Will lambert be left out?

[Roger]

Love the guy but osvaldo plays in same position and we play 1 upfront!

[Barry the Badger]

Sometimes, probably yeah.

[Wrensup]

Doubt it, play deep or osvaldo will come on as a sub I reckon for Sunderland.

I'd like to see Lambert play deep anyways.

[shurlock]

Love the guy but osvaldo plays in same position and we play 1 upfront!

 

Why are you taking your cues from a gibbering scouse drama queen (jamie carragher on Monday night football)?

[Smirking_Saint]

yep, how an earth can a club have 2 top striker who can also play deeper aaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

 

Its sort of been done to death how Adrian

[Bucks Saint]

Genuinely a major surprise that this thread was not started by Baz Sanchez

[Wade Garrett]

Don't think he will drop Lambert, but it will be interesting to see how the team lines up now.

[Whitey Grandad]

Don't think he will drop Lambert, but it will be interesting to see how the team lines up now.

 

This. It gives more options and cover in case of injuries. Exciting times

[suewhistle]

Steady with your heart WG!

[corky morris]

Dont think it changes anything. We will rotate the front 3 as we do now. Lambert, Lallana, Jay Rod, Gaston all inter change in the game Osvaldo will do exactly the same. IMHO I think he will come in for Lallana, Jay Rod or Gaston.

[Prince Jazzbo]

If they do play together, it will be interesting to see what happens if we get a penalty.

[Professor]

Rickie often falls deep and it has sometimes been JRod who has been the most forward forward. Rickie and Osvaldo will be a fearsome strike force and Pochettino will already know how he wants them to play. On the penalties, hopefully the punch up to decide the penalty taker will happen at Staplewood behind closed doors, not in front of 32,000 spectators. Can't see MP changing his penalty taker since Rickie has never missed one for the Saints in four years.

[saintbob40]

Can't see them playing together unless we go with 4 4 2 so he either will be left out a lot (as logically Osvaldo will then also be)or one of them could be asked to play deep ( i.e the middle of the 3 in the 4-2-3-1) like Rooney for Man U ( ... and that turned out well....!)-.

 

How SRL and Osvaldo would react to lengthy spells on the bench is an unknown but I would not underestimate the possibility of fireworks from either player-that's off the pitch by the way .

 

MP has a big task ahead of him and will need to quickly establish a clear programme of rotation if he is going to keep a squad motivated, happy and on side. Failing that teddys will, IMHO, be thrown....

[Whitey Grandad]

Steady with your heart WG!

 

It's ok, I have tablets for that. It's the only excitement I get. I've given up sex, it wasn't very hard

[Wes Tender]

It's ok, I have tablets for that. It's the only excitement I get. I've given up sex, it wasn't very hard

 

When it's no longer very hard, it is difficult to achieve anyway (I would imagine).

[Batman]

of course they will get plenty of time together on the pitch

[hutch]

It's ok, I have tablets for that. It's the only excitement I get. I've given up sex, it wasn't very hard

You can get tablets for that too mate.

[Under Weststand]

I don't think he will be dropped for Osvaldo as such.

However when Rickie has any slight strains etc we can rest him without fear now. Last couple of years it has been reported that he was carrying slight strains at times, but he's had to carry on playing through them.

I like the fact that we now appear to have options, & I don't doubt that we will rotate to suit opposition home & away at times.

[The9]

Genuinely a major surprise that this thread was not started by Baz Sanchez

 

Not a surprise for me, given the subject matter.

[sammysaint]

Being linked away already, all be it a poor bit of blogging, NA signed RL according to this.

 

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/08/20/west-ham-reading-keen-on-england-international-rickie-lambert/

[ottery st mary]

SRL and Osvaldo will play together..as first choices.... most if not all games when fit.

[Appy]

Lambert isn't going to go anywhere.

[Smirking_Saint]

I think Lambert will be gone next year... Unfortunately

[Cascadia Saint]

SRL and Osvaldo will play together..as first choices.... most if not all games when fit.

 

I think this is most likely.

[Appy]

I think Lambert will be gone next year... Unfortunately

 

Do you mean that unfortunately bit?

 

I agree btw.

[The9]

SRL and Osvaldo will play together..as first choices.... most if not all games when fit.

 

This season, probably, yes. There's a World Cup in the summer though, shop window and all that.

[Roger]

This season, probably, yes. There's a World Cup in the summer though, shop window and all that.

 

Oh trust you to pipe up! And you did say billy sharp would start more games last season. You can admit lamberts proved you wrong if you like!

[The9]

Oh trust you to pipe up! And you did say billy sharp would start more games last season. You can admit lamberts proved you wrong if you like!

 

You're lucky I don't post what I actually think about the situation now, I think you'd probably have a breakdown. By the way, this is my third post on this topic, you're not very observant are you ?

[Smirking_Saint]

Do you mean that unfortunately bit?

 

I agree btw.

 

I do, Ive never been against Lambert despite what people believe, Im just looking at the bigger picture and think that Ossie will fit the system better.

 

I think he will start to find his starts limited and so eventually will get frustrated and move on, he has a few years left in him.

 

The unfortunately bit is because he is such a top top bloke, has worked so hard since he left BR and is certainly up there as a Saints hero IMO. But, if the ambition is genuinely Europe then as I suspected Jos/Fonte, Cork and Lambert would need to be replaced.

 

(Cork will stay BTW, he definately still has a job to do)

[Appy]

I do, Ive never been against Lambert despite what people believe, Im just looking at the bigger picture and think that Ossie will fit the system better.

 

I think he will start to find his starts limited and so eventually will get frustrated and move on, he has a few years left in him.

 

The unfortunately bit is because he is such a top top bloke, has worked so hard since he left BR and is certainly up there as a Saints hero IMO. But, if the ambition is genuinely Europe then as I suspected Jos/Fonte, Cork and Lambert would need to be replaced.

 

(Cork will stay BTW, he definately still has a job to do)

 

Have to agree unfortunately as well, Jos and Fonte are a lot closer to the exit door than Lambert me thinks though.

[Roger]

You're lucky I don't post what I actually think about the situation now, I think you'd probably have a breakdown. By the way, this is my third post on this topic, you're not very observant are you ?

 

Observant enough to know that you have constantly talked drivel about lambert for last two years. I thought he was poor last ten games of last season other than stoke but so was j rod. Was I injured so good we brought someone in to lighten load. However, lambert is fitter than ever start of this season.

[The9]

Oh trust you to pipe up! And you did say billy sharp would start more games last season. You can admit lamberts proved you wrong if you like!

 

You know what, I've been searching for this for months to try and find what I actually said about it :

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?39554-Wigan-Build-Up&p=1450865#post1450865

 

I even repeated it later in the thread, clarifying that I said it before we signed Rodriguez "who is probably going to play more than both of them". As it happens, Rodriguez played in 37 matches, Lambert in 38, Sharp in 3. Not far off though, and Lambert's lack of injury (which was the basis of most of my expectation re: games played) was very unexpected.

Edited 21 August, 2013 by The9

[The9]

Observant enough to know that you have constantly talked drivel about lambert for last two years. I thought he was poor last ten games of last season other than stoke but so was j rod. Was I injured so good we brought someone in to lighten load. However, lambert is fitter than ever start of this season.

 

I'm observant enough to know that you never, ever, discuss his actual ability. Your defence of Lambert seems to consist of "he's a legend" and "I think he's great", as opposed to his actual skillset or any kind of tactical analysis of what he can and can't do.

 

I've been asking for us to bring in a player who can take us up a level up front since the winter transfer window in the Championship, and you've been taking it as a personal slight against Lambert every single time - the club must have thought Sharp could do it for a while, as no-one buys strikers for 6 months' use and we could have just paid a loan fee if it was just about getting us up.

 

However, we have finally got to a position where we can actually attract that player who should be able to do it all, better than anyone we already have, and I cannot wait to see if it does take us to another level. Could take a little time to settle, but all the signs are that we've just jumped a couple of league places. We haven't brought someone in to "lighten the load", we've brought someone in to replace an existing starter.

 

We're yet to see who it is (it could be Puncheon), but guillotining popular players before they get past their usefulness isn't unprecedented under the present regime, just ask Barnard, Chaplow, Sharp and Hammond.

[Black Sea Saint]

from what's been suggested on here, Osvaldo is used to playing wide supporting a front man, Totti. I can see him replacing Lallana more than SRL. I think we'll end up seeing quite a flexible front 3, with SRL, JRod and Osvaldo interchanging during games.

[Nolan]

Go on the official site and see what position they have J-Rod down as.... You may find its 'Striker'.

 

We had 2 strikers on the pitch most of last season, and we'll continue to this season. Its not inconceivable that we may start with three strikers on the field on Saturday.

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[Roger]

I'm observant enough to know that you never, ever, discuss his actual ability. Your defence of Lambert seems to consist of "he's a legend" and "I think he's great", as opposed to his actual skillset or any kind of tactical analysis of what he can and can't do.

 

I've been asking for us to bring in a player who can take us up a level up front since the winter transfer window in the Championship, and you've been taking it as a personal slight against Lambert every single time - the club must have thought Sharp could do it for a while, as no-one buys strikers for 6 months' use and we could have just paid a loan fee if it was just about getting us up.

 

However, we have finally got to a position where we can actually attract that player who should be able to do it all, better than anyone we already have, and I cannot wait to see if it does take us to another level. Could take a little time to settle, but all the signs are that we've just jumped a couple of league places. We haven't brought someone in to "lighten the load", we've brought someone in to replace an existing starter.

 

We're yet to see who it is (it could be Puncheon), but guillotining popular players before they get past their usefulness isn't unprecedented under the present regime, just ask Barnard, Chaplow, Sharp and Hammond.

 

That's where I think you're wrong. For me lambert has fab ability. I'd say his skill and vision is as good as anyone in the team. He's good in the air although I'd say he's probably better with ball at his feet.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Totti played most of last season for Roma in a deeper role I believe.

 

Personally, I think we'll see Rickie and Dani start together more often at home than away

[The9]

That's where I think you're wrong. For me lambert has fab ability. I'd say his skill and vision is as good as anyone in the team. He's good in the air although I'd say he's probably better with ball at his feet.

 

We agree. But I think we need a striker with all that and pace to threaten the top 6. Admittedly I also thought we needed one to threaten the top 6 in the Championship, but you won't find me saying Lambert hasn't been impressive, more that he's done it against the odds.

[SaintRichmond]

Don't think he will drop Lambert, but it will be interesting to see how the team lines up now.

 

I've got this sneaky feeling that AP does not think as highly of SRL as we do, and because of that, I don't think SRL will start many matches whilst Osvaldo is available. Hope to be proved wrong of course, as I share most peoples vision of SRL and the Big O forming a lethal partnership.

[The Majestic Channon]

I've got this sneaky feeling that AP does not think as highly of SRL as we do, and because of that, I don't think SRL will start many matches whilst Osvaldo is available. Hope to be proved wrong of course, as I share most peoples vision of SRL and the Big O forming a lethal partnership.

 

Well a member of my family is poch's english teacher and he said of rickie...' The best player we have' so your feeling is wrong old son

[SaintRichmond]

Well a member of my family is poch's english teacher and he said of rickie...' The best player we have' so your feeling is wrong old son

 

If that is fact, then it is great news. Thanks for that

[Saint Fan CaM]

I do wonder whether Ossie has been lined up as a replacement for Puncheon/Guly on the right. Means we've got JRod on the left and him on the right of SRL in attack...don't think we're thinking about natural wingers with the high intensity work-rate our full-backs provide. Looks like JWP has been selected as the dead-ball man too, so typical midfield attacking wingers are really not needed in Poch's game.

[trousers]

Just watching MP's pre-match press conference on Saints Player. Someone asked how Osvaldo would fit into the team with Lambert as they are "similar players".... MP said he didn't think they were that similar and that they could easily play in the same team together.

[Saint Charlie]

He also said its a long season with three competitions...Im sure Osvaldo will start instead of Lambert sometimes.

 

We have to remember he is 31 and plays a physically challenging style of game. If he wants to extend his PL career beyond 33 he will apreciate a rest every now and again.

[JoeShmoe]

He also said its a long season with three competitions...Im sure Osvaldo will start instead of Lambert sometimes.

 

We have to remember he is 31 and plays a physically challenging style of game. If he wants to extend his PL career beyond 33 he will apreciate a rest every now and again.

 

This, he looked tired in the second half at WBA, he's simply not going to play 90 mins for 40 odd games

[The9]

This, he looked tired in the second half at WBA, he's simply not going to play 90 mins for 40 odd games

 

I thought that last year (hence the Sharp/Rodriguez comments)... but either he's a phenomenon, we have superb sports science indicators and rest him at the right times, or we got really, really lucky that he wasn't injured.