Dazza82 Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 We have been linked with a move for Pablo Piatti from valencia can play on the left or right or even as a forward. Seems like the kind of player we would be looking at. http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/424014/Premier-League-interest-in-Everton-and-Celtic-target-Pablo-Piatti-confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 We have been linked with a move for Pablo Piatti from valencia can play on the left or right or even as a forward. Seems like the kind of player we would be looking at. http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/424014/Premier-League-interest-in-Everton-and-Celtic-target-Pablo-Piatti-confirmed Was he linked in a different paper? That Express article does not mention us once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 25 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 25 August, 2013 http://www.mercato365.com/etranger/angleterre/southampton-pochettino-veut-p-piatti-1053767.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 "Pablo Daniel Piatti (born 31 March 1989 in Ucacha, Córdoba) is an Argentine professional footballer who plays for Valencia CF in Spain. He operates mainly as a left or right winger, but can also play as a second striker or a forward." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 is he quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert1979 Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Is he johnno quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 "Pablo Daniel Piatti (born 31 March 1989 in Ucacha, Córdoba) is an Argentine professional footballer who plays for Valencia CF in Spain. He operates mainly as a left or right winger, but can also play as a second striker or a forward." Definitely not suited to our system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Definitely not suited to our system Exactly, we don't play wingers and never should! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Another Pablo Daniel, where have we heard that before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Can he defend corners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Still think we need one more tbh. I know it's early days and our new boys haven't gelled, but we need to be able to move the ball quicker and I think we need to exploit counter attack opportunities with more direct (not necessarily route one) balls at times. We don't score enough goals by playing defence splitting balls for attackers to run onto. We always seem to go for the wide option and look to hit hopeful crosses into the box. This might be because of the idiot behind me in the Northam who never stops shouting "Go wide!" though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Ill say it before anyone else says it. Is he young, hungry and guaranteed to improve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Used to be good on FM. Very Pablo Aimar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Can he defend corners? or....can he stand by a post for corners ....without bring told ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 or....can he stand by a post for corners ....without bring told ? We went 0-1 down to the smallest Sunderland player heading in with both posts undefended. We then failed to have anyone on the posts for every Sunderland corner after that. Perhaps it's the new way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 We went 0-1 down to the smallest Sunderland player heading in with both posts undefended. We then failed to have anyone on the posts for every Sunderland corner after that. Perhaps it's the new way? Norm, maybe they've figured out it's unnecessary.... because Boruc has arms that are 8 feet long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 25 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Suppose id better put youtube video on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 He's only 5ft 4 - too small for the premier league I think If we're going to sign a player of that type we should go for Manuel Lanzini from River Plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 He's only 5ft 4 - too small for the premier league I think If we're going to sign a player of that type we should go for Manuel Lanzini from River Plate Dyer, Lennon, Tevez, Hernandez, BWP etc See a theme emerging? You don't need to be tall to play off the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 We went 0-1 down to the smallest Sunderland player heading in with both posts undefended. We then failed to have anyone on the posts for every Sunderland corner after that. Perhaps it's the new way? Citeh had a bloke on the post today, didn't make one iota of difference when Campbell scored fron a corner. What we should be looking at is the failure of the 3 kids to pick up their man systematically at corners. Perhaps it's something that comes with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 There seem to be two possibilities: 1) it's long been noted that marking posts leaves two defenders wasted not marking or attacking the ball. The few times they clear it off the line don't make up for the increased number of times the opposition will win the header. Man mark properly and you out number the attackers and have a keeper to get the ball. Not perfect, but by far the best system and most accountable. The man on the post thing is just very lazy punditry. 2) fans on football forums have noticed a brilliant defensive tactic that countless top level managers and coaches across the world have failed to spot. Or to be more accurate 3) Some clubs do it (including Man City today at times, including for Cardiff's 3rd goal), some don't and its a question of individual teams' tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 There seem to be two possibilities: 1) it's long been noted that marking posts leaves two defenders wasted not marking or attacking the ball. The few times they clear it off the line don't make up for the increased number of times the opposition will win the header. Man mark properly and you out number the attackers and have a keeper to get the ball. Not perfect, but by far the best system and most accountable. The man on the post thing is just very lazy punditry. 2) fans on football forums have noticed a brilliant defensive tactic that countless top level managers and coaches across the world have failed to spot. I'm delighted with any praise but esp' from you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Spreading a bit... http://www.todomercadoweb.es/mercado-futbolistico/valencia-pochettino-quiere-a-piatti-para-el-southampton-55063 Again Mauricio Pochettino Valencia look closely when planning the Southampton market. After the unrealized interest in Victor Ruiz, former Espanyol have placed in their sights, according to People, Pablo Piatti. The end outside Miroslav Djukic plans this season, came close to committing to Rennes or PAOK. The Greek club awaits his eventual qualification for the group stage of the Champions League to finalize a deal. The Southampton while working to anticipate. For three and a half million euros could be closed recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 I know absolutely sod all about the guy but For €3.5m euros, I'd take him as another winger to add to the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2401892/Southampton-interested-signing-Valencia-winger-Pablo-Piatti-season-long-loan.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 I hope this isn't true. I was on holiday in Valencia visiting friends and went to see them play against Seville. He was awful, missed 2 open goals, gave away a penalty and got sent off. The Valencia fans call him the Argentine Micheal Gilkes. One to be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Someone fire up the Monk signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 I hope this isn't true. I was on holiday in Valencia visiting friends and went to see them play against Seville. He was awful, missed 2 open goals, gave away a penalty and got sent off. The Valencia fans call him the Argentine Micheal Gilkes. One to be avoided. Maybe, but he has very good taste in clothing. That alone should warrant us signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 I know absolutely sod all about the guy but For €3.5m euros, I'd take him as another winger to add to the group. I thought we only bought players that were an improvement on our first 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 I know absolutely sod all about the guy but For €3.5m euros, I'd take him as another winger to add to the group. I thought we only bought players that were an improvement on our first 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Maybe, but he has very good taste in clothing. That alone should warrant us signing him. At 5 foot 4 the only clobber he'll be getting will come from Mammas and Pappas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 I hope this isn't true. I was on holiday in Valencia visiting friends and went to see them play against Seville. He was awful, missed 2 open goals, gave away a penalty and got sent off. The Valencia fans call him the Argentine Micheal Gilkes. One to be avoided. So he's not even up to the Neil McCann standard then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 My favourite Saints winger was David 'one trick' Lee. If he had possessed pace, skill, and the ability to beat a player he would have been unplayable. He looked offensively northern to me at the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Reports in Spain suggest that the agents of Valencia forward Pablo Piatti are in Spain to negotiate his sale, with Superdeporte mentioning Swansea and Southampton as possible destinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Looks like the love child of Gaston & Billy Sharp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 I hope this isn't true. I was on holiday in Valencia visiting friends and went to see them play against Seville. He was awful, missed 2 open goals, gave away a penalty and got sent off. The Valencia fans call him the Argentine Micheal Gilkes. One to be avoided. Valencia fans have heard of Micheal Gilkes?!!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Valencia fans have heard of Micheal Gilkes?!!!!? He's a popular figure over there, did some work on Spanish TV and appeared on their version of dancing on ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 I hope this isn't true. I was on holiday in Valencia visiting friends and went to see them play against Seville. He was awful, missed 2 open goals, gave away a penalty and got sent off. The Valencia fans call him the Argentine Micheal Gilkes. One to be avoided. Good insight Pat. One to miss then. I wonder what Michael Gilkes is doing these days. Apart from Spanish Dancing on Ice, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 I certainly remember his name from FM. Can't believe he's still only 24. Is probably versatile enough to play in any of the 'support 3' positions. Think a loan is a sensible option. Best case scenario : He plays like Coutinho. Worst case scenario : He's like another Iago Falque. Shame we aren't in for the other Argentine midfielder at Valencia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 He's a popular figure over there, did some work on Spanish TV and appeared on their version of dancing on ice. Damn .... if only you'd have said Frankie Bennett instead of Gilkes. We could have had a whole load of jokes about waiters from Barcelona ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Good insight Pat. One to miss then. I wonder what Michael Gilkes is doing these days. Apart from Spanish Dancing on Ice, of course. I hear he got a job as a postman but got fired becuse he kept on missing the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 (edited) He's only 5ft 4 - too small for the premier league I think If we're going to sign a player of that type we should go for Manuel Lanzini from River Plate Now that would be a good acquisition. At the time the name Lamela first appeared, I wondered why perhaps we did not try buying upcoming South American players direct from Argentina, or Brazil rather than after wait until they had made a name - and clocked up a £12 - 20m price - in Italy.Or in the case of Piatti, until his career has come off the rails a little. Possibly the answer is uncertainty as to how they settle in Europe, or wanting to see them play in a better league standard, or does playing in Italy first make a work permit easier ? I read on a site that Roma want Lanzini before agreeing the sale of Lamela, so it would be good to scupper that deal and p1ss the yids off in the process ( Don't forgive them for the Bale deal, and lumbering us with Forecast.) Edited 26 August, 2013 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Seems the Agent hawking him around. WBA paper saying he is a target for them (they love a loan) and numerous other PL teams. Doubt we are any more interested than the others. As an aside, we must be close to the 52m wage bill limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/robby.snead/348568/southampton-lead-swansea-in-the-chase-for-valencia-s-pablo-piatti The 24-year-old could make the move to the St Marys Stadium in time for Southampton's next Premier League fixture, in what would be a season long loan deal. The diminutive Argentine is not a permanent fixture in Valencia's starting line up and could soon follow his former teammate, Roberto Soldado, to the English Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Can't help but think there are better options available if we just want a loan, Victor Moses for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Can't help but think there are better options available if we just want a loan, Victor Moses for example. I saw Moses was linked with Liverpool today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Can't help but think there are better options available if we just want a loan, Victor Moses for example. You seen much of Piatti, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Moses would use up 40-50k of wages, perhaps we don't have that much room left in the 52m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 You seen much of Piatti, then? Seen a fair bit of him at Valencia and while he is certainly skillful and quick he really is lightweight, even in a less physical league he struggles to cope with it at times. If he was somehow able to overcome the physical nature of the English game, he would be very good but I don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Moses would use up 40-50k of wages, perhaps we don't have that much room left in the 52m? We still haven't spent all the £90m we got for last season yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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