Joensuu Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Was he a fudge packer or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 The OP delivered his irony more succinctly than you did. OK... The OP has a better user name than you (I'm guessing this is a game, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryoman1965 Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 I remember when "he's got a Malllllteser on his head" was considered a hilarious chant rather then offensive. Ffs is that really offensive. Is pineapple still ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 OK... The OP has a better user name than you (I'm guessing this is a game, right?) Is that another Stewart Lee routine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 If you can't stand the banta get out of the kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 It's a difficult one really. I have a lot of Brighton fans as friends who kind of enjoy the banter, their favourite riposte to said chant is normally 'You're too ugly to be gay' which is also a lot funnier than the one directed their way. I'm not one to essentialise, but gay people do actually have a sense of humour. One of my friends, a Posh S/T holder who is gay, takes no offense to the 'we can see you holding hands' chant. That said, he would most definitely object to individuals/groups of fans calling out 'poof', 'pansy', 'such and such takes it up the arse', which makes a pejorative connection between a players behaviour on the football pitch and sexual orientation. In those of sort of instances, the persons/groups doing the chanting, probably don't actually think the player is gay, but are just targeting something deemed effeminate (shirking a tackle etc.) and then lazily employing homophobic language to make their point. For gay people watching in the crowd though, when other spectators are invoking their identity as a kind of insult, that must be pretty damn humiliating. Those type of fans need to be educated, sanctioned, or chucked out of football grounds, full-stop. Seems reasonable. Though the only gay person I've discussed it with couldn't care less about it and didn't find it humiliating in any way, because he was fine rationalising that it's only thickoes who say stuff like that anyway. FWIW I don't think there's anything remotely offensive about "we can see you holding hands", but it's about as amusing and original as singing about sheep****gers has been for 20 years (i.e. not at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 FFS. It's PC gone mad. http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/23/police-take-aim-at-online-abuse-and-homophobic-chants-within-football-3935084/ Whats the problem - you can still sing Skatophobic chants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 or "stand up if you can't sit down!" the amex is gonna be quiet from now on! glol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 I remember when Man U put us out of the cup at St Mary's in the mid 2000s, the refrain from the Northam and substantial sections of the Saints support was "Ruud Van Nistelroy takes it up the Arse!" Now my question is this: Is that Nistelroy-phobic, homophobic, or both? It certainly was offensive and I don't mind admitting I joined in and thoroughly enjoyed it. Is just being offensive illegal now? Would the entire Northam be liable for arrest if repeated now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Singing come on you saints might get banned in the future as it might offend other religious groups who dont have saints There is no end to the PC world thought process, I did have a wry smile when they said you would be banned from going to the world cup in brazil if you were cuaght make such chants, Just how many football fans from the UK will be going to the world cup, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 I know people are annoyed but in all seriousness I don't see what is so offensive about something like we can see you holding hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Am I a xenophobe if I state that I can't stand Turkish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Singing come on you saints might get banned in the future as it might offend other religious groups who dont have saints There is no end to the PC world thought process, I did have a wry smile when they said you would be banned from going to the world cup in brazil if you were cuaght make such chants, Just how many football fans from the UK will be going to the world cup, At least they can still go to the Winter Olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Personally i hope they soon outlaw anti ginger chants so we never have to hear that bloody "look like a wotsit" song again. I remember sitting in the Northam a few seasons ago and the team we were playing had a ginger keeper , The bloke next to me wouldn't stop giving him all sorts of ginger gibes ! Until I nudged bim and pointed out that there was a MASSIVE ginger headded bloke sat behind him haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Jeez, all the cretins come out of the woodwork on threads such as these. Pretty amazing how so many try and subsume an argument about tackling homophobia under the umbrella of 'political correctness gone mad'. That really is the refuge of a complete idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 MK Dons in JPT. What was that curly wotsits name? Could tell he was getting really ****ed off. Dean Lewington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 The problem with some chants is how repetitive and boring they are, and the manner in which they are chanted. The "does your boyfriend know you're here" is a bit unoriginal now, and is anyway only done to wind up the straight fans: don't think any gay guys could give a monkey's. Last season's opener at the Etihad on a Sunday we heard briefly the chant: "You're only here for the village".. I just looked across to the bay chanting it, gave a big grin and gave them the thumbs up. It was a good night out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Mine is quoted pretty much directly from Stewart Lee The point being that your failure to recognise the OP was not being serious, but was himself mocking the same viewpoint as you were, totally invalidates your assertion of "the rhetoric and the implied values of the OP". The OP was himself also referencing Stewart Lee, but was far more subtle in doing so. Too subtle for many I notice. Grey Crab comes across as a curmudgeonly c*nt on here, and I love him for that, but he is actually a very thoughtful individual who doesn't say things lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyb5443 Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Dean Lewington Must find him on twitter Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 FFS. It's PC gone mad. http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/23/police-take-aim-at-online-abuse-and-homophobic-chants-within-football-3935084/ The point being that your failure to recognise the OP was not being serious, but was himself mocking the same viewpoint as you were The OP was himself also referencing Stewart Lee, but was far more subtle in doing so. Too subtle for many I notice. Grey Crab comes across as a curmudgeonly c*nt on here, and I love him for that, but he is actually a very thoughtful individual who doesn't say things lightly. Now, this all may be true of the OP, but without a single clue of sarcasm, how are those of us who don't know him supposed to know this? The OP needs to grab a little winky if he wants us to get on board with him. See what I did there in the homophobe thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 The problem with some chants is how repetitive and boring they are, and the manner in which they are chanted. The "does your boyfriend know you're here" is a bit unoriginal now, and is anyway only done to wind up the straight fans: don't think any gay guys could give a monkey's. Last season's opener at the Etihad on a Sunday we heard briefly the chant: "You're only here for the village".. I just looked across to the bay chanting it, gave a big grin and gave them the thumbs up. It was a good night out.... It also doesn't include lesbians who might feel alienated by this chant that implies that homosexuality is a solely male dominated activity. I mean a lesbian wouldn't have a boyfriend would they, so not only is the chant homophobic its also sexiest. 'Does your partner know you're here?' Is much more all encompassing it applies to gay men and women as well as straight people, although perhaps single people might be offended by this chant, so we need to come up with something that includes them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 outrageous! Next they'll tell me beating my wife when i get home is unacceptable. Crazy Or more likely when she slaps you around a bit. Now that would be acceptable to most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 The point being that your failure to recognise the OP was not being serious, but was himself mocking the same viewpoint as you were, totally invalidates your assertion of "the rhetoric and the implied values of the OP". You're absolutely right, I have totally failed to spot this due to it's extreme subtlety. Mind you, I'm terrible for that. This reminds me of the time I failed to spot my own sweat in the ocean. Thanks for picking me up on it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Jeez, all the cretins come out of the woodwork on threads such as these. Pretty amazing how so many try and subsume an argument about tackling homophobia under the umbrella of 'political correctness gone mad'. That really is the refuge of a complete idiot. I'm genuinely not having a go but research the meaning of the word 'cretin' and you'd never use that word again. It is very cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpankBoy Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 I'm genuinely not having a go but research the meaning of the word 'cretin' and you'd never use that word again. It is very cruel. Stunted mental and physical growth? Midgets are VERY funny....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 23 August, 2013 Share Posted 23 August, 2013 Or more likely when she slaps you around a bit. Now that would be acceptable to most of us. I can tell you take sarcasm well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Or "stand up if you can't sit down!" The Amex is gonna be quiet from now on! All the away fans can sing "we're not singing anymore" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Am I right that signing "does your boyfriend know you're here" now gets you a 3 year ban from all English football stadia? Not saying that's right or wrong, just seeking to undertand the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 I can't wait for the pc brigade to turn their attention to weightisum, then, when they ban "you fat bastard" and "who ate all the pies?" I'll sneak back into the stadium ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 Am I right that signing "does your boyfriend know you're here" now gets you a 3 year ban from all English football stadia? When I sing that it's directed at the female fans. I'm subtly enquiring bout their relationship status cos I don't always have access to their facebooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 24 August, 2013 Share Posted 24 August, 2013 How come you can say "fudgepacker" when you are satirising ignorant right wing prejudice, but a term which was used for years to refer to the Pakistan Cricket Team gets you 4 infractions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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