Wiggles31 Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 (edited) Finally the first game of the season. Last seasons boogie team who probably had their two easiest wins of the season against us. No Lukaku for them who as we all know tore our defence a new one. I reckon we'll nick a point for this one 2-2 with Wanyama scoring the equaliser on his league debut late on. Team for me: Boruc Clyne (if fit) Lovren Maya Fox Cork Schniederlin Puncheon Wanyama JRod Lambert Subs: Davis, Guly, Ward-Prowse, Mayuka, Ramirez, Lallana, Chambers Ramirez and Lallana 2nd half subs to open the game up a bit more. For those wanting to know more about the Baggies please refer to the genius scouting report completed by Bearsy: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?46020-Scouting-Report-West-Bromwich-Albion COYR! Edited 11 August, 2013 by Wiggles31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 I don't think Wanyama will play in the hole. I'd take a guess at Boruc Clyne - Yoshi - Lovren - Fox Wanyama - Morgan JRod - Guly - Lallana Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Boruc; Clyne Lovren Yoshi Fox; Morgan Wanyama; JRod Gaston Lallana; Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Surprised if Yoshida and Ramirez start or feature given they're playing in a friendly in Japan on the Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Surprised if Yoshida and Ramirez start or feature given they're playing in a friendly in Japan on the Thursday. Good point. Probably Lovren and Jos in at the back in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 11 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Surprised if Yoshida and Ramirez start or feature given they're playing in a friendly in Japan on the Thursday. Forgot about that actually. Utter stupidity from FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Surprised if Yoshida and Ramirez start or feature given they're playing in a friendly in Japan on the Thursday. Didn't realise that was Thursday. How ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Think it'll be the team that started on Saturday TBH (injuries permitting)... Boruc Chambers (Clyne) Lovren Hooiveld Fox (Shaw) Wanyama Schneiderlin Lallana Guly JayRod * Lambert * The front four swapped positions throughout the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 - - - - - - Boruc Chambers - Lovren - Hooiveld - Fox - - Wanyama - - Schneiderlin Lallana - - Guly - - Rodriguez - - - - - Lambert Judging on performances yesterday i think that will be the team, Im also taking into account Yoshida and Ramirez will both playing a international match in Japan and the late start to pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Think it'll be the team that started on Saturday TBH (injuries permitting)... Boruc Chambers (Clyne) Lovren Hooiveld Fox (Shaw) Wanyama Schneiderlin Lallana Guly JayRod * Lambert * The front four swapped positions throughout the first half. HaHa snap! The front four did play well and had alot of movement between them same reason for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Japan-Uruguay is played wednesday 11:20am UK time. http://www.skybet.com/football/international-friendlies/event/15534900 Still a long travel so Ramirez and Yoshida is unlikely to start the game, hence why neither did it yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Boruc Chambers Dejan Jos Fox Morgan Wanyama Lallana Guly JRod Lambert So basically the team that's already been mentioned. Judging from last season I think Pochettino prefers Jos to Yoshida in the other centre back spot. I disagree with the OP's bench though - only Chambers as a sub defensively? Even if that team is correct (which it won't be) one of Fonte or Jos would be on the bench. Looking forward to this - although unlike last season when we had pretty much nothing to lose (and a hard start), I'm rather more apprehensive about this season. Sign a striker by September 2nd (and even a bonus creative midfielder) and I'd be a lot less nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 These teams all look pretty decent but there is one recurring theme that makes me shudder every time I see it... XYZ XYZ XYZ JOS FOX XYZ XYZ XYZ XYZ XYZ XYZ Those 2 playing alongside each other are giving me giving hauntingly crisp memories of early last season and the Newcastle away game. Please don't let this happen MoPo. Would rather play Yoshida despite his lack of fitness. A 60% fit Yoshida is 10x better than Hoof-veld, sorry, Hooiveld. Fox doesn't worry me. Does a solid backup job. For 2/3 games he'll be fine as long as he plays alongside a competent LCB. Alongside Hooiveld - teams will have a field day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Japan-Uruguay is played wednesday 11:20am UK time. http://www.skybet.com/football/international-friendlies/event/15534900 Still a long travel so Ramirez and Yoshida is unlikely to start the game, hence why neither did it yesterday. My mistake - good spot. As you say, a long way to travel and probably why they didn't feature yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Finally the first game of the season. Last seasons boogie team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 11 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Horrendous typo from me! Blame the Stella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 (edited) Has Fox's suspension expired in time for this game then? ----------------BORUC---------------- CLYNE----LOVREN----HOOIVELD----FOX -----------BIGVIC----MORGAN--------- JAYROD--------LALLANA----------GULY ---------------LAMBERT--------------- Subs: K.Davis, Chambers, Fonte, Cork, S.Davis, Puncheon, Mayuka If Clyne isn't fit then Chambers in at RB. Guly playing left to offer cover for Fox, hopefully then he won't get caught out of position too much. Edited 11 August, 2013 by SuperMikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Horrendous typo from me! Blame the Stella. You can't spell 'bogey' but you can spell 'horrendous'? That Stella really is special As for the lineup I think makr27 got it right - Jos, Fox and Guly will all start against WBA. That will leave a very divided group of boo boys who are spoilt for choice. Heck, Lallana's there too and Ramirez will probably also play a part. So many boos, so little time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 Has Fox's suspension expired in time for this game then? It was a 3 match ban and he and Ramirez missed the Tottenham, Sunderland and Stoke games at the end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 You can't spell 'bogey' but you can spell 'horrendous'? That Stella really is special As for the lineup I think makr27 got it right - Jos, Fox and Guly will all start against WBA. That will leave a very divided group of boo boys who are spoilt for choice. Heck, Lallana's there too and Ramirez will probably also play a part. So many boos, so little time Boo boys being players who aren't actually booed but who are often criticised for their obvious faults? Perhaps your last sentence should read, 'no actual boos whatsoever, so little time.' Interesting how if someone has a negative opinion of a player it's an opinion, however if a large number of people happen to share that opinion, the player then becomes a boo boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 August, 2013 Share Posted 11 August, 2013 It was a 3 match ban and he and Ramirez missed the Tottenham, Sunderland and Stoke games at the end of last season. Thanks MLG, I was hoping you'd pop up and answer that question. It feels like so long ago now, I couldn't remember how many games he was out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 I wouldn't rule out an chartered overnighter after the game, back in UK Thursday morning. There will be more than just Gaston & Maya keen to get back to the UK after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 Boo boys being players who aren't actually booed but who are often criticised for their obvious faults? Perhaps your last sentence should read, 'no actual boos whatsoever, so little time.' Interesting how if someone has a negative opinion of a player it's an opinion, however if a large number of people happen to share that opinion, the player then becomes a boo boy. Hey, stop ruining my unreasonable generalisations! Fwiw, I actually meant people booing at the stadium, not criticising online. But now I'm unsure how many of the players I mentioned that have actually been booed (IRL )? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 Premier League @premierleague Kevin Friend has been appointed referee for West Bromwich Albion v Southampton on Saturday August 17th. #WBASOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 12 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 August, 2013 Premier League @premierleague Kevin Friend has been appointed referee for West Bromwich Albion v Southampton on Saturday August 17th. #WBASOU Which games of ours did he do last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 Which games of ours did he do last season? Southampton Saints@SaintsRumoursKevin Friend is the referee for the game against West Brom, Southampton have never won a game that he has refereed. #saintsfc Don't know which games .... but it would be nice to get that little monkey off our backs to start the season off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 boruc chambers lovren hooiveld fox wanyama morgan lallana davis rodriguez lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 Which games of ours did he do last season? Our heaviest defeat... the 6-1 at the Emirates...! http://www.soccerbase.com/referees/referee.sd?referee_id=865 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 Could be a massive one for Chambers.. Looked good on Sat, if not a little inexperienced.. Nce to see us bringing another youngster through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 I'm really against splitting up Morgan and Cork. That was the biggest positive of our team last season and people seem happy to ditch it. Morgan was outstanding, but don't underestimate how much of that comes down to a successful partnership. No way does Cork deserve to be dropped. Hope we go fairly solid and play all 3, hopefully hard to beat. Boruc Chambers Lovren Yoshida Fox Cork Morgan Wanyama JRod Lambert Lallana Really could be difficult if Yoshi isn't fit, basically the reserve defence plus a new signing. Hopefully Cork can help out at right back though. Still think that side would give them a really good game. Be very happy with a draw though, it's still a tough place to go. I agree. Cork has done nothing to deserve being dropped so quickly. I hope he finds room for all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 Yep I agree. Cork and Morgan coming together was hugely important to us last year, surprised how many people don't seem to appreciate how well Cork did last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 All true about Cork, but this pre-season has made it pretty clear we'll be starting of with a first choice of Schneiderlin and Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentsaint Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 I want to see j rod isolate lugano one on one as he is immobile and struggles against pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentry Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 I want to see j rod isolate lugano one on one as he is immobile and struggles against pace. Lugano may not start but all their defence is slow, I sit next to a WBA season ticket holder and he thinks Olson may be one of the slowest players in the league, if not the slowest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 August, 2013 Share Posted 12 August, 2013 Lugano may not start but all their defence is slow, I sit next to a WBA season ticket holder and he thinks Olson may be one of the slowest players in the league, if not the slowest. Must be fighting with Hooiveld for that title then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 13 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 13 August, 2013 Can we sticky this please mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 How's Guly been pre-season then? Turned up this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 Seems so, but I think that will cost us. Both good players but partnerships don't come easily and we had a great one. Agreed. It is a gamble and one that will only pay off if Wanyama is able to replicate Cork's partnership with Schneiderlin and match his defensive work while chipping in with the attacking contribution that Cork lacked. Trying to think back to Saturday's game, was it Wanyama that wad dispossessed for their 2nd goal and easily bypassed for their 3rd? He's got a lot to live up to, but I guess that's what makes top Premier League players and teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 WBAFCofficial @WBAFCofficial Albion have signed Udinese striker Matej Vydra (@vydra_92) on a season-long loan. pic.twitter.com/nNcjIZTxAn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 WBAFCofficial @WBAFCofficial Albion have signed Udinese striker Matej Vydra (@vydra_92) on a season-long loan. pic.twitter.com/nNcjIZTxAn That's a good signing, but again, if he ends up a superstar it's just another loan. Seems so, but I think that will cost us. Both good players but partnerships don't come easily and we had a great one. For what it's worth Schneiderlin and Wanyama seem to have gelled very quickly. Looked on the ball against Sociedad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 MP and NC seem to be treating Cork appalingly. We let 3 goals in at home on Saturday so difficult to see that Schneiderlin and Wanyama as defensive mids " have gelled very quickly". To me VW looks to be too heavy and cumbersome and his feet are very, very slow.... With no Cork and no Shaw it feels a lot like the start of last season. The only saving grace is that we have got an easier start and may scramble a few points early on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastón10 Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 I would start with: Boruc Clyne(If fit), Lovren, Fonte,Fox Schneiderlin, Wanyama Puncheon, Lallana, Rodriguez Lambert The Wanyama and Schneiderlin partnership in midfield looked really good against Real Sociedad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 We let 3 goals in at home on Saturday so difficult to see that Schneiderlin and Wanyama as defensive mids " have gelled very quickly". Two of the goals resulted from long balls which the defence failed to deal with and the third was a goalkeeping error from Davis. Not sure how that implicates Schneiderlin and Wanyama... They both had a good game and look very comfortable playing together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 MP and NC seem to be treating Cork appalingly. We let 3 goals in at home on Saturday so difficult to see that Schneiderlin and Wanyama as defensive mids " have gelled very quickly". To me VW looks to be too heavy and cumbersome and his feet are very, very slow.... With no Cork and no Shaw it feels a lot like the start of last season. The only saving grace is that we have got an easier start and may scramble a few points early on... I think the issue with Cork was one I spotted last season, and probably wasn't alone with it. Whilst Cork worked his socks off and in games, Swansea away springs to mind, he looked like he had been cloned and there were 2 of him on the pitch, it just seemed like when the 18yrd box homed into view it was protected by an invisible Jack Cork force field that made him dither and dally, the crowd would see a gap and scream for him to shoot but invariably he would pass to someone else after a bit of thought, by which time the opposition had organised themselves after having been carved open by our quick attacking play. Morgan by comparison would just steam on. So maybe in Wanyama they have seen a player who coupled with Morgan possibly makes our midfield a bit more of an attacking force on 2 fronts which is in keeping with the style Pochettino likes to play. And going on Saturdays game that looks like the Brazilian ethos of you score 3 we'll score 4 might become a feature of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 And going on Saturdays game that looks like the Brazilian ethos of you score 3 we'll score 4 might become a feature of the season. I very much doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 (edited) We'd been more solid and tough to beat with Davis ahead of Cork/Morgan. I thought that's where VW would play, adding more power and goal threat. That would be a real improvement to the team. The likely line-up seems very attacking for an away game and a big change in the centre. Whoever is playing in front of the CMs has a big job to do. Looks like Guly might start too which I find odd when Puncheon is available. Better defensive cover? He is much better at tracking back then Adam/Punch and Danny Fox will need all the help he can get. Stoke away last year springs to mind. He was immense that day ( Until his open goal miss that turned the game, he was shot after that.) Edited 13 August, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 I'd hope that if we start a weakened defence with no Clyne, Yoshida or Shaw that MP would start Wanyama, Cork and Morgan in a 4-3-3 formation - would certainly make us harder to get through, and Morgan could probably push up if needed. The front line looked good and fluid against Real Sociedad, I think Puncheon could be our super-sub for this season, and would be a great injection of pace against an already-sluggish defence after 65 minutes of play. Would be good to see Isgrove get a bit of game time too, can see him doing well against WBA's style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 -------------------Boruc -----------Lovren Yosh Fonte -----Wanyama Schneiderlin Cork Puncheon----------------------Rodriguez -----------------Ramirez -----------------Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 -------------------Boruc -----------Lovren Yosh Fonte -----Wanyama Schneiderlin Cork Puncheon----------------------Rodriguez -----------------Ramirez -----------------Lambert A perfect formation to counter West Bromwich Albion, who famously play all their players down the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 13 August, 2013 Share Posted 13 August, 2013 A perfect formation to counter West Bromwich Albion, who famously play all their players down the middle. I neither know whether you're being sarcastic, or care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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