alidiasagent Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Good heavens, what an interesting cross-section of mankind the forum provides. We are a team that has risen from the pit of league 1, signed an impressive set of players with champions league experience, bred a handful of potentially world class youngsters and 3 games into the season are calling for the head of our manager whose barely completed 9 months in the job. Yes that players are adapting to a step up, a new formation and some new partnerships. Yes the players that are outbound, don't meet the newly set standard of our team / ambition. That being said, we've got no pace, Pocheticherino has no idea what he's doing (why hasn't he learned english yet?), Lambert has lost it, Osvaldo disrupts the team, Wanyama is the new Ali Dia (I should know) - we need forte / puncheon up top and billy sharp ahead of our italian international striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 I'm not sure why people are so black and white about people coming back from injury and being on the bench. Perhaps Clyne said that after Barnsley he was ok but feeling it a bit, Shaw likewise. There's never an absolute cut-off when returning from injury unless you are so cautious that you hardly play anyway. It's all about the management of risk and it seems perfectly feasible to have someone on the bench who _ideally_ you would wish to rest but not play unless necessary. As it happened Fox didn't let us down and Chambers (and JWP) were caught out by raw pace and a little inexperience. I'd prefer Clyne but Chambers is a great back-up to have, and he'll have learnt from the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 So....none of our mid table rivals have done anything ground breaking today and I can't think of any similar sides who have done what at this stage what appears to be better business than us this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 West Ham look horrendously short of a striker with the ever injury prone Carroll still out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Liverpool away isn't looking much fun Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 West Ham look horrendously short of a striker with the ever injury prone Carroll still out. Their transfer policy is the most laughable in the League. That, plus Jack Sullivan the 13 year old son of David, tweeting about all their negotiations. They will be looking to get Ba but will end up re-signing Carlton Cole I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 West Ham look horrendously short of a striker with the ever injury prone Carroll still out. Billy Sharp is just the man they need then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Their transfer policy is the most laughable in the League. That, plus Jack Sullivan the 13 year old son of David, tweeting about all their negotiations. They will be looking to get Ba but will end up re-signing Carlton Cole I reckon. Ba is off to Arsenal isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Ba is off to Arsenal isn't he? Apparantly so. Cole it is then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Ba is off to Arsenal isn't he? who knows, everybody is always off to Arsenal but they don't actually sign many players. Once they've paid 42 odd million for Ozil (if he doesn't turn them down again) they'll probably have about enough left for Ba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 So....none of our mid table rivals have done anything ground breaking today and I can't think of any similar sides who have done what at this stage what appears to be better business than us this window. Agree, we have come a long long way in a very short space of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 So looks like nothing today then. I'm a little disappointed that we are weaker on the right now than when the window opened and we have very little pace. We have clearly strengthened well in other areas though like cb which appears to be a great buy. I do think if we fail to strengthen on the right it will haunt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 So looks like nothing today then. I'm a little disappointed that we are weaker on the right now than when the window opened and we have very little pace. We have clearly strengthened well in other areas though like cb which appears to be a great buy. I do think if we fail to strengthen on the right it will haunt us. Would say RB is stronger for the emergence of Chambers, he and Clyne are an excellent set. Further forward, yes we could perhaps use someone who can beat a man....but overall the window has been very, very good. All teams always want "one more". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 West Ham look horrendously short of a striker with the ever injury prone Carroll still out. Getting Quagliarella by the sounds of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 So looks like nothing today then. I'm a little disappointed that we are weaker on the right now than when the window opened and we have very little pace. We have clearly strengthened well in other areas though like cb which appears to be a great buy. I do think if we fail to strengthen on the right it will haunt us. Happy with the overall strength, happy with the right from a first team point of view but I am a little worried that we seem to have no plan B, I was hoping Mayuka would provide pace should we need to change things dramatically. But now its only the unproven Isgrove (who I think is decent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 http://whatbaleearns.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Getting Quagliarella by the sounds of it. WBA also keen I think. Typical WHU signing though, high wages, beyond his best. Similar to Joe Cole, Alou Diarra, Jussi J, Downing, Rat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Sharp deserves his chance in the barclays premier league Today's loan move of Mayuka has me recalling that his signing led to Sharp moving down the pecking order and going out on loan. Could Mayuka's move signal that Sharp is about to be given his long awaited chance? Sharp himself doesn't indicate any moves are imminent and is at home with his wife and son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 How about we sign pacy teenage sensation Lloyd Isgrove on the right for £10m. Would that keep you lot happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Today's loan move of Mayuka has me recalling that his signing led to Sharp moving down the pecking order and going out on loan. Could Mayuka's move signal that Sharp is about to be given his long awaited chance? Sharp himself doesn't indicate any moves are imminent and is at home with his wife and son. Pochettino has said at least 3 or 4 times that he is "not counting on" Sharp and he can find another club. Don't see why that will change. He hasn't been training with the first team etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 So looks like nothing today then. I'm a little disappointed that we are weaker on the right now than when the window opened and we have very little pace. We have clearly strengthened well in other areas though like cb which appears to be a great buy. I do think if we fail to strengthen on the right it will haunt us. Not sure how you can think we are weaker now than before the window opened. Louvren has unquestionably improved the defence. The addition of Wanyama to Cork and Schneiderlin for DM gives us better strength in depth than last season when we had to play S Davis there. Osvaldo didn't get to be Italy's number 9 without having something about him. He's only had about 90 mins for us so far so it's too early to tell whether he'll be a hit or a miss. Of the players leaving Puncheon and Mayuka were only ever going to be bit part players at best. As far as pace goes, it's going to come from speed of thought and speed of passing the ball rather than outright leg speed, as well as the overlapping play of our fullbacks and Isgrove off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Today's loan move of Mayuka has me recalling that his signing led to Sharp moving down the pecking order and going out on loan. Could Mayuka's move signal that Sharp is about to be given his long awaited chance? Sharp himself doesn't indicate any moves are imminent and is at home with his wife and son. Pochettino has said at least 3 or 4 times that he is "not counting on" Sharp and he can find another club. Don't see why that will change. He hasn't been training with the first team etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Today's loan move of Mayuka has me recalling that his signing led to Sharp moving down the pecking order and going out on loan. Could Mayuka's move signal that Sharp is about to be given his long awaited chance? Sharp himself doesn't indicate any moves are imminent and is at home with his wife and son. The club blocked a move to a premiership club for Sharp - get the feeling that Sharp is now making a point. Either let me make my prem move or ill sit out my contract. Fair enough imho he's always wanted to play in the prem so why should he move to the championship or SPL just becuase the club dont want him in the premiership, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 West Ham look horrendously short of a striker with the ever injury prone Carroll still out. He's back for our game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 He's back for our game. It doesn't take away the fact if he gets injured they only have Maiga to replace him, could all change by 11 of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 I'm not sure why people are so black and white about people coming back from injury and being on the bench. Perhaps Clyne said that after Barnsley he was ok but feeling it a bit, Shaw likewise. There's never an absolute cut-off when returning from injury unless you are so cautious that you hardly play anyway. It's all about the management of risk and it seems perfectly feasible to have someone on the bench who _ideally_ you would wish to rest but not play unless necessary. As it happened Fox didn't let us down and Chambers (and JWP) were caught out by raw pace and a little inexperience. I'd prefer Clyne but Chambers is a great back-up to have, and he'll have learnt from the experience. Ah Sue... Cutting through the depressing drivel and WUM's with a sharpened ski pole... I think that's all perfectly reasonable and even likely. Top post. I'm sure Pochettino rates Clyne and Shaw above Chambers and Fox but you have to be able to trust your backup options, or what's the point of them being here? Hence Mayuka on loan for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 It doesn't take away the fact if he gets injured they only have Maiga to replace him, could all change by 11 of course. Good. Hope they sign no one. Can't stand West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 He's back for our game. Still got time for another injury yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Still got time for another injury yet! Or we may put the boot in to further Rickies international career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Good. Hope they sign no one. Can't stand West Ham. This. I dislike them as much as any other team on the prem, probably more actually. I'm sure Gold won't be able to keep it in his pants though. His wallet that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Today's loan move of Mayuka has me recalling that his signing led to Sharp moving down the pecking order and going out on loan. Could Mayuka's move signal that Sharp is about to be given his long awaited chance? Sharp himself doesn't indicate any moves are imminent and is at home with his wife and son. I spoke to billy on twitter last night and he said he's not coming back after that tweet you sent him for not celebrating our result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 My sources are telling me Torres was spotted in Sperrings and Tapatalk is now free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 More likely Jay Spearing spotted in Totton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 The club blocked a move to a premiership club for Sharp - get the feeling that Sharp is now making a point. Either let me make my prem move or ill sit out my contract. Fair enough imho he's always wanted to play in the prem so why should he move to the championship or SPL just becuase the club dont want him in the premiership, I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Would say RB is stronger for the emergence of Chambers, he and Clyne are an excellent set. Further forward, yes we could perhaps use someone who can beat a man....but overall the window has been very, very good. All teams always want "one more". Nah don't agree it's not about having just one more. You could argue we could do with another cb but I'm not too fussed about that. We needed pace since before last summer and certainly someone on the right but luckily punch stepped up last year so it wasn't so obvious. Have now lost him and mayuka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Not sure how you can think we are weaker now than before the window opened. Louvren has unquestionably improved the defence. The addition of Wanyama to Cork and Schneiderlin for DM gives us better strength in depth than last season when we had to play S Davis there. Osvaldo didn't get to be Italy's number 9 without having something about him. He's only had about 90 mins for us so far so it's too early to tell whether he'll be a hit or a miss. Of the players leaving Puncheon and Mayuka were only ever going to be bit part players at best. As far as pace goes, it's going to come from speed of thought and speed of passing the ball rather than outright leg speed, as well as the overlapping play of our fullbacks and Isgrove off the bench. Oh dear. I don't think you read what I said properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 The media team are having fun teasing us on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 My sources are telling me Torres was spotted in Sperrings and Tapatalk is now free. is that the Ivory Coast left Back. Good Player. Would take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 The media team are having fun teasing us on Twitter. please expand, no twitter at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Oh dear. I don't think you read what I said properly. Fair point, I did misread the sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 please expand, no twitter at work Jim Lucas @JFBLucas 10m Been writing an international preview practically all day. Might have to stay late tonight… #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Fair point, I did misread the sentence. no need to apologise, i don't read hypo's posts either* * only jokes xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 no need to apologise, i don't read hypo's posts either* * only jokes xx Ah bearsy you insult with love and that's all I ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 The media team are having fun teasing us on Twitter. Jim Lucas @JFBLucas 20m Appy has big nose #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Jim Lucas @JFBLucas 20m Appy has big nose #saintsfc Jim Lucas @JFBLucas 14m Bearsy likes boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Ah bearsy you insult with love and that's all I ask. yeah sorry it's hard to turn down open goal, I'm not guly! I do read ur posts with great interest always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Jim Lucas @JFBLucas 10m Been writing an international preview practically all day. Might have to stay late tonight… #saintsfc probably shipping more out then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hoff Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Any chance of a summary for the people just in from work? Any credible links for players in? Ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 2 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Any chance of a summary for the people just in from work? Any credible links for players in? Ta None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2013 Share Posted 2 September, 2013 Any chance of a summary for the people just in from work? Any credible links for players in? Ta Zilch, nothing at all. We will not be making any moves. Mayuka has gone, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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