Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 After seeing Rickie's fairytale England performance last night I was once again left questioning why Billy Sharp isn't being given a chance in the Prem. He's been written off before anybody's seen if he's able to deliver at this level. Rickie's performance shows that you have to give people a chance. Why are we being linked with players for silly sums of money when we have a striker that could potentially do a job for us? I'm sure plenty of people will say that he's not good enough but in all seriousness how the **** do they know. Nobody's seen him given a chance in the Premiership. Lambert has made the step up from the lower leagues, so why can't Billy do the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Lambert has made the step up from the lower leagues, so why can't Billy do the same? Because he isn't that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Why is there fourhundredtwentythirtyseven threads about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 No disrespect to Billy but he simply isn't Premiership quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 15 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Because he isn't that good? Funny that. People weren't saying that he wasn't good enough when he was rattling in the goals that helped us get back to the Premiership. Confidence plays a huge part in a strikers performance so why not give the lad a go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 15 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 August, 2013 No disrespect to Billy but he simply isn't Premiership quality No disrespect but how do you know that? If people thought RL was Premiership quality then why was there not a host of Prem clubs waiting to sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 (edited) After seeing Rickie's fairytale England performance last night I was once again left questioning why Billy Sharp isn't being given a chance in the Prem. He's been written off before anybody's seen if he's able to deliver at this level. Rickie's performance shows that you have to give people a chance. Why are we being linked with players for silly sums of money when we have a striker that could potentially do a job for us? I'm sure plenty of people will say that he's not good enough but in all seriousness how the **** do they know. Nobody's seen him given a chance in the Premiership. Lambert has made the step up from the lower leagues, so why can't Billy do the same? The club has seen what he is capable of in the Championship. That can give you an idea of what he'd be like at the next level, he's a good Championship player but doesn't have the ability to be a good Premier League player. If he really was good enough for the Premier League you'd think at the very least the newly promoted clubs like Palace, Hull and Cardiff would be interested knowing Saints want to sell, but they signed other targets. Instead Sharp was on loan in the Championship last season and this summer has attracted reported interest from Doncaster, Bournemouth and Sheff Weds. Saints are looking to push on into the top half of the Premier League. To do that they need to sign Italian internationals like Osvaldo, not use Sharp. If Saints were happy to remain in the bottom half I'm sure Sharp would be reasonable cover, but Cortese has far more ambition than that and Sharp doesn't improve the current starting XI. Edited 15 August, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Lambert was the Championship's top scorer and player of the season, and is still only 'decent' as a striker in the Prem. Quality for us, but only decent compared to the rest of the league overall. Billy Sharp was 'decent' in the Championship, not enough for the step up IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 15 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Why is there fourhundredtwentythirtyseven threads about this... Because there isn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Thing is as well it's not just us is that have decided he's not PL quality. Other premier league teams are not exactly beating our door in with offers are they? Not even the newly promoted teams. I'd love to be proved wrong, as I have a lot of time for Billy, but it seems he will be waiting a long time to get a crack in the EPL and it certainly won't be with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Nicola doesnt rate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Thing is as well it's not just us is that have decided he's not PL quality. Other premier league teams are not exactly beating our door in with offers are they? Not even the newly promoted teams. I'd love to be proved wrong, as I have a lot of time for Billy, but it seems he will be waiting a long time to get a crack in the EPL and it certainly won't be with us Look at the strikers Hull and Palace have signed, that Gayle for £8m?! Sagbo, Kevin Phillips etc. Not exactly world beaters themselves. Imagine Billy would probably be available at around what we paid for him, or a bit less ,£1-2m I guess. Surely they would take a punt, even if on loan if he were deemed up to it? It's a shame, as he is a really likable character, and with what he's been through of course you want him to succeed. But as has been said, we are looking to push on and move forwards. We have been negotiating on and off with Osvaldo all summer - this is quite a step up in terms of ability compared to Sharp I'm afraid. Thanks for those important goals Billy, but I think it is best for all to part ways here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 You can't comapare Sharp to Lambert,SRL has so many attributes to his game that make him dangerous and no disrespect to Sharp but he is not even in the same league as Lambert,would Billy of scored some of the goals Rickie did last year? the header against Man U,The pile driver against Villa,the free kick against Chelsea ??? No Chance would he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Another thread ? Adkins deemed that we had better options, and now so has MoPo. Im sure if he had the quality a newly promoted team or a top NPC team would be in for him.... They're not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 If he really wants to make the grade, he needs to go out on loan to somewhere like G's to get experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 No disrespect but how do you know that? If people thought RL was Premiership quality then why was there not a host of Prem clubs waiting to sign him? Because of his age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 A ridiculous thread about a subject that has been more than overplayed. Billy Sharp did a fantastic job for us but he is a "pretty good" championship player. He had a good season with us and scored some crucial goals but he never looked head and shoulders above the rest so he was allowed to go out on loan when we hit the prem and his impact with forest surely proves that it was the correct move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 After seeing Rickie's fairytale England performance last night I was once again left questioning why Billy Sharp isn't being given a chance in the Prem. He's been written off before anybody's seen if he's able to deliver at this level. Rickie's performance shows that you have to give people a chance. Why are we being linked with players for silly sums of money when we have a striker that could potentially do a job for us? I'm sure plenty of people will say that he's not good enough but in all seriousness how the **** do they know. Nobody's seen him given a chance in the Premiership. Lambert has made the step up from the lower leagues, so why can't Billy do the same? He has a poor touch, can't pass, is not quick nor good in the air. He is a good finisher but clearly not an elite level player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Stupid thread by stupid poster with history of stupid posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Stupid thread by stupid poster with history of stupid posts. Oh come on, give us a clue. Narrow it down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Average champ striker with an underdog hero status, just like Chaplow, Wotton and countless other fan favourites that may have had one or two stand out moments but was consistently deeply average at best 80% of the time. Sharp carried the team once, at home to Donny, exactly the same way he carried the team when we went to Donny and lost. That alone cannot be enough for a chance in the premier league and everyone bar a few deluded fans can see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 He has a poor touch, can't pass, is not quick nor good in the air. He is a good finisher but clearly not an elite level player. That is far far too generous. His career record suggests that he isn't that good a finisher. Yes he will always get a few goals at Champioship level (and indeed thanks for those) and can be more prolific at Legaue 1 standard but that's it. When asked to do it regularly in the upper levels of the Championshiphe just hasn't shown the required consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinger Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 It's enough for me to know that neither of the managers we've had in the Prem have thought him good enough, and they've seen him play/train more than any of the rest of us. Also, and more knowledgeable people will correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't 'giving Sharp a chance' necessitate giving him a squad place? That would make it a considerably bigger gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 do we need another billy sharp thread? he isnt very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Sharp is obviously available for transfer so the question you should be asking yourself is why no other club is giving him his chance in the PL either. I mean at less than 2 million there are a few clubs who might give him a go if they thought he was good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Average champ striker with an underdog hero status, just like Chaplow, Wotton and countless other fan favourites that may have had one or two stand out moments but was consistently deeply average at best 80% of the time. Sharp carried the team once, at home to Donny, exactly the same way he carried the team when we went to Donny and lost. That alone cannot be enough for a chance in the premier league and everyone bar a few deluded fans can see it. Was Wotton ever a fans favourite ? Easily one of the worst Saints players Ive ever seen live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 If there is an argument to be made for Sharpy to be given a chance in the PL, its this. We moved heaven and earth to get him here, when he clearly didn't want to move here. Remember the interviews when he signed? It wasn't a transfer he wanted to make imho, Donny needed the money and we wanted a good poacher. What I'd like to know is what was he told to convince him. If it was "we need you to do a job getting us over the promotion line, you'll get a great wage while youre here but once we're up, you're gone.." then thats fair enough. If, however, the line was"we're getting promoted with your assistance, then you'll be part of a prem side," thats different altogether. I cant help thinking he's been hard done by here, regardless of his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 The same reason we aren't giving a Hammond a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 The same reason we aren't giving a Hammond a chance? probably, the thing is nowadays with all the sports science, video perfomance analysis and those little GPS vests that they wear in training from time to time coaches and analysts can see exactly what are the flaws in a player's game. They then suggest to him what he needs to do to correct said faults and I'd suppose if he isn't capable of doing what's asked of him on the training field and practice matches then he gets farmed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Sharp is obviously available for transfer so the question you should be asking yourself is why no other club is giving him his chance in the PL either. I mean at less than 2 million there are a few clubs who might give him a go if they thought he was good enough. Good point, Palace are looking for a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Good point, Palace are looking for a forward. As I mentioned above, they have already spent £8m on Dwight Gayle & bought in Kevin Phillips permanently. Probably could have signed Sharp 4 times for the fee of Gayle. Instead they go for someone barely even proven at Championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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