Transfer deadline day thread (Summer 2013)

[VectisSaint]

A few tweets with the #saintsfc hastag suggesting there is a rangerover at staplewood with Lennon as the number plate. I'm sure this is just trolls trying to reel people in, as I doubt that would happen without the skysports reporter camped outside being aware.

 

Its Yoko come to have a love-in with Dani.

[Colinjb]

C'mon Colin. You really telling me there isnt a little part of you, deep down, that doesnt think if it was going to work out with him, we would be seeing signs of it already ?

 

To me his ability is evident, it may not work out, but it's worth trying. If it doesn't work out, as I said in my prior post it's more to do with the manager.

 

In my personal opinion our transfer activity this window cannot be faulted.

Edited 2 September, 2013 by Colinjb

[Saint Charlie]

This is a Deadline Day thread....can we keep it like that?

[wild-saint]

A friend that works for saints and would have some involvement (low level) in deals In / out has been asked to be available this afternoon / this evening in case they are required. No clues as to in or out though.

[Smirking_Saint]

Never surprises me how many mongs stand behind the reporter to get their mugs on the TV, shallow really

[verlaine1979]

Well, we didnt (potentially, mind) waste the best part of 30 big ones...

 

What you're describing is basically Schroedinger's transfer window - until a player has proven himself he is simultaneously both the best player in a club's history and its worst (and all possible gradations inbetween).

[S-Clarke]

Never surprises me how many mongs stand behind the reporter to get their mugs on the TV, shallow really

 

It's usually stoke City as well....

[badgerx16]

Surely the most important thing about this current window is to have locked the youngsters into long term contracts ?

[alpine_saint]

This is a Deadline Day thread....can we keep it like that?

 

You made the big proclamation about the quality of the transfer window, I simply argued it may prove to tbe the opposite. Its too early to tell.

 

-You have no idea how Osvaldo will work out.

-Worst case, we lose Cork and his understanding with Morgan, impossible to be recreated by Morgan and VW.

-We dont replace what Puncheon gives us on the right.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Never surprises me how many mongs stand behind the reporter to get their mugs on the TV, shallow really

 

Was is it you do for fun?

[Colinjb]

You made the big proclamation about the quality of the transfer window, I simply argued it may prove to tbe the opposite. Its too early to tell.

 

-You have no idea how Osvaldo will work out.

-Worst case, we lose Cork and his understanding with Morgan, impossible to be recreated by Morgan and VW.

-We dont replace what Puncheon gives us on the right.

 

And neither do you Alpine, you are just assuming the worst when as you say it's too early to tell.

[Toon Saint]

How can you say that ? Its nonsense.

 

Puncheon has gone. If Cork goes, Gashton stays and VW and Osvaldo dont deliver (still a bit worried that Osvaldo allegeldy turned us down twice), I think its a candidate for our WORST window in history...

 

Your neuroticism is borderline pathological.

 

We have signed three international class players (two which might develop into world-class players,) which in many respects, we had no right to go for.

 

It has been an incredible window far surpassing my initial expectations.

 

If this is a candidate for our worst window ever, what on earth would you describe as our best?

 

P.S. The 'Gashton' thing stopped being funny the moment it left your brain.

[alpine_saint]

What you're describing is basically Schroedinger's transfer window - until a player has proven himself he is simultaneously both the best player in a club's history and its worst (and all possible gradations inbetween).

 

Ahh. a chap on my wavelength, at last....

 

I prefer to abbreviate to "Schroedinger's Tw*t", myself...

Edited 2 September, 2013 by alpine_saint

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

A friend that works for saints and would have some involvement (low level) in deals In / out has been asked to be available this afternoon / this evening in case they are required. No clues as to in or out though.

 

Is she/he the only one who can operate the fax machine?

[alpine_saint]

And neither do you Alpine, you are just assuming the worst when as you say it's too early to tell.

 

Equally as valid as assuming the best, which appears to be what some on here are doing...

[Colinjb]

Equally as valid as assuming the best, which appears to be what some on here are doing...

 

At worst though our squad is still significantly stronger then it was when the window opened.... That is simply a fact.

[Matthew Le God]

Never surprises me how many mongs stand behind the reporter to get their mugs on the TV, shallow really

 

It's usually stoke City as well....

 

[Naboo_thats_who]

A chap at work has told me that we have made an enquiry to Barcelona for Cristian Tello. Not sure where he got his information from but thought i would share. Has anyone else heard him linked? I've never heard of him

[Colinjb]

A chap at work has told me that we have made an enquiry to Barcelona for Cristian Tello. Not sure where he got his information from but thought i would share. Has anyone else heard him linked? I've never heard of him

 

That name has been mentioned on here a few times before. Wouldn't think too much of it.

[Appy]

 

Brilliant, you're so funny.

[alpine_saint]

At worst though our squad is still significantly stronger then it was when the window opened.... That is simply a fact.

 

Squad - Maybe on paper

 

First XI - lost Morgan/Corky understanding, non-functionality up front when playing Rickie, Osvaldo and no J-Rod, no width due to loss of Puncheon. For me the jury is out.

[Olallana]

World Cup a bullsh*t excuse......oh if I get you the number to Blatter, will you call and tell him Alpie??

[S-Clarke]

When did we lose Cork? does anyone have a link at all?

 

cheers.

[Appy]

Squad - Maybe on paper

 

First XI - lost Morgan/Corky understanding, non-functionality up front when playing Rickie, Osvaldo and no J-Rod, no width due to loss of Puncheon. For me the jury is out.

 

Jury is out, although you seem to have already made your verdict.

[Colinjb]

Squad - Maybe on paper

 

First XI - lost Morgan/Corky understanding, non-functionality up front when playing Rickie, Osvaldo and no J-Rod, no width due to loss of Puncheon. For me the jury is out.

 

Just as much as you doubt whether the new guys can step in, there is also no certainty that the existing players would be able to maintain their form either.

 

Much better to have Lovren, Wanyama and Osvaldo supplementing the entire squad we had last season (Punch notwithstanding) ensuring we have greater options.

 

It works both ways mate.

[Chez]

How can you say that ? Its nonsense.

 

Puncheon has gone. If Cork goes, Gashton stays and VW and Osvaldo dont deliver (still a bit worried that Osvaldo allegeldy turned us down twice), I think its a candidate for our WORST window in history...

2008/9 summer window takes some beating:

Lee Holmes

Chris Perry

Paul Wotton

Morgan Schneiderlin

Tommy Forecast

Anthony Pulis

 

although we did manage to get rid of Darren Powell, so not all bad. I guess Morgan's valuation now might compensate for the others.

[david in sweden]

whilst we are waiting for another new signing, give thought to some of those who won't be going anywhere.

 

We still have players like Forte and Barnard on the books who have played very, very few games in the last year, and not likely to have clubs beating down the door to sign them.

 

PLUS the fact that they are still under contract with salaries at a level too high for any L1/L2 side to afford, they are unlikely to be going anywhere...... until their contracts expire, and have even less chance of finding a club when they do finally leave.

[S-Clarke]

....

Sources in Japan seem to believe Saints and 1. FC Nurnberg are in talks over a possible deal for Hiroshi Kiyotake.

It's understood the clubs had agreed a fee earlier in the summer, however talks broke down over the player's reluctance to leave Germany. Now it seems the deal may come back to life. Complications could arise however, due to Kiyotake being away on international duty - so it remains to be seen whether the deal can be completed in time.

[david in sweden]

whilst we are waiting for another new signing, give thought to some of those who won't be going anywhere.

 

We still have players like Forte and Barnard on the books who have played very, very few games in the last year, and not likely to have clubs beating down the door to sign them.

 

PLUS the fact that they are still under contract with salaries at a level too high for any L1/L2 side to afford, they are unlikely to be going anywhere...... until their contracts expire, and have even less chance of finding a club when they do finally leave.

[saint lard]

Mayuka has gone on loan.

 

 

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[Matthew Le God]

Sources in Japan seem to believe Saints and 1. FC Nurnberg are in talks over a possible deal for Hiroshi Kiyotake.

It's understood the clubs had agreed a fee earlier in the summer, however talks broke down over the player's reluctance to leave Germany. Now it seems the deal may come back to life. Complications could arise however, due to Kiyotake being away on international duty - so it remains to be seen whether the deal can be completed in time.

 

Where is that being reported?

[Saint Charlie]

Where's that from Clarke?

 

He is a very good player.

[alpine_saint]

Just as much as you doubt whether the new guys can step in, there is also no certainty that the existing players would be able to maintain their form either.

 

Much better to have Lovren, Wanyama and Osvaldo supplementing the entire squad we had last season (Punch notwithstanding) ensuring we have greater options.

 

It works both ways mate.

 

Dude, thats a weak, weak argument. Its a possibility, but having a proven track record counts for something. VW and Osvaldo have no proven track record in the EPL.

 

You will also note I have not referred to Lovren. for me he is showing signs of settling into an effective CB for us, improving the defence measurably, even if the bar was admittedly already set low.

 

As for the accusation I have reached a verdict, that's b*llsh*t. But at the moment it doesnt look good, and serious work is required on system an player interaction/understanding.

[Colinjb]

Another attacking midfielder.... Can he play out wide?

[S-Clarke]

Where is that being reported?

 

It's on not606 at the mo, just trying to find out where it originated from.

[beavis17]

Mayuka has gone on loan.

 

 

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To..?

[Genk]

Squad - Maybe on paper

 

First XI - lost Morgan/Corky understanding, non-functionality up front when playing Rickie, Osvaldo and no J-Rod, no width due to loss of Puncheon. For me the jury is out.

 

You actually moan about everything. If we hadn't signed anyone you would moan. I love how all of a sudden Cork has gone and Puncheon was integral to our results last season, utterly ridiculous. I trust that the people running the football club know what they are doing. Thank god you aren't in charge from your armchair in Austria.

[Saint Matty 76]

FC Sochaux for the season.

[S-Clarke]

Yep, looks like Mayuka has gone to Sochaux.....

[Bewildered]

Kiyotake would be a great signing, but I would guess being In Japan would make it really hard.

[Colinjb]

Dude, thats a weak, weak argument. Its a possibility, but having a proven track record counts for something. VW and Osvaldo have no proven track record in the EPL.

 

You will also note I have not reffered to Lovren. for me he is showing signs of settling into an effective CB for us, improving the defence measurably, even if the bar was admittedly already set low.

 

As for the accusation I have reached a verdict, that's b*llsh*t. But at the moment it doesnt look good, and serious work is required on system an player interaction/understanding.

 

Sorry Alpine, it's just as strong as yours! Wanyama and Osvaldo do not have Premier League experience, neither have many players who have come to England and excelled... let alone ones who have been key members of sides who have reached the Champions League knock-out stages and played for their country. (In Osvaldo's case the number nine for a country who have won the world cup in the last decade.)

 

On the basis of your argument I take it Ward-Prowse, Chambers, Shaw and any other youngster shouldn't be near the first team as they lack the experience?

[Glasgow_Saint]

....

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2387636/Aston-Villa-need-10m-buy-Hiroshi-Kiyotake.html

[Saint Charlie]

Kiyotake unlikely as they want 10m for him. Can't see us rushing a deal like that on the last day.

[SuperSAINT]

Is the Japanese guy the one with some nifty free kicks?

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Yep, looks like Mayuka has gone to Sochaux.....

 

Christ, that's even more pace we lack now. Must be keeping hold of Jonno Quick.

[DT]

MP obviously doesn't like players who actually run at defenders. Mistake.

 

 

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[alpine_saint]

Sorry Alpine, it's just as strong as yours! Wanyama and Osvaldo do not have Premier League experience, neither have many players who have come to England and excelled... let alone ones who have been key members of sides who have reached the Champions League knock-out stages and played for their country. (In Osvaldo's case the number nine for a country who have won the world cup in the last decade.)

 

On the basis of your argument I take it Ward-Prowse, Chambers, Shaw and any other youngster shouldn't be near the first team as they lack the experience?

 

more weak points.

 

Lots of foreign players come to England and fail to make the grade here.

 

Our youngsters have been developing with the English footballing culture in the background, so more quickly understand how things are when the hit the first team.

[SuperSAINT]

With Punch & Mayuka leaving we must be bringing someone in.

[alpine_saint]

With Punch & Mayuka leaving we must be bringing someone in.

 

Or removing Gasthons blame-avoidance crutches......

[Saint Charlie]

Not sure Mayuka really does run at players. He is quick but seems unsure how to really use it. Needs to work out his game.

 

A season playing more regularly will suit us to see if he is likely to ever make an impact for us.