Transfer deadline day thread (Summer 2013)

[DuncanRG]

I hope that, if we don't bring anyone in today, people still realise that it has been a great window from us. By miles our best ever and IMO would be easily in the top 5 of Prem clubs (relative to club size).

 

Agreed. We'll see how the new, unfamiliar players do at other clubs but in terms of adding quality, keeping the existing group together and moving the excess on professionally I think we've done as well as anyone.

[S-Clarke]

Christmas sucks when you opened all your presents 3 weeks ago.

 

very true

 

Arsenal are like your ''only open presents after dinner'' type of club. They should have a fun evening.

[thorpie the sinner]

If we don't do something stupid like sell cork, I will be chuffed! The three signings made will improve squad imo!

[S-Clarke]

If we don't do something stupid like sell cork, I will be chuffed! The three signings made will improve squad imo!

 

Only thing which is a bit frustrating is the sale of Puncheon, and not bringing in a similar type player. But we should still do better than last year, so progress will be made!

[Bucks Saint]

A winger with pace please. I heard Real beat us to one, drat

[Appy]

Football fans are just like small children, always wanting one more.

 

One more would be nice, but i'm very happy with our business this summer, only gripe would be not replacing the pace and directness of Puncheon.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Football fans are just like small children, always wanting one more.

 

One more would be nice, but i'm very happy with our business this summer, only gripe would be not replacing the pace and directness of Puncheon.

 

Am I the only one that doesn't think Puncheon is quick?

[saint1977]

I hope that, if we don't bring anyone in today, people still realise that it has been a great window from us. By miles our best ever and IMO would be easily in the top 5 of Prem clubs (relative to club size).

 

Oh I agree for the most part, the three players we've signed are of a quality we've not seen since Lawrie's first spell. However, if we are going to play such a narrow system, which does make us quite defensively solid by the way, we need two energetic full backs/wing backs/wide players on both sides as Saturday demonstrated amply. We've got some already - Shaw, Clyne, maybe Isgrove/Mayuka - but with Puncheon going, we need another outlet today who can either push forward as a wing back or a genuine winger. Cresswell from Ipswich from the little I've seen could be a good budget option, especially if Billy moves to Portman Rd as suggested.

[skintsaint]

Am I the only one that doesn't think Puncheon is quick?

 

or direct...

[Appy]

Am I the only one that doesn't think Puncheon is quick?

 

He isn't rapid, but he is quicker than any of the forward thinking midfielders in our team.

[S-Clarke]

Am I the only one that doesn't think Puncheon is quick?

 

He's not massively quick, but he's direct with his running and gives the impression that he's quick..as it opens up space etc. I wouldn't say he's slow though.

[buctootim]

Am I the only one that doesn't think Puncheon is quick?

 

He seems quick because he heads straight to the goal without the scenic route and stop off for a nap approach we've gotten used to.

[DuncanRG]

Nabil Hassan: "Talks/interest re: Billy Sharp have stalled/cooled. Looking more likely to be a loan move unless breakthrough with #SaintsFC can be reached."

[diggs]

Saints said to have pulled out for a deal for Blackpool's Tom Ince last night, according to reports.

[S-Clarke]

Nabil Hassan: "Talks/interest re: Billy Sharp have stalled/cooled. Looking more likely to be a loan move unless breakthrough with #SaintsFC can be reached."

 

We want the buying club to pay his wages in full, they won't, so billy wants us to subsidise what he loses up until the end of his contract with us. We're not prepared to do that, hence stalemate.

 

Money grabbing b.....etc

That's what I've heard anyway.

[Rowan Gorilla 5]

Who needs to go? Martin, Forte, Barnard, Lee and Sharp. Some posters would want Fox and Guly to leave on top of that. Rumours, mutterings at best, of Hooiveld and Mayuka out. Not sure how much money that would bring in really but it would reduce the wage bill by a reasonable amount. Pleased with the 3 players brought in so far but can't help but feel that that the squad is somewhat light in certain areas. It does feel greedy wanting more signings but there are squad numbers not yet allocated which does indicate that there might have been the intention of bringing more players in. What is it, numbers 11, 14, 15, and 19? Would like to see full back cover, a starting centre back to partner Lovren and a couple of pacy attacking midfielders to give the team and squad that added quality and resilience to deal with any injuries.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Saints said to have pulled out for a deal for Blackpool's Tom Ince last night, according to reports.

 

Maybe that's who Sky were expecting and now that's why there will be no deals today? If true, wonder if a deal could be resurrected?

[Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod]

We want the buying club to pay his wages in full, they won't, so billy wants us to subsidise what he loses up until the end of his contract with us. We're not prepared to do that, hence stalemate.

 

Money grabbing b.....etc

That's what I've heard anyway.

 

Seems fair from our end. If a club wants him, they have to pay for him.

[Olallana]

Am I the only one that doesn't think Puncheon is quick?

 

Nope, too much start and stop for me. When he´s already beaten a player he loves to stop and make another dribble so I dont think he trusts his own speed either.

Good player, imo overachieved the first half of last year and we should be thankful for that but not a player if we want to make that next step imo.

[S-Clarke]

Nope, too much start and stop for me. When he´s already beaten a player he loves to stop and make another dribble so I dont think he trusts his own speed either.

Good player, imo overachieved the first half of last year and we should be thankful for that but not a player if we want to make that next step imo.

 

The problem is, now we just.......stop.

[SuperSAINT]

Surprised Aaron Martin hasn't found a club yet.

[itchen_dan]

As far as I'm aware, 1 more IS on their way in. Also passing on that Monk isn't able to post at the moment.

[Olallana]

The problem is, now we just.......stop.

 

Yep Lallana frustrates me too at times

 

Just assuming you mean him....

[melmacian_saint]

Surprised Aaron Martin hasn't found a club yet.

 

His level is L1, where his wages at Saints are still way off their budgets (and this is a guy who signed from the BSS).

 

Also I'd like to see us sort out some of our fringe players. But that seems difficult and it'll probably be done over the loan window.

Edited 2 September, 2013 by melmacian_saint

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

As far as I'm aware, 1 more IS on their way in. Also passing on that Monk isn't able to post at the moment.

 

Is that from Monk?

[S-Clarke]

Surprised Aaron Martin hasn't found a club yet.

 

I don't think he's that good to be honest. Probably not worth what the club would need to pay in wages.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

The problem is, now we just.......stop.

 

That's the problem when you are without overlapping full backs...

[alpine_saint]

I hope that, if we don't bring anyone in today, people still realise that it has been a great window from us. By miles our best ever and IMO would be easily in the top 5 of Prem clubs (relative to club size).

 

How can you say that ? Its nonsense.

 

Puncheon has gone. If Cork goes, Gashton stays and VW and Osvaldo dont deliver (still a bit worried that Osvaldo allegeldy turned us down twice), I think its a candidate for our WORST window in history...

[S-Clarke]

Yep Lallana frustrates me too at times

 

Just assuming you mean him....

 

Spot on, he gets you off your seat initially as he beats a man with great skill but then it just stops and it goes out for a throw in our something. If Lallana had pace and power he wouldn't be here, put it that way. That's the only reason big clubs haven't spoken about him IMO, still a big talent though. Insane technical ability in those boots.

[Naboo_thats_who]

A few tweets with the #saintsfc hastag suggesting there is a rangerover at staplewood with Lennon as the number plate. I'm sure this is just trolls trying to reel people in, as I doubt that would happen without the skysports reporter camped outside being aware.

 

However has anyone been near staplewood who can confirm this is rubbish?

[St.Patrik]

Chris Baird to QPR then....According to SKY

[trousers]

As far as I'm aware, 1 more IS on their way in. Also passing on that Monk isn't able to post at the moment.

 

Cortese locked him in the broom cupboard?

[S-Clarke]

Chris Baird to QPR then....According to SKY

 

Always liked Bairdy when he was here, always have fond memories of that season we just missed out. Don't know why, but maybe deep down I just knew it was the most fun (in terms of winning games) we'd have for a good few years....as it was pretty horrific there on in.

[Plonko]

What about Jonathan Forte? I've heard it said that he's..... errr... quick.

[trousers]

A few tweets with the #saintsfc hastag suggesting there is a rangerover at staplewood with Lennon as the number plate. I'm sure this is just trolls trying to reel people in, as I doubt that would happen without the skysports reporter camped outside being aware.

 

However has anyone been near staplewood who can confirm this is rubbish?

 

Just a SKY news cameraman. He might have spotted such a vehicle arriving. Just a hunch....

[melmacian_saint]

Chris Baird to QPR then....According to SKY

 

Sounds about right. Cashing in before they kick him in admin, and he can move on to play football for more pleasurable reasons than just a pension.

[DuncanRG]

Hope Sharp can secure a move, I'd like to see him back in action again.

[SuperSAINT]

Reports in France claim that Sochaux are ready to move for Southampton striker Emmanuel Mayuka, with Ryad Boudebouz set to join Bastia

[alpine_saint]

Ignore the troll

 

What a mature and dignified response to an expressed opinion.

 

But thanks for quoting, it means all the fingers-in-ears lalala brigade who love to attract attention by posting that they have me on ignore will have seen my post

[S-Clarke]

Reports in France claim that Sochaux are ready to move for Southampton striker Emmanuel Mayuka, with Ryad Boudebouz set to join Bastia

 

He wouldn't be much of a miss to be honest. Doubt he'd get a game here now.

[Colinjb]

How can you say that ? Its nonsense.

 

Puncheon has gone. If Cork goes, Gashton stays and VW and Osvaldo dont deliver (still a bit worried that Osvaldo allegeldy turned us down twice), I think its a candidate for our WORST window in history...

 

Oh for goodness sake. Had Lallana's shot gone a couple of millimeters to the right on Saturday......

[badgerx16]

How can you say that ? Its nonsense.

 

Puncheon has gone. If Cork goes, Gashton stays and VW and Osvaldo dont deliver (still a bit worried that Osvaldo allegeldy turned us down twice), I think its a candidate for our WORST window in history...

 

Nurse, nurse, he's gone again !

[verlaine1979]

How can you say that ? Its nonsense.

 

Puncheon has gone. If Cork goes, Gashton stays and VW and Osvaldo dont deliver (still a bit worried that Osvaldo allegeldy turned us down twice), I think its a candidate for our WORST window in history...

 

If we had some eggs we could have ham and eggs, if we had some ham.

[Golden Balls]

Doesn't make a great deal of sense to let Puncheon go and not replace him. He was clearly part of the first team plans so you'd have thought he'd need replacing.

[melmacian_saint]

He wouldn't be much of a miss to be honest. Doubt he'd get a game here now.

 

Surely a loan move, can't see Sochaux agreeing a fee for him.

His club in Zambia must be loving it with all the development fees coming in.

[alpine_saint]

Oh for goodness sake. Had Lallana's shot gone a couple of millimeters to the right on Saturday......

 

That would have papered over the cracks.

 

Personally, I think it is too early to judge Osvaldo and VW, I was somewhat playing Devils Advocate.

 

But IMO the Ramirez transfer is clearly going to end in tears. He's failed to start a season well now twice, and next summer it will be some other bullsh*t excuse that prevents him doing a proper pre-season.

 

Oh yes, theres a World Cup going on next door to Uruguay...

[Prince Jazzbo]

How can you say that ? Its nonsense.

 

Puncheon has gone. If Cork goes, Gashton stays and VW and Osvaldo dont deliver (still a bit worried that Osvaldo allegeldy turned us down twice), I think its a candidate for our WORST window in history...

 

I would have though that would be 2005 summer window when we only spent £90k on that Jamaican (I've even forgotten his name) and a free from Palace.

[Colinjb]

That would have papered over the cracks.

 

Personally, I think it is too early to judge Osvaldo and VW, I was somewhat playing Devils Advocate.

 

But IMO the Ramirez transfer is clearly going to end in tears. He's failed to start a season well now twice, and next summer it will be some other bullsh*t excuse that prevents him doing a proper pre-season.

 

Oh yes, theres a World Cup going on next door to Uruguay...

 

Sorry Alpine, I think you are being hysterical. I cannot agree. Our squad depth is immeasurably better then this time last year, we have signed three players who have significantly strengthened our first team, kept all of our young talent which in prior years would have been ripe for the plucking and the only disappointment is losing a player who regardless of ability has had a history of erratic behaviour on loan.

 

Any weakness currently would seem to be on the side of the manager who needs to back up the squad we have by getting things right tactically, Poch admitted on Saturday he shouldn't have removed Lallana as early as he did... if any negativity should be present currently it should be directed there, not at our transfer activity.

 

To progress from where we are we will need to invest exponentially more and more in the side for incrementally smaller and smaller levels of improvement. The important thing as fans is not to get too carried away regardless of the clubs big talk.

Edited 2 September, 2013 by Colinjb

[alpine_saint]

Sorry Alpine, I think you are being hysterical. I cannot agree.

 

C'mon Colin. You really telling me there isnt a little part of you, deep down, that doesnt think if it was going to work out with him, we would be seeing signs of it already ?

[alpine_saint]

I would have though that would be 2005 summer window when we only spent £90k on that Jamaican (I've even forgotten his name) and a free from Palace.

 

Well, we didnt (potentially, mind) waste the best part of 30 big ones...