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Nigel Adkins..how easily forgotten..


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Nigel was brilliant for us. It is hard for anyone to argue against that with any real credibility, without an axe to grind.

 

I for one was surprised he took the Reading job. A real error of judgement. I did think he was brighter than that and would have waited for a better bet! I hope he proves that wrong but I don't think he will.

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What's with all the bitterness? A manager who won us promotion twice. You should be ashamed.

 

He's always had a problem with him for whatever reason. Think his heart was set on O'Neill back in L1 and was massively underwhelmed with Adkins.

 

Think he was hoping to god he failed with us, odd.

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His achievement was going through the championship in one season. The league 1 promotion was no great managerial feat imo, but getting us into the premier first go was . My opinion is that history will show that was a pivotal achievement that enabled us to push on. Had we not gone up, what would the ml trusts attitude towards the club have been, would NC have lost interest? We should all be grateful for that season and nigels massive contribution to it.

 

That said, could you really see the top players we've signed this year attracted by the "homespun nigelisms" , we needed to move on and NC's ruthless ditching of Nigel will also be seen as the correct thing to do. My gut feeling is he'll become a decent league 1/ championsip manager, but his premiership days are behind him.

 

 

Why on earth anyone would take pleasure from him struggling is beyond me.

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His achievement was going through the championship in one season. The league 1 promotion was no great managerial feat imo, but getting us into the premier first go was . My opinion is that history will show that was a pivotal achievement that enabled us to push on. Had we not gone up, what would the ml trusts attitude towards the club have been, would NC have lost interest? We should all be grateful for that season and nigels massive contribution to it.

 

That said, could you really see the top players we've signed this year attracted by the "homespun nigelisms" , we needed to move on and NC's ruthless ditching of Nigel will also be seen as the correct thing to do. My gut feeling is he'll become a decent league 1/ championsip manager, but his premiership days are behind him.

 

 

Why on earth anyone would take pleasure from him struggling is beyond me.

 

This is a fair assessment. Agree on L1, Pardew and many others would have got us up that season. No so the Championship in one - that was a real achievement.

 

However I am not so sure Nige himself would be that much of a barrier to players, Osvaldo being a notable exception. The manager is only one factor, and Gaston arrived last year.

 

Lastly, way back when the clappers on this forum had decided he was Alex Ferguson/greatest young manager ever/future England boss etc etc I quietly floated the suggestion that he was more likely another Owen Coyle, Tony Mowbray, George Burley, Aidy Boothroyd, Paul Jewell etc etc. A decent manager with one or two great promotions in them. But who never make "the big league".

 

And I think I won't be far wrong.

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Bizarre postings from St Lard again. The man who is still obsessed with Adkins even months after his departure. Who only comments when he is looking to criticise the man who took us to successive promotions. Must be really grating on him at how well Adkins actually did, seems to have simply made Lard hate him more. there must be more to it somewhere along the line, such an irrational hatred for a man who has made such a significantly positive contribution to your own clubs recent history is one of the most bizarre things I've seen on this forum in the last few years. Maybe Adkins made a pass on Lards mrs before his appointment. Who knows. But it is thoroughly weird

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Bizarre postings from St Lard again. The man who is still obsessed with Adkins even months after his departure. Who only comments when he is looking to criticise the man who took us to successive promotions. Must be really grating on him at how well Adkins actually did, seems to have simply made Lard hate him more. there must be more to it somewhere along the line, such an irrational hatred for a man who has made such a significantly positive contribution to your own clubs recent history is one of the most bizarre things I've seen on this forum in the last few years. Maybe Adkins made a pass on Lards mrs before his appointment. Who knows. But it is thoroughly weird

 

I am pleased I am not the only one who has noticed.

 

One theory, which I put to him a looong time ago - just before he stopped being a full member - is that he is Corp Ho's alter-ego.

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Lard is like Dalek and Hoddle - but in reverse. Hope Nigel does well at Reading although I'd imagine their forums are a bit tense after blowing a two goal lead at home to their fellow promotion favourites and then last night's hammering. If they stick with him - and Reading will I think - they'll do well this year.

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I fully expect to see Adkins have a successful managerial career. He was very good for us, and IMO was certainly an upgrade on hoof and hope Pardew (albeit, Alan's transfer record puts Nigel's to shame). However, Pochettino is for me a clear upgrade.

 

I've no idea why some people think Reading was the wrong move. Local (so no family upheaval), already relegated last season (so no blame), parachute money to spend, and IMO more realistic expectations than say Leeds fans. What more could a manager in Adkin's position want?

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I fully expect to see Adkins have a successful managerial career. He was very good for us, and IMO was certainly an upgrade on hoof and hope Pardew (albeit, Alan's transfer record puts Nigel's to shame). However, Pochettino is for me a clear upgrade.

 

I've no idea why some people think Reading was the wrong move. Local (so no family upheaval), already relegated last season (so no blame), parachute money to spend, and IMO more realistic expectations than say Leeds fans. What more could a manager in Adkin's position want?

 

Id agree with that - good move for both for Reading FC and NA imho

 

He will need time to clear out the dead wood - perhaps a season (minimum) to change the philosophy of the club. Back in March I predicted a mid-table finish for Reading this year (Top 6 next) and I stand by that.

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Adkins did very well in his time at Southampton FC and built a big part of his name with his achievements with the club. He left with a lot of kudos and a great deal of sympathy. It is up to him to capitalise on the good name he has built for himself. Personally, I don't think Reading was the right project for him, and that he should have waited for a better outfit. He must be kicking himself over McDermott being at Leeds now.

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I've no idea why some people think Reading was the wrong move. Local (so no family upheaval), already relegated last season (so no blame), parachute money to spend, and IMO more realistic expectations than say Leeds fans. What more could a manager in Adkin's position want?

 

Too soon, and too much negative momentum?

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Adkins did very well in his time at Southampton FC and built a big part of his name with his achievements with the club. He left with a lot of kudos and a great deal of sympathy. It is up to him to capitalise on the good name he has built for himself. Personally, I don't think Reading was the right project for him, and that he should have waited for a better outfit. He must be kicking himself over McDermott being at Leeds now.

 

Precisely.

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Bizarre postings from St Lard again. The man who is still obsessed with Adkins even months after his departure. Who only comments when he is looking to criticise the man who took us to successive promotions. Must be really grating on him at how well Adkins actually did, seems to have simply made Lard hate him more. there must be more to it somewhere along the line, such an irrational hatred for a man who has made such a significantly positive contribution to your own clubs recent history is one of the most bizarre things I've seen on this forum in the last few years. Maybe Adkins made a pass on Lards mrs before his appointment. Who knows. But it is thoroughly weird

 

It is truly bizarre in fact, bordering on OCD - I'm not the greatest admirer of Lawrie Mc but I respect what he did for Saints all those years ago.

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His achievement was going through the championship in one season. The league 1 promotion was no great managerial feat imo, but getting us into the premier first go was . My opinion is that history will show that was a pivotal achievement that enabled us to push on. Had we not gone up, what would the ml trusts attitude towards the club have been, would NC have lost interest? We should all be grateful for that season and nigels massive contribution to it.

 

That said, could you really see the top players we've signed this year attracted by the "homespun nigelisms" , we needed to move on and NC's ruthless ditching of Nigel will also be seen as the correct thing to do. My gut feeling is he'll become a decent league 1/ championsip manager, but his premiership days are behind him.

 

Why on earth anyone would take pleasure from him struggling is beyond me.

 

Adkins was golden from around his third game right up until the final third of the championship season. He had a blistering run of managerial form. Our bolt out of the gates at the beginning of the Championship season was amazing; seeing Saints near to or at the top of the table was a weekly pleasure. Adkins was the manager who gave us that feeling. We owe him a lot of thanks for that.

 

Saying that, his star dipped in the final third of that season. I'm not ITK, and this is pure speculation, but do you think he knew from the start that the job only went as far as the Premiership? It would certainly explain the "parting of the ways" comments immediately after promotion.

 

Whatever the reason, most of us were cacking our pants toward the end due to the volatile form the team were showing. I remember Nige's exploits fondly, and I'll happily admit to being one of the "next Ferguson" crowd, particularly when the Liverpool job was up for grabs (oh dear:D).

 

We can all be guilty of seeing what we want to see, particularly when it comes to one of our own, especially after he was dismissed in the way he was. All I can say is that I hope the NDAs run out in time for the memoirs.

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