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Lallana's Left Peg

Lallana's Left Peg

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Just back from the game. A few things to note:

 

1. Mayuka is not a lone striker. Doesn't seem to anticipate things too well, doesn't get involved enough, just doesn't carry himself like someone who can play that role. He was shifted out to the right at HT with Rodriguez playing up top and we were miles better. The midfielders and defence had a target they trusted and someone who had better movement. Mayuka also seemed more interested when he could receive the ball in more space.

 

2. It wasn't clicking in the final third in the first half. Very neat at the back and in midfield, but not enough happening in the final third. Ramirez was very disappointing. On one hand he wasn't being given the ball in spaces he demanded it, but on the other his general demeanour and play when he had the ball was not good enough. Hustled off the ball too easily, dwelling on it too much, and some really bad decision making. I sincerely hope he finds something in Osvaldo has his compatibility with the rest of the group isn't there at the moment, regardless of the talent. His goal was classy though, to be fair. And he was clearly relieved to score.

 

3. The defence were good but O'Grady won far more than his fair share of flicks. Fox was very good as well.

 

4. Davis and Cork were neat, but Davis was more efficient moving forward with the ball - our man of the match for me.

 

5. Isgrove was a little disappointing, I think he was keen to impress but he looked a little nervous and at times you could see some players reminding him of positions to be on based on stuff they have worked on in training. More to come from him.

 

6. All the goals were well taken, and it was brilliant to see Rowe, Reed, and Sinclair come on. The game had opened up by then (Barnsley kept throwing strikers on) so there was more space to work but Rowe was very lively and could (perhaps even should) have scored twice. Reed was great - slipped into the midfield like he had played there for 10 years and also made runs forward and passed the ball forward very well - it is easy to be a crab playing in front of the back four but he was keen to move us up the pitch while retaining the ball. Sinclair did not have much time on the pitch but his movement was efficient.

 

It was a very efficient performance in which we were always in control. Barnsley didn't have much to offer and it was nice to get five goals. It didn't click in the final third until they were chasing the game in the second half but I would concede that may well be due to a combination that have not played together before.

 

Above all hopefully the game will be known for another three promising debuts for players who will go on to significantly contribute to the first team in the years to come.

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maysie

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Just shown the Sunderland goals for the second time in 15 minutes. Now they are 'explaining' the Yeovil game again without any actual footage. Have they not got the rights to show half these games or are they just trying to wind me up?

 

Just want to keep all us mugs tuned in.

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Just shown the Sunderland goals for the second time in 15 minutes. Now they are 'explaining' the Yeovil game again without any actual footage. Have they not got the rights to show half these games or are they just trying to wind me up?

 

Double...

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Saints boy in Leeds

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Comfortable win, miles better than Barnsley and a win was never really in doubt. Rodriguez was man of the match for me, lead the line very well and a great finish, think it was him who hit the post too. Great goal at the end from Ramirez, he played well In patches but again didnt really do enough against a poor team and should have buried his chance in the early minutes. I though Mayuka was poor in the first half but improved in the second. Rowe was lively when he came on and unlucky not score, Reid looked quality, good on the ball fitted in straight away and looks to have a bit about it.

 

All in all a good night for saints, 5 goals and a good win and a good run out for the fringe players and a rare 90 minutes for Ramirez which was good to see.

 

 

This, spot on mate. Agree with Gaston although looked a lot more interested 2nd half.

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Jesus Perez was interviewed after the game and was asked about Mayuka being shifted out to the right, and whether that was his best position. He basically said he's better when he's on the ball more, although he said "we don't play in positions, we play from positions" which illustrates the fluidity that we're trying to bring to our play. Personally I think Mayuka is a very good out wide, he's showed his chops in a few games there last year and think we should be using him there more often. Very dangerous against West Ham (away) and Spurs (home) cutting in from the right with his pace.

 

Wish I had gone to this game now, had to work instead :(

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Just in the door, was a good evening all round and enjoyed it. Read looked great when he came on, another off the conveyor belt. Chris Morgan (ex Sheffield Utd and now their coach) was in the away end with a notepad watching some of our youngsters. He seemed to particularly write a bit about Isgrove...

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Just in the door, was a good evening all round and enjoyed it. Read looked great when he came on, another off the conveyor belt. Chris Morgan (ex Sheffield Utd and now their coach) was in the away end with a notepad watching some of our youngsters. He seemed to particularly write a bit about Isgrove...

 

Was he sitting with an older bloke, quite high up?

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SSN are showing goals from some of the games (have only done Reading so far).

 

Don't know if anyone else was getting annoyed at how often they kept showing the Bristol City - Palace highlights before any others, ad infinitum. It wasnt even THAT much of a shock, Palace and Holloway are pretty dire.

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That's a long way to go for an evening away match but it was good to see a comfortable win and 5 goals, 4 of which were nicely taken.

Surprised no Do Prado - he may be injured and no sign of Hooiveld either.

V disappointed in Mayuka, I have to say. Until his goal he just did not get into the game

Isgrove only came to life in the 2nd H when he went wide left. Ramirez so much skill and composure but so frustrating. His free kicks last night were shocking.

Oakwell was just how I imagined it, corrugated fences, red bricked walls and old fashioned corner steel floodlights that looked like they had been in situ since Michael Parkinson was a nipper.

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That's a long way to go for an evening away match but it was good to see a comfortable win and 5 goals, 4 of which were nicely taken.

Surprised no Do Prado - he may be injured and no sign of Hooiveld either.

V disappointed in Mayuka, I have to say. Until his goal he just did not get into the game

Isgrove only came to life in the 2nd H when he went wide left. Ramirez so much skill and composure but so frustrating. His free kicks last night were shocking.

Oakwell was just how I imagined it, corrugated fences, red bricked walls and old fashioned corner steel floodlights that looked like they had been in situ since Michael Parkinson was a nipper.

 

Hooiveld had a sore throat so was left out last night.

 

Guly decision even surprised the Solent crew who got no answers to their questions.

 

Lot of praise was given (by Solent) to MP last night for not panicking in 1st half when he played Mayuka alone up front and then changing things around at HT to very good effect switching Isgrove to left dropping Mayuka to right & JRod up front

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That's a long way to go for an evening away match but it was good to see a comfortable win and 5 goals, 4 of which were nicely taken.

Surprised no Do Prado - he may be injured and no sign of Hooiveld either.

V disappointed in Mayuka, I have to say. Until his goal he just did not get into the game

Isgrove only came to life in the 2nd H when he went wide left. Ramirez so much skill and composure but so frustrating. His free kicks last night were shocking.

Oakwell was just how I imagined it, corrugated fences, red bricked walls and old fashioned corner steel floodlights that looked like they had been in situ since Michael Parkinson was a nipper.

 

 

Seems as though both Isgrove and Mayuka have a bit of pace and can exploit wider positionsbetter, but few strikers look good against lofty defenders when they are only one-man up.

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Just read this page but for what it's worth here's my take:

Ramirez lacks composure in front of goal - that miss early doors was a shocker for a player of his ability. Agree with Duncan his free kicks were truly abysmal but a quality run and finish on 92-mins.

Mayuka is not a target man - I thought his redeeming feature was pace. Well I know he was always offside in previous games - but either our midfield were so intent on keeping possession in the 1st half and he didn't run the channels or he was told not to?

Kelvin had a quiet night but even then could keep a clean sheet - I blame Fox! Only joking he was one of the better players on the pitch - but I seem to recall 2-defenders backing off and ltting the Barnsley lad shoot - mind you it was a good strike.

All the youngsters did themselves proud - nice to see Corky back, with Clyne and Yoshida. Jay Rod looks like a man on a mission - I can't see him being dropped or left out. He has to be the future!

Nice touch at the end getting rid of the shirts - but it' was like watching another team! Traditionalist me still like striped red & white shirts and yellow away kits. Black is just all wrong!

Good following for a Tuesday night - acoustics very good in a very empty stand. Made the Saints fans sound like 10-times as many!

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Yes he was, but his translator wasn't - true story.

 

Perez is essentially MP's assistant, and as the team we put out was pretty much our " reserve strength " then perhaps he was an obvious person to run the show, and MP could assess them objectively without having to think about changes, tactics, etc.

 

Just about everyone out there last night was " second-choice " in the current scene, so they may not have just been playing for a place on the bench, but something more important - their future with SFC.

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A couple of things. Firstly, the black kit is our best away one for ages.

 

Secondly, Ramirez seems to be composed in front of goal for a midfielder (finish tonight, QPR and WH home last season) and also is capable of some excellent assists. Instead of focusing on what he doesn't do well why don't we look at the positives because once he finds a little more consistency we have a cracking player on our hands.

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Hooiveld had a sore throat so was left out last night.

 

Guly decision even surprised the Solent crew who got no answers to their questions.

 

Blackmore asked Perez about Guly in the post match interview and he said he was ill too.

 

d2ceb16562ae0c783637d2bd8fdc9739_normal.jpegBBC Solent Sport ‏@solentsport

#saintsfc assistant boss Jesús Pérez speaking to @bigadamsport after 5-1 League Cup win at Barnsley http://boo.fm/b1569396

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Comfortable win, miles better than Barnsley and a win was never really in doubt. Rodriguez was man of the match for me, lead the line very well and a great finish, think it was him who hit the post too. Great goal at the end from Ramirez, he played well In patches but again didnt really do enough against a poor team and should have buried his chance in the early minutes. I though Mayuka was poor in the first half but improved in the second. Rowe was lively when he came on and unlucky not score, Reid looked quality, good on the ball fitted in straight away and looks to have a bit about it.

 

All in all a good night for saints, 5 goals and a good win and a good run out for the fringe players and a rare 90 minutes for Ramirez which was good to see.

 

Went round the away end with Fitzhugh Fella, trying to work out which one was you. No joy as there were no foam hands and too many replica shirts being worn. We did call out for "The Mongboard Superstar" to make himself known. But to no avail.

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Can someone share the words to the inspiral carpets song that I could only make out finished with "we got potechino" cheers

 

how does it feel to be pompey

how does it feel to be poor

you sign wittingham

we sign pottechino

pottechino

pottechino

 

Dear lord, how hard can it be to get our manager's name right?

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Also why did some of our fans celebrate Barnsleys goal last night? Very odd, jumping around and dancing when their goal music came on, it was pretty embarrassing

 

Saints fans are unique in this way - they support Saints 1st (sure) but also LOVE their football and appreciate good skills + goals. A number of our fans regularly watch Championship footy + League 1 and 2 and a lot of overseas games.

 

I know a lot of Saints fans (me included) that have followed Stephen Dawson's career since his early days at Mansfield Town and Bury and would have been delighted to see him score a world class goal last night.

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It would be much better if it was you've (or even they've) got Whittingham, we've got Pottechino. The the people who correct the spellings and stuff go round and correct those signing the wrong words? Cause you don't really sign a manager do you? You sign players like Phil Jones and Kun Aguero. We better watch out or Man City might star nicking our songs.

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It would be much better if it was you've (or even they've) got Whittingham, we've got Pottechino. The the people who correct the spellings and stuff go round and correct those signing the wrong words? Cause you don't really sign a manager do you? You sign players like Phil Jones and Kun Aguero. We better watch out or Man City might star nicking our songs.

 

*singing

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It would be much better if it was you've (or even they've) got Whittingham, we've got Pottechino. The the people who correct the spellings and stuff go round and correct those signing the wrong words? Cause you don't really sign a manager do you? You sign players like Phil Jones and Kun Aguero. We better watch out or Man City might star nicking our songs.

 

Well I did notice that the fans singing the song were mis-pronouncing his name as well. He comes from Latin America and they pronounce 'CH' in the same way we would pronounce 'CK'. It's quite embarrassing that we can't even pronounce our own manager's name correctly when singing it.

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It would be much better if it was you've (or even they've) got Whittingham, we've got Pottechino. The the people who correct the spellings and stuff go round and correct those signing the wrong words? Cause you don't really sign a manager do you? You sign players like Phil Jones and Kun Aguero. We better watch out or Man City might star nicking our songs.

 

There was also some Mongs singing that horrendous Yaya/Kolo Toure song with the hand movements as well about Kelvin and Steven Davis last night FFS. :mcinnes:

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Well I did notice that the fans singing the song were mis-pronouncing his name as well. He comes from Latin America and they pronounce 'CH' in the same way we would pronounce 'CK'. It's quite embarrassing that we can't even pronounce our own manager's name correctly when singing it.

 

Look on the Brightside, at least we have a song for him.. and it is nothing to do with MoPo

 

Wonder what Reading's new managers' song will be?

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There was also some Mongs singing that horrendous Yaya/Kolo Toure song with the hand movements as well about Kelvin and Steven Davis last night FFS. :mcinnes:

 

I like the sound of that. I will of course be singing Davies not Davis to see if anyone gets wound up enough by it to start a thread. Fingers crossed. What are the hand movements Turks? I don't think there is enough dance in soccer ball supporting. If we really want the Asian market, we have to sort out our dance moves.

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Kelvin

 

Clyne

Maya

Jos

Fox

 

Cork

Morgan

 

Guly

S Davis

Isgrove

 

Mayuka

 

Subs:

 

Gazza

Turnbull

Gaston

Rowe

Osvaldo

 

(I think it is only 5 subs, but, if 7 - add: Stephens, Gape)

 

If that isn't enough to win we will have real problems in the league this season.

 

no where near enough up front

 

Holy Cow Batman, my original front four only scored three goals between then (and that with one of them playing a deeper role) with one of my subs getting another. Obviously not enough to counter their one goal...........

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