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RobM

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No surprise really, I'm sure they aren't the only club looking at him. He's a talented, young, English left-back who can defend as well as attack, has pace and is still developing. There won't be many teams that won't have at least looked at him.

 

Doesn't mean he's going anywhere though.

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Miltonaggro

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derisory, insulting, and about £20 million light. Can you imagine Nik Nak's response - no more easy departures...

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AussieDog

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At some point we will probably lose one of our better players, and although I will be disappointed, I trust that Cortese will make sure we get the best possible deal, and that we either already have an adequate backup, or that we are in a position to get one.

 

If we lost Shaw now for double that, and managed to get Baines for a decent sum, then I think everyone would be a winner.

 

It won't happen now, though :)

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I've just been sat in the garage reading the Liverpool Echo. The Evertonians are far from happy about Moyes' combined offer. It'd seem he's lost a lot of the goodwill he's built up over the years.

 

I can see Man Utd d!cking about through the entire window and adding no-one.

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DuncanRG

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at best sit on the bench at utd or be a key part of an ambitious team playing regularly, i think Luke has already decided that his immediate future will be better served at Saints, this seem like 2+2 = 5 to me poor journalism.

 

How on earth is it poor journalism? The article makes no allusions to a willingness to sell from the club or willingness to go from the player. All it says is that Man United are looking at him, which is perfectly reasonable considering they are in the market for a left-back.

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As suggested by others this is just the kind of fiction created by journalists to keep the name of one of their favoured clubs in the news. Can't keep printing the same story so manufacture a different line, completely regardless of truth. Its not 'lazy' journalism, it's gutter press at it's worse. But when responding, its not a good idea to use reported Everton word of 'derisory'. Derisory simply implies that if you were the selling club you would sell but you would need a higher offer.

There is little point a club spending millions on good players if it then sells other good players and there is no doubt that Southampton are not intending to sell any of its star players, as shown by the long-term contract strategy that's been employed.

The serious issue about this story is that the Daily Express can unsettle a player by saying that a club is interested in him, when it is contrary to FA rules for a club to make approaches to players without the permission of the employing club, permission that can be refused and often is. It should be possible to take action against these newspapers and if the present rules and regulations, or the law, does not provide for that the FA should take steps to see that it does in future. Fans should be sickened by the way the media use fake stories about football to fill their blank spaces. Rant over.....

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max_saints

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1. sell him for 30mil

2. buy Baines for 20mil

3. ??????

4. profit (+ targett as back up)

 

honestly though, if we do get a formal offer of maybe 20mil, it would be a good rest of our ambitions. mind you if the club does accept shaw will go, none of this waiting for Chelsea rubbish

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CB Fry

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As suggested by others this is just the kind of fiction created by journalists to keep the name of one of their favoured clubs in the news. Can't keep printing the same story so manufacture a different line, completely regardless of truth. Its not 'lazy' journalism, it's gutter press at it's worse. But when responding, its not a good idea to use reported Everton word of 'derisory'. Derisory simply implies that if you were the selling club you would sell but you would need a higher offer.

There is little point a club spending millions on good players if it then sells other good players and there is no doubt that Southampton are not intending to sell any of its star players, as shown by the long-term contract strategy that's been employed.

The serious issue about this story is that the Daily Express can unsettle a player by saying that a club is interested in him, when it is contrary to FA rules for a club to make approaches to players without the permission of the employing club, permission that can be refused and often is. It should be possible to take action against these newspapers and if the present rules and regulations, or the law, does not provide for that the FA should take steps to see that it does in future. Fans should be sickened by the way the media use fake stories about football to fill their blank spaces. Rant over.....

 

So you think Manchester United have no interest whatsoever in signing Luke Shaw?

 

You can call it lazy journalism/gutter press if you like but you have no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim that the newspaper completely fabricated this story. Not a shred.

 

In other words: the usual lazy, gutter forum response to any news story that you don't want to read.

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saintchris23

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Loving the new word of the moment is 'derisory' and people that have never used it prior to this transfer window, have it firmly entrenched in their vocabulary.

 

I pine for the days when 'untenable' was the word of the moment......I actually got sacked by a boss using that phrase!

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moonraker

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Not denying Utd and many others are interested in Shaw, as we might be interested in many players, the problem is reporting it in this way alludes to an active as opposed to a passive interest. Have Utd made an approach to saints? if not this is poor journalism, aka the express peddle the story that Shaw a recognised as a real talent, Utd rebuffed by Everton therefore they might go for Shaw.

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CHAPEL END CHARLIE

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Top clubs are interested in signing top young talent - 'twas ever thus.

 

However as long as Luke is happy to stay here, and I see no indication that he is not, then he's going nowhere. The days when plucky little Southampton where your typical selling club every time a semi decent offer comes along are gone now ... well until the money runs out anyway.

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So you think Manchester United have no interest whatsoever in signing Luke Shaw?

 

You can call it lazy journalism/gutter press if you like but you have no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim that the newspaper completely fabricated this story. Not a shred.

 

In other words: the usual lazy, gutter forum response to any news story that you don't want to read.

 

I think the point he was making is that a club can't declare an interest in another club's player until such time that said club has agreed they can do so. It therefore follows that it shouldn't be possible for a newspaper to report this 'declaration of interest' until the clubs have come to an initial agreement. Newspapers appear to be pre-empting this agreement and reporting something that hasn't formally happened yet, ergo they are "making up" what they think is about to happen. People are simply suggesting that newspapers should report news (I.e. something that IS happening) rather than trying to create news (I.e. reporting stuff that MIGHT happen)

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Wes Tender

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The biggest supported club in British football have not done very much in the transfer window, which isn't that far away from closure and the United fans and their supporters in the media are getting a bit worried. In an effort to try and convince the plastics that they are not inactive, they rehash a story from earlier on. But that they are interested in Shaw is no surprise to anybody, as City, Chelsea, Liverpool, pretty well any other top club, would also love to have him play for them. It hasn't yet penetrated the skulls of the less intelligent journos that Southampton are no longer forced to sell their best players to keep their head above water financially and Shaw's signing of a new long contract and the interest in him from all the most wealthy sucessful clubs ought to have had them concluding that a paltry £10 million would only be enough to buy them just one leg.

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Saint Charlie

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Not sure of anyone else has read "The Nowhere Men" an excellent book on the misunderstood world of scouting but there are a few mentions of Shaw in there. A Liverpool scout was tracking him age 14-16 and recommended him to them loads of times. All the top clubs would have been watching even back then.

 

Excellent book, Arsenal scout mentions that whilst everyone was raving about Shaw, he feels Chambers will be just as good (think this was written in 2012).

 

Also mentions that basically the whole Prem was watching Gazzaniga at Gillingham and he was rated extremely highly by the Scouts.

 

Well worth a read.

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Chez

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I was surprised United didn't try harder to sign Bale (I know Fergie called and left a message offering peanuts) and they clearly dropped a ball with that one. Quite frankly I'm surprised they haven't come in for Shaw this summer. Absolutely perfect for them. Hopefully they will get Baines and Chelsea will spend a fortune on some other waste of space Russian left back and we can all relax for a few years.

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angelman

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Is Buttner no good then?

 

He seems to be being offered out to one and all. I know it is a little bit petty, as Man U or Saints isn't really a hard choice, but good.

 

As for £10m, if you want to sign a player, you don't go in with an OTT offer first up. You start low, the selling club starts high and you go back and forth and meet in the middle. Usually if someone puts in a really stupidly low bid, you consider them as a tyre kicker and ignore them and move on. Can ManU be thought of as this, chancers or testing the waters to see what our resolve is?

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lordswoodsaints

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Manu can look all they like and I bet they would love him for £10m but I to also have dreams and i would like a Lamborghini for the price of a fiesta.

The problem is southampton fc have moved on,we are not the club we were 3 years ago and he other big teams are living in the past,they still think we are going to take it in the arse every time they come knocking......we don't need the money,we don't need to sell and they can go and flick themselves.

A nothing story based on nothing from a sh!t rag,the press want to see the best players in the country playing at the best clubs in the country,what they can't fathom is that the best young prospect in the country is already at one of the best clubs in the country COYR.

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Cabrone

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Football is a market place and every player has his price.

 

I'm sure if Man Utd stump up enough he would go but 10M is a long way off and besides, he seems to have his head screwed on and would know that a transfer to a top 4 club would probably mean a lot of time out of the team, just when he needs as much experience as possible.

 

One day he'll go (assuming we aren't having a go at champs league ourselves and with Cortese who knows) but I still think we've got him for another year or two yet.

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