agree with all the above. Team selection in general is starting to concern me, coupled with the loan of Puncheon . Out of our new signings, LOVREN has played better consistently . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Must be a fitness thing. I hope we are not trying to crowbar our academy players in for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 I've been saying this for ages... Considerably better. Define 'ages'. Clyne was injured throughout the whole pre-season. Chambers, who had not played a minute of PL football prior to this season, deputised brilliantly in the first two games. Is there any reason to bang the drum when Clyne's absence has been largely circumstantial and Chambers has performed so admirably when called upon? Let the alone the fact that THREE games have been played. No doubt that Clyne will step back into the team when fully match fit but let's not forget he only completed his first 90 minutes on Tuesday. Asking him to do that twice in one week might have been a bit too much after coming back from a reasonable lay-off. Let's not forget Clyne has four years more experience on Chambers and a year of that in the PL. It goes without saying that he is 'considerably better' at this moment in time, but not sure how helpful it is comparing the two in such a reactionary manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Clyne has been fit for a couple of weeks. While we're on the subject, JWP is not a RM, though fortunately MP changed it at halftime. To think that we've dismantled our complete right hand side, that is, Punch and Clyne who had great chemistry is bizarre. The responsibility sits firmly and squarely on MP's shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Pretty sure he will start after the Intl break. He did miss a lot of pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 I've been saying this for ages... Considerably better. Ages? What are you, a mayfly?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 I think there's a bit of a "carrot and stick" approach from Pochettino with Chambers - basically, until today he'd played pretty well, and as the man in possession of the shirt, until he does something to deserve being dropped then he'd keep his place. From a player motivation perspective, it makes sense, otherwise where's the motivation for any player - not just Chambers - to perform if they know that even if they don't put a foot wrong they'll be out of the team as soon as someone else regains fitness after an injury? Redmond gave him a torrid time today, and I was surprised he wasn't taken out of the firing line in the second half when Clyne's pace and greater experience might have prevented the goal. I fully expect Clyne to be back in the side after the international break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonball Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 More importantly. How the F*** can he not get in ahead of Fox? It doesn't seem to be a fitness thing as he looked good last week and played mid week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Chambers has done a great job so far and will be a great player. However with Clyne we have more of an attacking threat. Clyne definitely needs to start the west ham game. Along with shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Agree with all the above. Team selection in general is starting to concern me, coupled with the loan of Puncheon . Out of our new signings, LOVREN has played better consistently . Team selection starting to concern me too. Wanyama's done nothing that makes him look like a better option than Cork. On a positive note, Lovren looks pretty consistent. Too early to say about Osvaldo but he looked totally out of touch with his team mates today. Personally I think he'll be a huge flop but I'd love to be proved wrong. Still wondering why the **** we let Puncheon go. Can only assume MP has someone he considers to be a better option in mind. I think we've got a good side but I'm really not convinced with MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Must be a fitness thing. I hope we are not trying to crowbar our academy players in for the sake of it. This feels like the reason to me. Get our best team possible out there every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 I think there's a bit of a "carrot and stick" approach from Pochettino with Chambers - basically, until today he'd played pretty well, and as the man in possession of the shirt, until he does something to deserve being dropped then he'd keep his place. From a player motivation perspective, it makes sense, otherwise where's the motivation for any player - not just Chambers - to perform if they know that even if they don't put a foot wrong they'll be out of the team as soon as someone else regains fitness after an injury? Redmond gave him a torrid time today, and I was surprised he wasn't taken out of the firing line in the second half when Clyne's pace and greater experience might have prevented the goal. I fully expect Clyne to be back in the side after the international break. Agree - probably the same is true for Fonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Clyne & Punch were good together last season down the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 (edited) Must be a fitness thing. I hope we are not trying to crowbar our academy players in for the sake of it. if you've read the same reports I have........Clyne was injured throughout the pre-season whilst Chambers played the RB role with an exceptional amount of praise from many sources. If Clyne wasn't " 100% fit " and had little / no match practice... then Chambers proved he was a good choice. He did little wrong in the first two games to convince me he was a bad selection. (Last season we used Ward-Prowse at the start of the season in lieu of the absent Jack Cork, and he did better than some others around that time). I expect to see Clyne return in the near future, but IMHO it is no condemnation of Chambers who will deserve a bench place from now on. Clyne is older and more experienced but needs games too. Edited 1 September, 2013 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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