TijuanaTim Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Incoming..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Match thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 The team I coach - 13 years old girls - and they know to mark each post at corners.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LainPain Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Funny that every commentator goes on and on about this but no managers ever change it. Hard to believe a team would be more successful taking two players away from competing in the air, even if it makes the goal a bit smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Players on post or not on this level is goalies decision, whatever makes him most comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 It's easy to talk about the goal we conceded playing with nobody on the posts. It's not so easy talking about the 5 goals we might have conceded having 2 less players defending the box. No system is 100% infallible. We've conceded once in our opening 3 hours of football, not bad going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Yet another??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 The post didn't score though did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timayes Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 The bigger worry should be that the smallest bloke on the pitch was unchallenged and in all fairness, with blokes on the post or not should have (and did) bury that header. I can only put it down to early match confusion, who's picking up who where etc, but best get it out of the way now, shouldn't think it will happen quite so easy again this year (fingers crossed) TOORL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Just were not awake - was a goal as soon as they got the corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 it could have been 1 from 3 or 4 to score from the corner our defence where all having a gathering the other side of the penalty area when the ball flew over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 I get really ****ed off that we leave no one up from opposition corners. It just allows them to put more people in our box. When we clear it comes straight back. Simply does not make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Tim lives in America you know ...and is a manager of a girl team of soccer ball players. He knows what hes talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 25 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Tim lives in America you know ...and is a manager of a girl team of soccer ball players. He knows what hes talking about. Hello manji my lovely, 2 out of 4....not bad for you mush, normally you're 100% fabrication, the two right ones are, yes I do live in the US and I can also confirm your opinion that I know what I am talking about, so thanks. I also play with lots of our excellent co-posters on the Saints Web team, do you? Oh how silly of me to ask that, of course you don't and we all know why right LMFAO. Nothing personal of course, just going on what we are told.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokie Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Really? The problem was that there was no one on Giaccherini. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Really? The problem was that there was no one on Giaccherini. HTH. Shell of a nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Whilst a man on the post woukd have certainly helped, leaving Gianchieri unmarked was fatal, it wasnt even like it was particularly good movement on his part either !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Whilst a man on the post woukd have certainly helped, leaving Gianchieri unmarked was fatal, it wasnt even like it was particularly good movement on his part either !!! either they missed him altogether, or someone thought......who needs to mark a midget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 either they missed him altogether, or someone thought......who needs to mark a midget? Indeed. The real question is why so many defenders completely misread the flight of the ball and missed their headers. The midget seemed to read it ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 More strange was that Wanyama was positioned on edge of the box and JWP marking someone inside the area. Wanyama should be one of our best defensive headers. Second corner their roles were reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 All a bit of a mess, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Couldn't understand why at 6"2 Wanyama was on the edge of the box marking Johnson, and the likes of Lallana were in the box..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Shambolic defending, 8 players in the box marking 5 Sunderland players and the smallest man on the pitch gets between 4 players and gets a free header 6 yards out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 We have two 6' CB's , other who are useful in the air, yet a f^cking dwarf scores from a header ! Made I livid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Shambolic. Shaw was yards away towards the near post! Dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 25 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Shambolic defending, 8 players in the box marking 5 Sunderland players and the smallest man on the pitch gets between 4 players and gets a free header 6 yards out. Thank you Turkish sir...8 defenders - 5 attackers....er one defender on each post, every one of the 5 Sunderland players marked and even one spare to follow the ball. Case closed 1–0, three points. Besides that we did really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 watching the city game today, city had players on the posts when they let in two easy corners from cardiff... players on posts (or lack of them) weren't the problem, the marking was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 I agree with Tim that we should put defenders on the posts. We should also play a couple of inside halts and other tactics favoured by footballing throwbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Shambolic defending, 8 players in the box marking 5 Sunderland players and the smallest man on the pitch gets between 4 players and gets a free header 6 yards out. He didn't get between anyone, he peeled off of the back of the group of players and found himself in space latterly vacated by SRL and not picked up by Chambers either. Man on the post would have made no difference, issue is that he was allowed to get away from the other players and those in the right area were asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 He didn't get between anyone, he peeled off of the back of the group of players and found himself in space latterly vacated by SRL and not picked up by Chambers either. Man on the post would have made no difference, issue is that he was allowed to get away from the other players and those in the right area were asleep. Yeah, peeled off and got in between Rodriguez, Lambert, Chambers and Ward Prowse (i think) to get a a fee header 6 yards out. It was shambolic defending, we had 9 outfield players in the box when the goal went in, 6 of them had gone to or were on the front post area to pick up two players, Wanyama was on the edge of the box and Cambers and Ward Prowse marking shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 He didn't get between anyone, he peeled off of the back of the group of players and found himself in space latterly vacated by SRL and not picked up by Chambers either. Man on the post would have made no difference, issue is that he was allowed to get away from the other players and those in the right area were asleep. It's a pedantic point but yes, the main culprits were the players who let him drift off behind them (especially Lambert who completely got the flight of the ball wrong and ran past his man trying to attack it). To be fair, Chambers didn't cover himself in glory either and got stuck between sticking to his man and attacking the ball; in the end he did neither and allowed the free header. In all, shocking defending all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 watching the city game today, city had players on the posts when they let in two easy corners from cardiff... players on posts (or lack of them) weren't the problem, the marking was. I was just about to post the same comment. Unless you have two extra players on the pitch, putting one on each post means two players will be unmarked and have a free header. Besides, defenders on the line just get in the keepers way. Really is living in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 There are lots of pros and cons but I'd certainly be inclined to use a near-post defender against teams like Sunderland that habitually hit killer in-swingers. Let's not forget that we were nearly "done" again a few minutes later when Boruc just managed to scramble another Larsson corner away just before it crossed the line. But, on the goal, we had six defenders sucked to beyond the near post to compete with three Sunderland players. That will leave you short of markers much more than using one or two men on the posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 August, 2013 Share Posted 25 August, 2013 Its swings and roundabouts, plenty of goals are scored because players don't get off the post quick enough and somebody taps one in from 3 yards following a scramble. Its all about defending correctly, not this system or that. Last season Shaw (I think it was) stayed on the post and allowed Mahoney to scramble in a Wigan equaliser , when had moved off, he would have been caught off side. I would imagine they discuss it with the keeper and with mp being an international centre half , come up with the best solution for this set of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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