Graffito Posted 30 August, 2013 Share Posted 30 August, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-transfer-news-fulham-eyeing-2240075? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 August, 2013 Share Posted 30 August, 2013 Not surprised there is interest but we would be mad to sell as would need a replacement lined up. Would say he is worth at least 5-6m as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 30 August, 2013 Share Posted 30 August, 2013 We'd be foolish to let him go. Morgan-Wanyama-Cork is a fantastic combination to call on in central midfield. (Not forgetting JWP and Davis...) Can't see this happening but stranger things have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 30 August, 2013 Share Posted 30 August, 2013 Even if Cork is not first choice any more, it is vital we keep him as he is the only real cover for Wanyama. Davis & JWP etc can technically play there but are nowhere near as good defensively as Cork so by bringing in Wanyama and selling Cork really the squad would not really be any better off as we'd still lack proper back up at DM. £3m is a **** take too, he is worth double that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 30 August, 2013 Share Posted 30 August, 2013 "The club’s new midfielder Victor Wanyama is currently ahead of Cork, yet Saints have made it clear to Fulham they do not want to do business." I suspect our Chairman won't sell Cork for a derisory £3m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 30 August, 2013 Share Posted 30 August, 2013 That said, wasn't it John Cross that broke the Adkins / Pochettino story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Bid is actually £6m+ apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 We have better squad depth now then... well, any other point I can remember! Selling Cork would be nuts. But equally, we let Punch go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 They can treble that and it should still be a no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 He's 24 and was part of an extremely effective premier league midfield duo last season. He's going nowhere and that price is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 That said, wasn't it John Cross that broke the Adkins / Pochettino story? Depends what you mean by 'broke'. It was first reported on a Spanish website a week before it first appeared in the British media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Depends what you mean by 'broke'. It was first reported on a Spanish website a week before it first appeared in the British media. It cracks me up when people say this - if it was so much out in the open how come it wasn't once reported on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 We have better squad depth now then... well, any other point I can remember! Selling Cork would be nuts. But equally, we let Punch go. Cork is a lot more important to us than Puncheon was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 It cracks me up when people say this - if it was so much out in the open how come it wasn't once reported on here? Presumably because the Spanish reporter had a source and nobody in Britain did until later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 31 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 31 August, 2013 It cracks me up when people say this - if it was so much out in the open how come it wasn't once reported on here? It definitely was reported on here. The story appeared first on the website of a regional Spanish tv station but it didn't seem credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Who cares who broke what news...the story is a bid has been made...so what! We'd be mad to even listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 He's 24 and was part of an extremely effective premier league midfield duo last season. He's going nowhere and that price is a joke. ...and now he's not first choice. He might ask to go "for personal reasons". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 ...and now he's not first choice. He might ask to go "for personal reasons". Whatever happened to fighting for your place? 2 games out if the side, it'd be a sad indictment of the game now if that meant he needed to move on for personal reasons (unless Poch has told him there will be minimal game time this season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Whatever happened to fighting for your place? 2 games out if the side' date=' it'd be a sad indictment of the game now if that meant he needed to move on for personal reasons (unless Poch has told him there will be minimal game time this season).[/quote'] Not really. We decided to replace him with 12m worth of better player. If we think we can do better, why isn't Jack allowed to think he can do better? I don't think he will go, but you can't just expect players to have to just suck it up on our terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Not really. We decided to replace him with 12m worth of better player. If we think we can do better, why isn't Jack allowed to think he can do better? I don't think he will go, but you can't just expect players to have to just suck it up on our terms. I don't think he does simply have to accept our terms but maybe give it more than 2 games. It may be that the manager subsequently decides Cork is a better player than the 12m man over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Whatever happened to fighting for your place? 2 games out if the side' date=' it'd be a sad indictment of the game now if that meant he needed to move on for personal reasons (unless Poch has told him there will be minimal game time this season).[/quote'] Surely it's better that he wants to go and play first team football rather than collect his money while sat on the bench? As expected, the idea of the 3 CMs being regularly rotated as suggested by some on here looks pretty unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Surely it's better that he wants to go and play first team football rather than collect his money while sat on the bench? As expected, the idea of the 3 CMs being regularly rotated as suggested by some on here looks pretty unlikely. Well we have had to rotate the 3 CM and we're only two games into the season. Morgan's already picked up a knock - only that JWP was preferred to Cork (and perhaps that's because he was on the pitch and MP didn't have to waste a sub on another holding player when we were chasing the game). All I know its going to be a long old season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 We should definitely tell Fulham to 'shove it'. The one point that no one has mentioned in this thread though, is IF Cork is attracted to the move, and the prospect of being regular first choice at Fulham. That might give a little more possibility to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 ...and now he's not first choice. He might ask to go "for personal reasons". What guarantees has he got that he'l be first choice at Fulham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Well we have had to rotate the 3 CM and we're only two games into the season. Morgan's already picked up a knock - only that JWP was preferred to Cork (and perhaps that's because he was on the pitch and MP didn't have to waste a sub on another holding player when we were chasing the game). All I know its going to be a long old season. That's not 'rotating' players, it's covering for injuries and as you say yourself, Cork didn't even get on then which must be making him think how much playing time he'll be getting this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 I guess a lot depends on what our plans for his contract are. His is up at the end of next season and if we don't offer a new one or he doesn't want to sign then his value will start to decrease soon. If, and its a big if, we weren't likely to offer him another one, then we might consider selling at a good price, although its unlikely because we would surely need to replace him. However, perhaps we feel JWP could mature into being effective in that deeper role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Just glad Olallana isnt in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 What guarantees has he got that he'l be first choice at Fulham? How the hell do I know? He probably wouldn't want to go without something suggesting he will play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Just glad Olallana isnt in charge Let´s see what happens if the bid touch close to the £7-8m I was talking about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Let´s see what happens if the bid touch close to the £7-8m I was talking about... Bid is actually £6m+ apparently. yet Saints have made it clear to Fulham they do not want to do business Just glad Olallana isnt in charge ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Just glad Olallana isnt in charge ;) Are you saying saintbob is the new itk? What happened to your status as that, people understood you are just full of Barry Sanchez initials?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Top clubs do not stay top clubs by having a first 11 and 11 reserves. We need Cork and he will get time on the pitch over the season as injuries and suspensions occur and as different combinations are used to win particular games. Even today, he could start the side at Norwich if Schneiderlin's injury hasn't cleared up. With the club's stated aim of European competition, the whole squad is important, not a 'first choice' 11. In my opinion it's not a matter of how much Fulham might offer, because Jack Cork's value to Southampton is as a player, not as a way of putting money in the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Anyone go to Barnsley? How did Cork look over the 90 alongside Davis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 It cracks me up when people say this - if it was so much out in the open how come it wasn't once reported on here? And how even on the day it happened it was still dismissed as bulls*it from lying scumbag journos by the usual suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Surely it's better that he wants to go and play first team football rather than collect his money while sat on the bench? As expected, the idea of the 3 CMs being regularly rotated as suggested by some on here looks pretty unlikely. Hilariously if he were to do that the very same people that slag off the likes of Scott Sinclair and jack Rodwelll as being money grabbing w*nkers will be lauding Cork for showing loyalty to us. On that note funny how no one has had a pop at billy Sharp or Lee Barnard for not taking a pay cut to play first team football at a lower level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 It's far too early to asses whether Cork is not an automatic choice to start games. We need a few games under the belt trying different combinations in midfield. Last season Jack and Schneiders had top midfield stats playing together, let's not forget. We haven't seen VW and Cork playing together yet. And not forgetting JWP. We also need alternative playing strategies for times when the oppositions learn how best to counter our current tactics. It is all work in progress. I would like to see midfield styles with different formations rotated more, according to who we are playing against. We can always revert to plan A during matches if it is not working. Each of the midfielders have different qualities. Meanwhile Jack needs to be reassured that he is very much part of our playing options. When is the next cup game? Then if not sooner would be a good time to try out different midfield systems. We would be substantially weakened without Cork in the squad. Don't forget all players can drift in and out of form from time to time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Surely it's better that he wants to go and play first team football rather than collect his money while sat on the bench? As expected, the idea of the 3 CMs being regularly rotated as suggested by some on here looks pretty unlikely. How can you come to that conclusion only three games into the season? Especially when Cork has started in one of them? Why would Cork be more likely to get more starts at Fulham, who have already signed 2 other players in his position this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Hilariously if he were to do that the very same people that slag off the likes of Scott Sinclair and jack Rodwelll as being money grabbing w*nkers will be lauding Cork for showing loyalty to us. On that note funny how no one has had a pop at billy Sharp or Lee Barnard for not taking a pay cut to play first team football at a lower level. I think people more have a problem with Sinclair and Rodwell are more viewed as money grabbers, because they joined a Man City side where they were clearly not going to be first choice players and were being bought in as squad players and too boost Man City's quota of homegrown players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Just out of interest though, what do people think would be an acceptable price for Cork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Just out of interest though, what do people think would be an acceptable price for Cork? If any carroll is worth £35 million then Cork is worth at least £20m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 We need to keep Cork. Wanyama is going to pick up cards and injuries, he doesn't hold back. We need quality competition and cover and it's a long season, especially with a cup run thrown in. Cork doesn't seem the sort of player to run and take the easy option at the first chance, so I hope he isn't interested and wants to fight for his place. I wouldn't see that as choosing money over football, I'd see that as not taking the easy option. If he were third choice for the position he and Wanyama are competing for it would be different, but he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Sky reporting spider is a doubt for today.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 But Carroll isn't worth £35 million is he? We all know that so why people spout the same old BS all the time annoys the **** out of me. I would say £8-£10 million personally for Jack Cork and I would not be too disappointed although I agree that we should not sell him unless he really wants to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 But Carroll isn't worth £35 million is he? We all know that so why people spout the same old BS all the time annoys the **** out of me. I would say £8-£10 million personally for Jack Cork and I would not be too disappointed although I agree that we should not sell him unless he really wants to go. Let's say we get £10m and then next week, Wanyama gets injured. How good would that £10m seem then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Just going back to the original report, they've "had one bid for Cork turned down in the last 48 hours but wants to go back with around £3million" So how much did they bid the first time round? Heard the word derisory mentioned against a few bids this summer, a sub £3m bid for a guy who was a key starter in a Premier League side last season is taking the biscuit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 No Cork in the 18 today... Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Bye bye Jack (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Will be utterly pointless to sell him. We've finally got a squad in the middle of the park, so let's start selling...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 Jack Cork has travelled to Norwich & is with squad despite not being in final 18. We have a squad of more than 18 players, they can't all be involved every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 31 August, 2013 Share Posted 31 August, 2013 A bit of a worry that he isn't in the 18 for today. Won't be happy if we sell him, unless we bring better in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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