sfc4prem Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Won't be happy if we sell the bloke. Gives us strength in depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Won't be happy if we sell the bloke. Gives us strength in depth This. However if he wants to go what can we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 I guess the 'problem' for Cork is that he's not what you would call an 'impact sub'. So, if he can't get in the starting 11 he's not necessarily going to be a good option off the bench unless we're looking to consolidate a game. So, maybe Cork is more likely to be a sub versus the 'bigger' teams where we'll be happier playing for a draw than vs the likes of Norwich where MP would be expecting a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey88 Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 We might be reading to much into the team selection. If we had a fully fit squad i.e. Shaw and Clyne starting then I'd imagine Cork would have made then bench with one of the full backs dropping out. Would of been very harsh to not include Davis after two goals in mid week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Certainly don't want to see him go. Was great for us last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 too good for saints reserves that's for sure. If you look at prospective teams going for Europe and the best teams then you will see they dont sell their best squad players, why would we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 I wouldn't take any kess than 10m IF he wanted to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 I wouldn't take any kess than 10m IF he wanted to go If this European dream is ever likely (I dont think it will happen) then you dont start selling your best squad players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 He looks happy enough with the squad at Norwich today: [video=youtube_share;H-zUA3Y_Bs0] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Could there be last minute fitness assessments and Jack might be required for the bench. Certainly would be more than gutted if Cork is offloaded. A year ago he was playing for the England set up and ended up injured when we needed him most. Have felt since towards the end of last season Pochettino doesn't see rate him or see him in his long term plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Jack Cork has travelled to Norwich & is with squad despite not being in final 18. We have a squad of more than 18 players, they can't all be involved every week. Typical patronising life-is-a-computer-game response from you. He's now a proven Prem midfielder, he is better than not making the 18 for a club like Saints. If he wants to go I wouldn't blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Typical patronising life-is-a-computer-game response from you. He's now a proven Prem midfielder, he is better than not making the 18 for a club like Saints. If he wants to go I wouldn't blame him. You've taken what I said completely out of context and put your own spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Typical patronising life-is-a-computer-game response from you. He's now a proven Prem midfielder, he is better than not making the 18 for a club like Saints. If he wants to go I wouldn't blame him. We don't like players who go or stay at clubs to just collect wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Typical patronising life-is-a-computer-game response from you. He's now a proven Prem midfielder, he is better than not making the 18 for a club like Saints. If he wants to go I wouldn't blame him. Talking of typical responses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 We have better squad depth now then... well, any other point I can remember! Selling Cork would be nuts. But equally, we let Punch go. This. I wonder if we really have such deep pockets, or if really its going to be "one in, one out". If thats the case, we can forget squad depth and seriously cracking on to win anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Typical patronising life-is-a-computer-game response from you. He's now a proven Prem midfielder, he is better than not making the 18 for a club like Saints. If he wants to go I wouldn't blame him. If he is not in the 18, I wouldnt blame him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 This. I wonder if we really have such deep pockets, or if really its going to be "one in, one out". If thats the case, we can forget squad depth and seriously cracking on to win anything. Big if there ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Talking of typical responses... Do groundhog day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Cork-Spider partnership was arguably the best in the league last year, position for position. Even the media were purring over them when not licking Fergie's arse. Then there was the superb stats. Cannot believe MP has effectively dissolved such an effective force, even if he's not sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Cork-Spider partnership was arguably the best in the league last year, position for position. Even the media were purring over them when not licking Fergie's arse. Then there was the superb stats. Cannot believe MP has effectively dissolved such an effective force, even if he's not sold. Seeing both of them next to each other on the bench at the end - now that was a real WTF moment. Has he tried to fix something that wasn't broken in the slightest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaneNero Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Sell Ramirez, play Cork more. But seriously, Cork needs to be playing more, otherwise he has every right to try force a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 I think what frustrated Pochettino was that Cork was more of a position type player. He's not incredibly pacey and Pochettino probably thinks Wanyama has that about him. The same with the shooting issue. In this case, I think it's more down to manager attribute preferences than tactics or even player quality really. You have to give the leader some freedom for his own tastes I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 If we sell Jack I will be very worried after today's performance. We need him back with Morgan, then work out where VW can fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Cork was my player if the season. It's early, but I am currently struggling to understand why he hasn't started the season alongside Morgan ahead of Wanyama. The Cork Morgan pairing was perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 MP on this rumour http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/10646589.Poch__Saints_denied__blatant__penalty/ Pochettino also poured cold water on reports that midfielder Jack Cork could be on his way to Fulham. “There’s no offer from Fulham,” he said. Asked if he would be willing to sell him, Pochettino responded: “He’s a first-team squad member, he’s a part of this team. If we start selling players we’re only going to be left with just 11 players, so no.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Good news. Madness to sell Cork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 As Wanyama is travelling to Kenya for internationals it will be interesting to see if Cork is selected ahead of him against West Ham given Cork will not have had the travelling etc. I bloody hope so anyway, put the partnership wuth Morgan back together again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 If we sell Jack I will be very worried after today's performance. We need him back with Morgan, then work out where VW can fit. Absolutely this, Spider/Jack partnership was a long way from requiring a fix, needs to be reinstated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Absolutely this, Spider/Jack partnership was a long way from requiring a fix, needs to be reinstated. I agree. But in the manager's eyes it clearly did need fixing, Cork got subbed off in a few games towards the end of the season. It was fairly clear that MP wasn't as enamoured with the partnership as fans were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Sadly, I could see this happening and that would be a huge mistake. £3m!!! If Wanyama is worth £12m then Cork must be worth at least £20m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Only watching MOTD now. Fulham starting with Steve Sidwell centre mid. Think Jack could claim that spot pretty easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 I agree. But in the manager's eyes it clearly did need fixing, Cork got subbed off in a few games towards the end of the season. It was fairly clear that MP wasn't as enamoured with the partnership as fans were. he took him off in the WBA game at the en of last season and although we weren't playing well before it, after the swap we went to pot. We became so open and ragged it's not true. Terrible decision on the day if you ask me. Bringing back Cork won't solve all problems, it might not solve any, but if there was one area of the park we didn't need to change it was CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 (edited) he took him off in the WBA game at the en of last season and although we weren't playing well before it, after the swap we went to pot. We became so open and ragged it's not true. Terrible decision on the day if you ask me. Bringing back Cork won't solve all problems, it might not solve any, but if there was one area of the park we didn't need to change it was CM. We were chasing the game -and decided to bring on another attacker. It wasn't a like for like substitution but a calculated gamble which didnt pay off but was reasonable enough. In fact, we were probably more ragged while Cork was on the pitch. We were certainly cut open more times in the first half. Edited 1 September, 2013 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 If thats the case, we can forget squad depth and seriously cracking on to win anything. This is now the territory we are in. We now have excellent competition for most places in the side. This is where the manager really needs to excel. Keeping everyone happy/hungry/ready is a skill that the likes of Fergie/Wenger really mastered the art of. It will be interesting to see how Pochettino handles this. Cork losing his starting place is real test of his character too. Morgan doesn't look as effective without his wingman either. Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-transfer-news-fulham-eyeing-2240075? Amazing !..another non-story coming out of one of the " funny papers ". There was no response form either named club and MP said that there was no bid in for Jack Cork and that he was a member of the squad we didn't want to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Amazing !..another non-story coming out of one of the " funny papers ". There was no response form either named club and MP said that there was no bid in for Jack Cork and that he was a member of the squad we didn't want to lose. I doubt it was a non-story. Would be very surprised if Clubs haven't at least inquired, a key player for us last year and seemingly reverted to just a member of the 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Anyone got the stats of how we got on in the PL with those 2 playing alongside each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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