mcbendy Posted 14 August, 2013 Share Posted 14 August, 2013 Please say this is true (assuming we are signing LB cover for Shaw) http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/332543/Southampton-s-Danny-Fox-set-to-join-Bolton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 August, 2013 Share Posted 14 August, 2013 The only cover then would be Matt Targett. We need more then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 14 August, 2013 Share Posted 14 August, 2013 Surely a lb would be in before we let Fox go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 14 August, 2013 Share Posted 14 August, 2013 I very much doubt we'd let him go unless we've got another left back in the bag. Tabloid nothingness at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 August, 2013 Share Posted 14 August, 2013 Total rubbish. He is good enough as second choice left back for a mid to lower Prem team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 14 August, 2013 Share Posted 14 August, 2013 Total rubbish. He is good enough as second choice left back for a mid to lower Prem team. Maybe he wants to move back up north? He was at Burnley before us which is literally just down the road from Bolton. Tbf if we've got a LB lined up already then I say let him go. Don't want to be overly negative but don't think he's good enough defensively to come in and cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 August, 2013 Share Posted 14 August, 2013 If that's true (big IF) I would assume the plan is for Chambers to cover right back and Clyne to cover left back. If Shaw and Clyne both get injured we can play the "which CB is worst in the middle" game and dump one of them out there (worked so well with Yoshida). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 August, 2013 Share Posted 14 August, 2013 We've got a replacement lined up. No doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 14 August, 2013 Share Posted 14 August, 2013 Ask Alan Nixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Daily Star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Fox is not a good enough back up in our current guise IMO, teams expose his weaknesses all too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Please let this be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 *crosses fingers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Can't see Bolton affording a million plus his wages. Not a good deal for them and no way Fox would drop his salary to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Total rubbish. He is good enough as second choice left back for a mid to lower Prem team. Yep, agreed with that and that is just where we are atm. IF we want to step up then there would be several other players who would not make the grade of a top 6 PL team. Really don't the Fox 'hate' on here, it is quite laughable at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 I wonder who the new target will be for the moronic boo boys now then? Guly and Fonte - don't get enough playing time? Gaston - worth a punt? Hooiveld - good shout? So get your money out Morlocks, i'm sure someone will run a book on it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 The ultra reliable Alan Nixon says story is untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Yep, agreed with that and that is just where we are atm. IF we want to step up then there would be several other players who would not make the grade of a top 6 PL team. Really don't the Fox 'hate' on here, it is quite laughable at times. I don't hate Fox at all, but I do have eyes, and what I saw of him last season was enough to convince me that if it becomes necessary for him to have a prolonged run in the first team this season then we can kiss goodbye to any chance of a top half finish because he will cost us a lot of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 The ultra reliable Alan Nixon says story is untrue. Well it´s in Bolton and other Championship clubs he has contacts. When it comes to foreign players though he is clueless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Dreams come true. Lambert last night. Fox to leave for £1m must be true then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Great news, lets get shot and get Ironside in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 I would prefer Clyne or Yoshi at LB than Fox. Games he played last season he looked like he didnt have a clue. Wouldnt be surprised to see Cork get a few games at RB this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 I would prefer Clyne or Yoshi at LB than Fox. Games he played last season he looked like he didnt have a clue. Wouldnt be surprised to see Cork get a few games at RB this season. I would prefer Brian Potter at left back than Danny Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadjg Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 please let this be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 I would prefer Brian Potter at left back than Danny Fox. I giggled, and that is wrong. Garlic bread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 I cannot see Bolton paying his wages (as we have seen with Billy Sharpe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Maybe a loan move until he sees off his contract, like Hammond and Sharp? I can't see us getting rid of once-useful players any other way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Chris @cj_garrett 1h @reluctantnicko Any Southampton in/outs looming Alan? Still some players to move on? Hammond, Sharp, Lee, Barnard? Osvaldo in? Expand Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko Protected account 1h @cj_garrett Want to move a few out. Fox, Sharp etc. Not easy. I wonder if we have someone lined up that will only join if Fox goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 The only cover then would be Matt Targett. We need more then that. We'd have said that about Shaw last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Interesting if we want to get rid of fox Will almost certainly get someone else in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 We'd have said that about Shaw last year But Shaw was with the first team in preseason and training all the way. Targett is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 We'd have said that about Shaw last year Not really as at least Shaw had been involved in the first team squad by this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 We can only hope this is true...sell Fox and buy a proper left back...Cissoko from Valencia please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 We can only hope this is true...sell Fox and buy a proper left back...Cissoko from Valencia please He's not going to play second fiddle to an 18 year old. I personally feel we're after a utility defender, who can cover full back and CB. Would make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 In The Times today we are linked with Frederik Sørensen again......could be something in this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 In The Times today we are linked with Frederik Sørensen again......could be something in this Call me a snob, but I'd put more stock in a Times report than one from the Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 ..double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Barry in the 3rd person has been correct all along, 1) We need to overpay to get quality players to come here. 2) Thats still no guarantee. 3) We have needed a utility full back for over a year. 4) Danny Fox is useless. 5) If we get rid of him its as good as a new signing in irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 He's not going to play second fiddle to an 18 year old. probably right in this case, but there will be players of quality out there happy to get a big Premiership wage and who rate them self enough to possibly be selected ahead of Shaw, especially if he goes through a flat patch which all players do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Reality is...Shaw is barely 18...an established left back will definitely play 15-20 games even if Shaw is on top of his game it's a squad game and if the money is right...player will move...Fox is a weak link and needs to be upgraded...end of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Reality is...Shaw is barely 18...an established left back will definitely play 15-20 games even if Shaw is on top of his game it's a squad game and if the money is right...player will move...Fox is a weak link and needs to be upgraded...end of still think it will be the other way round if we feel the need to sign another left back. For me Shaw is still defensively a bit green on the edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 15 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 August, 2013 "For me Shaw is still defensively a bit green on the edges." I agree - he is great and has great potential, but if you look at some of the goals that we conceded in preseason without rose-tinted spectacles it is clear that he could have done better. e.g. the header against the Spanish waiters... I see no harm in having a bit of genuine competition for this place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 15 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 15 August, 2013 (edited) double post. I love Rickie Lambert. There. I said it. Edited 15 August, 2013 by mcbendy Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 "For me Shaw is still defensively a bit green on the edges." I agree - he is great and has great potential, but if you look at some of the goals that we conceded in preseason without rose-tinted spectacles it is clear that he could have done better. e.g. the header against the Spanish waiters... I see no harm in having a bit of genuine competition for this place... Something that will get better with experience, unfortunately we can do nothing but wait there. The goal we conceded away to Wigan still infuriates me, what on earth was he doing...that win would have been massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_punt Posted 15 August, 2013 Share Posted 15 August, 2013 Call me a snob, but I'd put more stock in a Times report than one from the Star. Kn0b, There, happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 I would prefer Brian Potter at left back than Danny Fox. Sweet Baby Jesus and the orphans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 Suprised people are not more worried about Chambers at right back. Just because he has come through our youth set up does not mean he will make it in the Premiership. Fox is not as bad as people on here make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 When Fox first joined, I have a Twitter conversation with a Burnley fan about his qualities. Was told he was a good crosser, had a decent free kick, but was dodgy defensively and was likely to make challenges that'd get him sent off. I'd agree with that assessment. Seems like a decent enough chap, but was never entirely convinced with him at Championship level, and I find myself subconsciously downgrading our chances when he's on the pitch. Didn't matter as much in the Championship because often, the talent wasn't there to either expose him or capitalise on any blunders, but it's deadly in the Prem. I watched the highlights of the Real Sociedad game, and while it was good to see us eventually triumph, seeing the defensive problems sent shivers down my spine. Not blaming Fox for those goals, but he does add an element of defensive uncertainty. He'd probably be the weakest player in any realistic back four you played him with. I've seen the arguments made about the difficulties of signing a left back, that no-one is going to play second fiddle to a seventeen year old. Shaw is early on in his development. He may have Bale-like aspirations to play further up the pitch, and it'd certainly suit Pochettino's aims of pressing high. That could leave the door open for a decent left back, and leave us with genuine options in terms of formations and cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 16 August, 2013 Share Posted 16 August, 2013 When Fox first joined, I have a Twitter conversation with a Burnley fan about his qualities. Was told he was a good crosser, had a decent free kick, but was dodgy defensively and was likely to make challenges that'd get him sent off. I'd agree with that assessment. Seems like a decent enough chap, but was never entirely convinced with him at Championship level, and I find myself subconsciously downgrading our chances when he's on the pitch. Didn't matter as much in the Championship because often, the talent wasn't there to either expose him or capitalise on any blunders, but it's deadly in the Prem. I watched the highlights of the Real Sociedad game, and while it was good to see us eventually triumph, seeing the defensive problems sent shivers down my spine. Not blaming Fox for those goals, but he does add an element of defensive uncertainty. He'd probably be the weakest player in any realistic back four you played him with. I've seen the arguments made about the difficulties of signing a left back, that no-one is going to play second fiddle to a seventeen year old. Shaw is early on in his development. He may have Bale-like aspirations to play further up the pitch, and it'd certainly suit Pochettino's aims of pressing high. That could leave the door open for a decent left back, and leave us with genuine options in terms of formations and cover. I've got footage of Fox playing for Saints but wearing another teams kit. Just because the Saints fans didn't notice, doesn't mean it didn't happen. He actually scored the winning goal of the match, even though the press reported that Saints won the match. ****ing loonies, you cant fool us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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