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LGTL

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It's a World Cup year, and PC Plod and his gang want to make sure they get themselves on the jolly out there. This, therefore, comes as no surprise.

Le Timmier

Le Timmier

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FFS. It's PC gone mad.

 

*Yes, first the coloureds and now the gays! Soon they'll be nobody left to be prejudiced against will there? What's society coming to?! They'll be telling us we can't be sexist next, you mark my words.

 

(*and just in case there’s anyone from the Mail on Sunday reading this, that's not what I think, I was using an exaggerated form of the rhetoric and the implied values of the OP to satirise the rhetoric and the implied values of the OP.)

DuncanRG

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Sarcasm detectors being put through their paces in this thread. I pity anyone who actually sees this as a bad thing. Always do my best to engage people yelling bigoted crap at games.

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holepuncture

holepuncture

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Its OK, we just have to become a little smarter with our homophobic chanting IMO.

 

We are blessed with a language that lets us express ourselves in a variety of ways.

 

Im sure we can come up with some great songs, that have no homophobic remarks or inferences, just ambiguity and laughter.

Deano6

Deano6

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*Yes, first the coloureds and now the gays! Soon they'll be nobody left to be prejudiced against will there? What's society coming to?! They'll be telling us we can't be sexist next, you mark my words.

 

(*and just in case there’s anyone from the Mail on Sunday reading this, that's not what I think, I was using an exaggerated form of the rhetoric and the implied values of the OP to satirise the rhetoric and the implied values of the OP.)

 

The OP's satire was better than yours.

Mr X

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erasing discrimination is pc gone mad? i agree some chants aren't made in the same context but its still wrong to use the words & its impossible to police. Chances are one of our own players is Gay (though some saints fans might not handle that) sure it wont come out while they are still playing or probably at all, there are many gay footballers out there. Irresposible comment imo.

Turkish

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How is it pc gone mad? There shouldn't have been any homophobic chants in the first place.

 

I thought you might pipe up on this subject young Andy.

saintbletch

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*Yes, first the coloureds and now the gays! Soon they'll be nobody left to be prejudiced against will there? What's society coming to?! They'll be telling us we can't be sexist next, you mark my words.

 

(*and just in case there’s anyone from the Mail on Sunday reading this, that's not what I think, I was using an exaggerated form of the rhetoric and the implied values of the OP to satirise the rhetoric and the implied values of the OP.)

 

Outstanding use of a comedy vehicle Le Timmier.

The Kraken

The Kraken

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Is "we can see you holding hands" Really a homophobic chant?

 

It's definitely an unoriginal and copied one. Although that never seems to halt the genius of the Northam's literary minds.

Turkish

Turkish

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It's definitely an unoriginal and copied one. Although that never seems to halt the genius of the Northam's literary minds.

 

Personally i hope they soon outlaw anti ginger chants so we never have to hear that bloody "look like a wotsit" song again.

ashleyb5443

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Just out interest, When was the last time anyone heard a homophobic chant at a football match?

 

Never been to a Brighton game? That was a great day at St Mary's, shocking penalty decision and then a sending off.

 

What about we can see you holding hands?

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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outrageous! Next they'll tell me beating my wife when i get home is unacceptable. Crazy

 

Actually, thanks to those damned "grey" books, it seems most of them like that kind of thing these days :rolleyes: don't think you'll have a problem...........

Turkish

Turkish

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Never been to a Brighton game? That was a great day at St Mary's, shocking penalty decision and then a sending off.

 

What about we can see you holding hands?

 

As i said above, is that really homphobic? It's more mocking 99% hetrosexual people in the away end for a sterotype that is attached to their city. How is this any more offensive than calling people from Portmouth Skates? Do we think that everyone from Portsmouth is into beastility because of it?

 

If there was a gay player playing and people were chanting about wanting to stab him to death because he's gay or if people were chanting at Brighton fans "Brighton are holding hands and we dont know why, ecause when they get outside the poofs are gonna die" then that's fair enough. BUt chanting about people holding hands is hardly turning a football ground into a cauldron of homphobic hate is it.

s0108787

s0108787

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No more does your boyfriend know you're here or we can see you holding hands.

 

Or "stand up if you can't sit down!" :D

 

The Amex is gonna be quiet from now on!

ashleyb5443

ashleyb5443

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i still reserve the right to call ginger people 'wotsits'

it was the funniest time EVER at an away game

 

MK Dons in JPT. What was that curly wotsits name? Could tell he was getting really ****ed off.

Saintandy666

Saintandy666

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I thought you might pipe up on this subject young Andy.

 

Same for you. I also thought that you might quote and reply me as well. I'm so glad that we both take such a healthy interest.

Turkish

Turkish

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Same for you. I also thought that you might quote and reply me as well. I'm so glad that we both take such a healthy interest.

 

yours is more of an obsession.

Guided Missile

Guided Missile

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I make fun of pretty much anyone, if it get's a laugh. I draw the line at anyone with a disability, but with opposing football fans, pretty much anything is fair game. I thought the Sian Massey chant at St. Mary's was quite funny and I must admit, I joined in.

 

The fact that you make fun of anyone doesn't mean you hate them or any minority they represent, but hey, complaining about chants means no-one has mindless football violence to complain about, any more...

sfc1976

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A real priority for the public this. Apparently when questioned about policing policy the overwhelming majority said that preventing Brighton fans from being teased was how they wanted resources to be focused.

Joensuu

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Was with a Brighton fan last time played at St Mary's. Wish I'd thought about the stupidity of our chanting beforehand. Had to apologise to him after the game - "really sorry mate, we have a fair few ******* in our fanbase, but I guess every team has some".

 

And to think, some people are embarrassed by others choosing to wear scarfs or replica kits. :mcinnes:

Webby

Webby

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Its OK, we just have to become a little smarter with our homophobic chanting IMO.

 

We are blessed with a language that lets us express ourselves in a variety of ways.

 

Im sure we can come up with some great songs, that have no homophobic remarks or inferences, just ambiguity and laughter.

 

Like "you're particularly good in the kitchen and know how to make a risotto"?

Turkish

Turkish

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Was with a Brighton fan last time played at St Mary's. Wish I'd thought about the stupidity of our chanting beforehand. Had to apologise to him after the game - "really sorry mate, we have a fair few ******* in our fanbase, but I guess every team has some".

 

And to think, some people are embarrassed by others choosing to wear scarfs or replica kits. :mcinnes:

 

Was he offended? Did he comment on how outrageous and disgusting the chanting was?

Toon Saint

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As i said above, is that really homphobic? It's more mocking 99% hetrosexual people in the away end for a sterotype that is attached to their city. How is this any more offensive than calling people from Portmouth Skates? Do we think that everyone from Portsmouth is into beastility because of it?

 

If there was a gay player playing and people were chanting about wanting to stab him to death because he's gay or if people were chanting at Brighton fans "Brighton are holding hands and we dont know why, ecause when they get outside the poofs are gonna die" then that's fair enough. BUt chanting about people holding hands is hardly turning a football ground into a cauldron of homphobic hate is it.

 

It's a difficult one really. I have a lot of Brighton fans as friends who kind of enjoy the banter, their favourite riposte to said chant is normally 'You're too ugly to be gay' which is also a lot funnier than the one directed their way.

 

I'm not one to essentialise, but gay people do actually have a sense of humour. One of my friends, a Posh S/T holder who is gay, takes no offense to the 'we can see you holding hands' chant. That said, he would most definitely object to individuals/groups of fans calling out 'poof', 'pansy', 'such and such takes it up the arse', which makes a pejorative connection between a players behaviour on the football pitch and sexual orientation.

 

In those of sort of instances, the persons/groups doing the chanting, probably don't actually think the player is gay, but are just targeting something deemed effeminate (shirking a tackle etc.) and then lazily employing homophobic language to make their point.

 

For gay people watching in the crowd though, when other spectators are invoking their identity as a kind of insult, that must be pretty damn humiliating.

 

Those type of fans need to be educated, sanctioned, or chucked out of football grounds, full-stop.

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Turkish

Turkish

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Like "you're particularly good in the kitchen and know how to make a risotto"?

 

Youve got good skin, you know how to dress

Your stylish grooming, makes Beckham look a mess.

holepuncture

holepuncture

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Was with a Brighton fan last time played at St Mary's. Wish I'd thought about the stupidity of our chanting beforehand. Had to apologise to him after the game - "really sorry mate, we have a fair few ******* in our fanbase, but I guess every team has some".

 

And to think, some people are embarrassed by others choosing to wear scarfs or replica kits. :mcinnes:

 

Was he a fudge packer or something?

 

Like "you're particularly good in the kitchen and know how to make a risotto"?

 

LOL, something along those lines, just use your imagination, have a sing song at St.Fairies on Saturday!

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