Saint-Armstrong Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Will he play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 bloody fantastic for Rickie and yes he has every chance of playing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 there is a first Under-21 call-up for midfielder James Ward-Prowse after his impressive early-season performances for Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Is it really an achievement to be selected to a squad when Jermaine f***in Defoe is selected too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 No Itll be Welbeck, Sturridge and Rooney Hopefully he can come off the bench and be a nuissance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Well good man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I said to the lads at work when he got named as a sub for the Scotland game, he will come off the bench and get the winner, wish I had a punt on that wonder what odds I would get for that to happen this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I said to the lads at work when he got named as a sub for the Scotland game, he will come off the bench and get the winner, wish I had a punt on that wonder what odds I would get for that to happen this time. I had Lambert to score at any time.... Won £160 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 So happy that he's been picked but it doesn't matter who gets picked for me as most of the squad are just not interested in playing for their country, we will be ripped apart in Brazil. That's if we make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 You really have to wonder what Defoe does to get in the squad. As well as Ashley Young. I'd rather have Puncheon over Young :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Ashley Young has been rubbish for ages and still gets into the squad. For me Defoe does well when he plays for England though should he be there on Spurs form and you have to say no. Until we get a brave manager prepared to rip up the form book on who gets picked then I fear we will never see a successful England team. RL is there on merit which is more than can be said for the majority of the squad picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 If you played players purely on club form and not look at international squad integration you would have a team that could not play to the current England system nor would play effectively as a team. That is why the bulk will rarely change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Pleased for Rickie, pleased for JWP, Luke and Calum. I do not wish injury upon any Liverpool or Manchester United forwards in the next week or two but if they did pick up a niggling ankle injury or muscle strain in training then I would be delighted to see Rickie get on the pitch in a World Cup match to further stake his claim to go to Rio. Rickie in Rio is beyond Roy of the Rovers and Escape to Victory....it would almost require a long running West End musical written by Lloyd-Webber if we ended up by some miracle winning it and Rickie scored the winning penalty in the shoot-out v Brazil and turns away joyously lifting his England shirt to reveal a "I did it for Saints" message on his Saints shirt ..:-) And then i woke up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 If you played players purely on club form and not look at international squad integration you would have a team that could not play to the current England system nor would play effectively as a team. That is why the bulk will rarely change I agree with you to an extent but but this could also be our downfall as 99pc of fans could pick the team before its announced. I say let work now with the youngsters to build now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I had Lambert to score at any time.... Won £160 :) I had a fiver on SRL to score the last goal @ 5/1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylambert Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Ross Barkley called up also. He's 19; will Shaw be there next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Anytime scorer bets are void if the player doesn't start the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Don't get excited yet, this is a big squad, and will get thinned after the next lot of matches, bound to be withdrawals etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I agree with you to an extent but but this could also be our downfall as 99pc of fans could pick the team before its announced. I say let work now with the youngsters to build now. Well it is what it is, its not necessarily just opinion, you need to bare in mind for an international coach you get little time to work on the players so you pick players used to playing together already, i.e from teams with majority of able players. Also you need to pick players that fit the syatem etc FWIW I agree, after this WC we should concentrate on building a team for the next one and so have a transitional period. But its hard as when getting young players experience (walcott, Ox, Cleverley, Welbeck etc) fans will bemoan his picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Absolutey delighted for Rickie, hopefully he will start and score a few against Moldova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Would have been incredibly cruel if he hadn't been in squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Ross Barkley called up also. He's 19; will Shaw be there next season? Prowsey has played more senior games than him I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanW Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Pleased for Rickie, pleased for JWP, Luke and Calum. I do not wish injury upon any Liverpool or Manchester United forwards in the next week or two but if they did pick up a niggling ankle injury or muscle strain in training then I would be delighted to see Rickie get on the pitch in a World Cup match to further stake his claim to go to Rio. Rickie in Rio is beyond Roy of the Rovers and Escape to Victory....it would almost require a long running West End musical written by Lloyd-Webber if we ended up by some miracle winning it and Rickie scored the winning penalty in the shoot-out v Brazil and turns away joyously lifting his England shirt to reveal a "I did it for Saints" message on his Saints shirt ..:-) And then i woke up. Well said. I think it'd be great if he played but I only want him to play on merit. Injuries are no fun, but of course if you get your chance because of injury I hope you seize on the opportunity. Congrats to Rickie and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I'm hoping to find out if Rickie still used to work in a betroot factory. I will listen to Talksport on the way home + let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 No-one has ever said that. Always gets twisted but the suggestion has always been giving people a chance based on form, not picking an entire first XI based on it. Always the extreme responses that limit any real conversation. I don't think a good England player should be left out if they're struggling with their club for a bit. The key should be whether they're playing well for England, fully fit etc. Form should just get you a decent chance to establish yourself, but even then it should come down to England performances, team integration etc. But that's all just common sense. Sadly lacking common sense too often. You talk of players integrating into the england system, yet for years we've picked players who don't, trying to squeeze in names that just don't fit together. You need the balls to leave out big names at that level, and no manager has. Leaving us completely wasting Scholes, limiting Lampard or Gerrard, and generally looking a complete mess in midfield. You can see why the u21s struggle too. Look at Barkley, he's got some potential and would be great for a year or two in the u21s, but he's rushed through to the full squad. I don't think the likes of Spain do this as much, u21 level is taken more seriously. england have had plenty of good u21 players the last few years, yet they're very rarely in the side. perhaps a young team experienced at international football and more used to success would be a good thing? would have thought ward-prowse, rodwell and barkley could form a really good midfield for the u21s. Agree with all this Adrian, your exactly right. Potentially we have another very very promising midfield coming through (again a lack of decent wide men or strikers though) and I fully expect the powers that be too conpletely waste them. You dont see Spain try to press gang players into the side even if the dont fit the system which is basically what we tried to do with Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes, those three are easily up there with the best midfielders England have ever had and we wasted them. But yes, Spain/Germany build teams through U19s and U21s, gelling them, giving them tournament exp and getting them used to playing together. Too often we break down these teams too quickly and whats worse allow players to decide they dont want to play for England at any age group other than senior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbrennan Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Anytime scorer bets are void if the player doesn't start the game... No they are not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Can't see him getting on unless we need a late goal and decide to go long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berudenot2 Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Can't wait to see SRL score and lift up his shirt to reveal " For all the beetroot lovers " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 ashley young??? guess when you warm uniteds bench and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpankBoy Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 ashley young??? guess when you warm uniteds bench and all that They have heated seats I think, so he is not even capable of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 ashley young getting called up is a joke. hardly ever plays for united or england. hardly vital to either team been very poor for england when has played absolutely nothing to offer now. just proves that playing for united means a foot in the england camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 ashley young getting called up is a joke. hardly ever plays for united or england. hardly vital to either team been very poor for england when has played absolutely nothing to offer now. just proves that playing for united means a foot in the england camp I dont get why he is there, but then I tried to think of the alternatives, and that scared me a little. I assume that he is there as he is a quick option off the bench and knows the set up. But all in all I agree that he is massively overrated IMO. Didnt he cost 30m or something nearly as rediculous ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I dont get why he is there, but then I tried to think of the alternatives, and that scared me a little. I assume that he is there as he is a quick option off the bench and knows the set up. But all in all I agree that he is massively overrated IMO. Didnt he cost 30m or something nearly as rediculous ? agbonlahor, very very quick, in some sort of form (miles more than young) this season and 2nd half of last. can play across the front line but, does not play for man u young could play 100% better than he does now (ie, play a full 90 mins) for norwich and would never get a sniff on that form alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 agbonlahor, very very quick, in some sort of form (miles more than young) this season and 2nd half of last. can play across the front line but, does not play for man u young could play 100% better than he does now (ie, play a full 90 mins) for norwich and would never get a sniff on that form alone Part of it has to do with playing alongside other England players, and knowing the system etc its not just 'Man Utd' per se. If WHU had 5-6 English players that were good enough for the int team they would be 'popular' but ignoring that part of the arguement I agree that Young is tosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Excellent News! Well done Rickie. I think Rickie left a very good impression of himself on the England camp, I think he arrived and opened a window to let some stale air oot. Roy & Gary both could not speak highly enough of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I have tickets so praying like crazy he get a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 If you played players purely on club form and not look at international squad integration you would have a team that could not play to the current England system nor would play effectively as a team. That is why the bulk will rarely change International players are supposed to be consistently good at club level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Can't wait to see SRL score and lift up his shirt to reveal " For all the beetroot lovers " Which will be the marketing blurb for next season's all purple home shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 basically, if rickie is dropped constantly or is poor this season, it should not matter as long as he does well for england? bet it wont work out like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Which will be the marketing blurb for next season's all purple home shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 agbonlahor, very very quick, in some sort of form (miles more than young) this season and 2nd half of last. can play across the front line but, does not play for man u young could play 100% better than he does now (ie, play a full 90 mins) for norwich and would never get a sniff on that form alone Didn't Young first get called up when he was at Villa? 7 goals at international level is pretty decent for a winger. Doesn't deserve the call up right now, but he definitely has the ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Rooney has been ruled out of both matches so Rickie should get some decent playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Sturridge also injured now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 On the good side, Rickie's chances of starting/coming on are improving big-time. On the bad side, the injuries to starters are really mounting and the chances of England getting beaten are rising with them. The fickle media who were singing his praises two weeks ago could be cutting him and everyone else to ribbons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 1 September, 2013 Share Posted 1 September, 2013 Lambert and Welbeck with Walcott would still be a good attack. Just hope he doesn't go for Defoe. That's the sort of decision I'd expect from Hodgson to be fair. Doesn't seem one for bold decisions, everything very safe, cautious etc. To be fair though, Defoe has more goals so far this season (albeit against a pub side) and Rickie hasn't look that dangerous in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Henry Winter @henrywinter 3m No Defoe, Caulker, Wilshere, Sturridge at #eng training Looks like Lambert might be carrying the hopes of the Nation in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Henry Winter @henrywinter 3m No Defoe, Caulker, Wilshere, Sturridge at #eng training Looks like Lambert might be carrying the hopes of the Nation in the next few days. Did Sturridge get injured training with England? How badly? (he's in my fantasy team!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Did Sturridge get injured training with England? How badly? (he's in my fantasy team!) Sturridge was injured in the Liverpool game at the weekend, was always pretty doubtful for the england games after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Sturridge was injured in the Liverpool game at the weekend, was always pretty doubtful for the england games after that. Blimey. I watched the game with half an eye and he finished it, right? Didn't seem injured. Oh well, boosts Rickie Lambert's chances, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Sturridge will play Friday. Just because they are not training today doesn't mean they won't train sometime this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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