Tommy Forecast finally finds his calling...

[Andre]

Couldn't see a topic on it...

 

Tommy Forecast has signed a deal with Conference South club Chelmsford City. What a drop!

[Bananaman]

is a tragedy how rich he probably is

[scotty]

is a tragedy how rich he probably is

 

A tragedy for who? He's probably well chuffed.

[hypochondriac]

is a tragedy how rich he probably is

 

Why? He is extremely lucky but he didn't force anyone to give him a contract.

[Benali Saint]

Poor Chelmsford

[The9]

Seems strange that he was offered a deal by Gillingham but chose to do this instead, though he probably never needs to work again anyway.

 

If anything I think he's still above his actual level, given his lack of success on loan with non-league clubs like Thurrock.

[Bananaman]

Why? He is extremely lucky but he didn't force anyone to give him a contract.

 

Because his massively over inflated wages were paid by the club and therefore the supporters... during our most difficult financial times supporters buying crap like the FA Cup anniversary shirt and putting money into collection buckets to try and keep the club alive. People getting laid off and this guy taking a huge wage each month. Your opinions are your own but he bought nothing to the club and knew he had no future here but sat around for 5 years taking big wages. I just find it a little sickening as somebody who tries to put money into the club...

[Pwoite]

Seems strange that he was offered a deal by Gillingham but chose to do this instead, though he probably never needs to work again anyway.

 

He might have been with us four years, but I doubt we were ever paying him that much, surely? Even if he was on £5k a week, that's a million, and at his age that won't be enough to see him out. Fifty years on £20k, excluding property.

[Saints boy in Leeds]

Made me chuckle...

 

On 13 August 2009 Forecast joined Grimsby Town on a one-month loan following an injury to Town's first-choice goalkeeper Nick Colgan. Forecast made his full professional debut the following day for Grimsby against Crewe Alexandra in a 4–0 defeat, The Crewe Chronicle described Forecast's debut as "one of the most shockingly inept displays the Football League has ever seen". Grimsby sent Forecast back early from his loan spell on 3 September after failing to impress in his four games with The Mariners

[warsash saint]

To think I helped fund this goons 'career'. Depressing to think how many years it would tak me to own what saints have paid him!!

[sentry]

Because his massively over inflated wages were paid by the club and therefore the supporters... during our most difficult financial times supporters buying crap like the FA Cup anniversary shirt and putting money into collection buckets to try and keep the club alive. People getting laid off and this guy taking a huge wage each month. Your opinions are your own but he bought nothing to the club and knew he had no future here but sat around for 5 years taking big wages. I just find it a little sickening as somebody who tries to put money into the club...

 

And would you of done differently? If say in your choosen profession they offer you a 5 year contract on 'x' amount each month you would turn it down if the company were doing not so well?

[Pugwash]

Even worse to think he was a makeweight in the deal for Gareth Bale - shortly to be the world's most expensive footballer. Great deal there, Rupes - a hell of a negotiation.

 

Levy must have split his sides laughing.

[bjk]

Not his fault Tottenham must of seen something in him as did we.Good luck to him.

[RedAndWhite91]

Did a quick search on here as I remembered something from a couple of years ago, here's the OP:

 

Was just in 90 degrees, he's probably the most ego-tistical person i've ever seen, acting like a complete nob.

 

He got in multiple fights before he headed outside and he got a broken nose then he punched a women... totally deserved a slap... hope he leaves in the summer

 

That was in 2011, after he had joined all the victorious players in celebrating promotion in front of the fans, despite contributing f*ck all to the cause!

 

Tommy Forecast is a waste of space, still think Conference South is too high a level for him.

[Cabrone]

Made me chuckle...

 

On 13 August 2009 Forecast joined Grimsby Town on a one-month loan following an injury to Town's first-choice goalkeeper Nick Colgan. Forecast made his full professional debut the following day for Grimsby against Crewe Alexandra in a 4–0 defeat, The Crewe Chronicle described Forecast's debut as "one of the most shockingly inept displays the Football League has ever seen". Grimsby sent Forecast back early from his loan spell on 3 September after failing to impress in his four games with The Mariners

 

I wish I'd seen him play, he must have been catastrophically bad to have got that review.

 

Bale for Forecast, has there ever been a transfer in the history of football where the ability of the swapped players was as wide as these two.

 

Rupert L**e

 

 

[Gorgiesaint]

I wish I'd seen him play, he must have been catastrophically bad to have got that review.Bale for Forecast, has there ever been a transfer in the history of football where the ability of the swapped players was as wide as these two.Rupert L**e:lol:

Swapped players, don't try and re-write it into something its not. He was make-weight in removing any future add-on's from the Bale sale, at a time when we needed cash there & then, not in 6 months time. In hindsight, it was a terrible deal, but the alternative might have been administration much earlier than it happened - and who know if Markus & Nicola would have stepped in? Laugh all you want, but remember SISU were sniffing around at that time - we could've avoided Forecast and done a Coventry instead...

[The9]

Seems strange that he was offered a deal by Gillingham but chose to do this instead, though he probably never needs to work again anyway.

 

He might have been with us four years, but I doubt we were ever paying him that much, surely? Even if he was on £5k a week, that's a million, and at his age that won't be enough to see him out. Fifty years on £20k, excluding property.

 

It's a million quid in 5 years, unless he's bought himself a million quid's worth of junk and doesn't have any of it left, he could probably live comfortably off the interest and investments alone without having to put a dent in the money itself. It's a lot more than £20k over 50 years.

Edited 11 August, 2013 by The9

[buctootim]

He must have had something at some point otherwise Spurs wouldn't have had him the academy. Obviously not everyone turns out to be a world beater but an academy product from the PL should at least have enough about them to get a place in a football league team. Odd one.

[The Kraken]

It's a million quid in 5 years, unless he's bought himself a million quid's worth of junk and doesn't have any of it left, he could probably live comfortably off the interest and investments alone without having to put a dent in the money itself. It's a lot more than £20k over 50 years.

Whatever he was on he'd have lost a good load of it to tax, so its nowhere near a million quid after that (if he was even on that much in the first place, which I somehow doubt). Plus he was a young man who probably thought it would last forever and he likely frittered a lot of it away. He'll have done well out of us, no doubt, but I don't quite understand the levels of bitterness and jealousy on here about it, we've had plenty of other sponges associated with the club who have taken much more out of it than a daft young bloke who turned out to be a bit sh*t.

[The9]

Whatever he was on he'd have lost a good load of it to tax, so its nowhere near a million quid after that (if he was even on that much in the first place, which I somehow doubt). Plus he was a young man who probably thought it would last forever and he likely frittered a lot of it away. He'll have done well out of us, no doubt, but I don't quite understand the levels of bitterness and jealousy on here about it, we've had plenty of other sponges associated with the club who have taken much more out of it than a daft young bloke who turned out to be a bit sh*t.

 

Don't forget his PFA pension from, what, aged 30? too...

 

I don't get the bitterness either, he was crap, did nothing for the club, happened to also cost the club a fortune (not really his fault) and I don't particularly wish him well because all indications are he's actually a bit of a d1ck, but he had a contract and that's that.

 

Moaning about the amount of money and everything beyond that is just jealousy that he managed to land a dream job with apparently little in the way of qualifications, and I bet there aren't many here who'd look a gift horse in the mouth.

[oldskoolsi]

Don't forget his PFA pension from, what, aged 30? too...

 

I don't get the bitterness either, he was crap, did nothing for the club, happened to also cost the club a fortune (not really his fault) and I don't particularly wish him well because all indications are he's actually a bit of a d1ck, but he had a contract and that's that.

 

Moaning about the amount of money and everything beyond that is just jealousy that he managed to land a dream job with apparently little in the way of qualifications, and I bet there aren't many here who'd look a gift horse in the mouth.

 

I've said before he must have known he was crap and still took the money. I would like to think to think that he got little job satisfaction from hardly playing. I have no problem with people taking jobs just for money and sticking it out. But taking a job you know you are no good at, just for money, for 5 years. Sorry but no, I would like to think i have more self respect than that. Trouble is, football is football.

[The Kraken]

I've said before he must have known he was crap and still took the money. I would like to think to think that he got little job satisfaction from hardly playing. I have no problem with people taking jobs just for money and sticking it out. But taking a job you know you are no good at, just for money, for 5 years. Sorry but no, I would like to think i have more self respect than that. Trouble is, football is football.

No-one in their right mind would do that. No-one. And nor should they; he got given a contract, the club never came up with a solution to buy him out of it so he's fully entitled to see it out.

[Turkish]

I've said before he must have known he was crap and still took the money. I would like to think to think that he got little job satisfaction from hardly playing. I have no problem with people taking jobs just for money and sticking it out. But taking a job you know you are no good at, just for money, for 5 years. Sorry but no, I would like to think i have more self respect than that. Trouble is, football is football.

 

So you're saying if saints offered you a five year deal on £10k a week you'd turn it down?

[The9]

So you're saying if saints offered you a five year deal on £10k a week you'd turn it down?

 

You always turn down the first offer, right ?

 

For the record, I'd take both their arms off.

[melmacian_saint]

You could tell it was going to happen. First Martin Allen said he was going to offer him a deal, then he "just" allowed him to be part of Gillingham's preseason, and finally he left as they began to play competitively.

 

Apparently he was "popular" in the dressing room, my guess is Allen didn't actually mean it and everyone was just keeping a straight face at the Priestfield whenever he was around.

 

Lucky man, but from what I gather he is not the type of person that would've spent the last 5 years cashing-in and saving on the best contract of his career. Chances are his living standards will become unsustainable.

 

Also if MLG's FM13 research is to be taken seriously, he was probably on around 2.5k/week after all the collective promotion bonuses (his lack of participation probably means he only got a small increase).

Edited 11 August, 2013 by melmacian_saint

[Bananaman]

And would you of done differently? If say in your choosen profession they offer you a 5 year contract on 'x' amount each month you would turn it down if the company were doing not so well?

 

 

You understand that at no point have I criticised Forecast the individual... I am saying that, from a business point of view, it was a terrible financial decision all round. The player got a free ride and took a lot of money from the club (who at one point were very close to liquidation) whilst contributing nothing, knowing full well he had no future at the club. From a business stance the whole deal was sickening especially at a time when the club itself was in danger.

[The9]

You understand that at no point have I criticised Forecast the individual... I am saying that, from a business point of view, it was a terrible financial decision all round. The player got a free ride and took a lot of money from the club (who at one point were very close to liquidation) whilst contributing nothing, knowing full well he had no future at the club. From a business stance the whole deal was sickening especially at a time when the club itself was in danger.

 

From a business stance cashing in on Bale to get any money we could in immediately to try and stave off administration, and getting a cheap back up keeper at a time when Kelvin was half way out of the door to West Ham and Bart would have been our starter (assuming he wasn't between contracts) was a pretty decent idea.

 

It's only the subsequent uselessness of the "player" we got, and the unparalleled success of the player we cashed in the sell-on clause for that makes it look like an awful deal... in hindsight.

[The9]

You could tell it was going to happen. First Martin Allen said he was going to offer him a deal, then he "just" allowed him to be part of Gillingham's preseason, and finally he left as they began to play competitively.

 

The PFA has some pretty strict rules about telling people you're offering them contracts, it also explictly stated he was offered a deal on Gillingham's site, so I'm about 95% certain that the offer was on the table, he just didn't take it. No guarantee it wasn't a very low offer of course.

 

I'm not holding my breath re: MLG's money research to be honest, I don't think he knows any more than most of us on here about club finances.

[Badger]

Even worse to think he was a makeweight in the deal for Gareth Bale - shortly to be the world's most expensive footballer. Great deal there, Rupes - a hell of a negotiation.

 

Levy must have split his sides laughing.

 

We won't be pushed around by North London yobbos will we Rupert ?

[suewhistle]

It's only the subsequent uselessness of the "player" we got, and the unparalleled success of the player we cashed in the sell-on clause for that makes it look like an awful deal... in hindsight.

 

I don't know, but the story I heard from a decent source was that RL asked the goalkeeping coach/scout to go and investigate Forecast. The coach immediately replied "he's c**p" [or words to that effect]. RL asked, "but how do you know" and the scout replied "It's my job to know". It has a ring of truth about it.. Will we ever know? Let's just feel relieved, and sorry for Chelmsford...

[Wade Garrett]

He is nowhere near good enough for Chelmsford.

[Colinjb]

So, a man who symbolised everything wrong with the club when the sh*t hit the fan has finally completely fallen into non-league? Good.

 

He will have profited more from this then anyone. Just a wonder of what did he do to the talent he must have had at some point to get signed by Spurs and look promising in the FA Youth cup?

 

Anyone who wastes the natural ability they will at one point had doesn't deserve sympathy, they need to be used as examples and lessons.

[Lazlo78]

From a business stance cashing in on Bale to get any money we could in immediately to try and stave off administration, and getting a cheap back up keeper at a time when Kelvin was half way out of the door to West Ham and Bart would have been our starter (assuming he wasn't between contracts) was a pretty decent idea.

 

It's only the subsequent uselessness of the "player" we got, and the unparalleled success of the player we cashed in the sell-on clause for that makes it look like an awful deal... in hindsight.

 

An excellent reply to the useless speculations of 'what could have been', sparked by the transfer rumours surrounding Bale...

[SarniaSaint]

You could tell it was going to happen. First Martin Allen said he was going to offer him a deal, then he "just" allowed him to be part of Gillingham's preseason, and finally he left as they began to play competitively.

 

Apparently he was "popular" in the dressing room, my guess is Allen didn't actually mean it and everyone was just keeping a straight face at the Priestfield whenever he was around.

 

Lucky man, but from what I gather he is not the type of person that would've spent the last 5 years cashing-in and saving on the best contract of his career. Chances are his living standards will become unsustainable.

 

Also if MLG's FM13 research is to be taken seriously, he was probably on around 2.5k/week after all the collective promotion bonuses (his lack of participation probably means he only got a small increase).

Hey sounds like Steve Grant

[oldskoolsi]

So you're saying if saints offered you a five year deal on £10k a week you'd turn it down?

 

 

Hand on heart, yes. I have a job I love and get paid enough to keep me happy. Why does everything have to be about money? I hate exercise so the thought of doing it everyday terrifies me. I know I'd be shocking and after I let in the 5th goal in a match for the 10th week running, the looks from my team mates and sick I got for being crap would be horrible. i might just about stick it for a year but I'd think then I'd be looking to move on.

[david in sweden]

Not his fault Tottenham must of seen something in him as did we.Good luck to him.

 

I think it's more case of Tottenham saw us coming and sold us a dummy and claimed he was an England prospect.

 

I don't think that we knew much about him (surely few clubs would have scouted Spurs 3rd choice keeper(!) but at the end of the day....we paid an undisclosed fee ..and then gave him a five year contract - probably at some ridiculous amount for a player who wasn't even squad material.

 

People say that Spurs cheated us when they bought Bale, and then gave us a cut-price pay-off when we were hard up for cash, but I think it was a worse crime to sell us such a player - and make so outrageous claims about his ability.

[Golden Balls]

Did a quick search on here as I remembered something from a couple of years ago, here's the OP:

 

 

 

That was in 2011, after he had joined all the victorious players in celebrating promotion in front of the fans, despite contributing f*ck all to the cause!

 

Tommy Forecast is a waste of space, still think Conference South is too high a level for him.

 

I was there that night. In fact I probably made a comment on the thread you quoted.

I saw him giving it the large one up stairs in 90 degrees. He got a bit pushy with some fans and then got chucked out. I watched as he mouthed off to one fan who then floored him and left his nose ****ing with blood. Lovely Tommy then decided to hit the closest person to him when he got up. A woman. Lovely bloke. Hope he breaks both his legs in training the tosser!!

 

Wonder if he still logs on here? He never posted again after he was rumbled. His user name was Tommo86

Probably set up a new account.

Edited 12 August, 2013 by Golden Balls

[Turkish]

Hand on heart, yes. I have a job I love and get paid enough to keep me happy. Why does everything have to be about money? I hate exercise so the thought of doing it everyday terrifies me. I know I'd be shocking and after I let in the 5th goal in a match for the 10th week running, the looks from my team mates and sick I got for being crap would be horrible. i might just about stick it for a year but I'd think then I'd be looking to move on.

 

Fair enough. I think you're in a massive minority though. Most of us given the chance to be pro footballers would take it, even if we thought we were No where near good enough or not.

[Weston Saint]

I see Lowe is getting the blame again and I can see why but remember this club could only hope to survive at that time on young players on low wages and Forecast fitted that bill. Lowe was badly advised despite goalkeeping coach severe reservations.

 

In the same summer Lowe was made aware of a young midfield Frenchman called Morgan Schneiderlin but it would cost us €1m, money we did not have. Lowe went to the bank and they agreed to fund on his recommendation and reports. We all know that the bank did next!! Luckily we held on to Morgan as his skills had not developed enough to sell to recover the money. How do I know? Let's just say I had a friend in the board room at that time.

[stevegrant]

Hey sounds like Steve Grant

Que?

[Bearsy]

Hand on heart, yes. I have a job I love and get paid enough to keep me happy. Why does everything have to be about money? I hate exercise so the thought of doing it everyday terrifies me. I know I'd be shocking and after I let in the 5th goal in a match for the 10th week running, the looks from my team mates and sick I got for being crap would be horrible. i might just about stick it for a year but I'd think then I'd be looking to move on.

 

You don't have to actually play games! It's the chinning girls in night clubs that would put me off. I don't know that I'd be down with that.

[The9]

I don't know, but the story I heard from a decent source was that RL asked the goalkeeping coach/scout to go and investigate Forecast. The coach immediately replied "he's c**p" [or words to that effect]. RL asked, "but how do you know" and the scout replied "It's my job to know". It has a ring of truth about it.. Will we ever know? Let's just feel relieved, and sorry for Chelmsford...

 

Even so, if the deal was "you take this crap bloke off us or we don't agree to give you the Bale money up front", we'd probably still have done it.

[Pamplemousse]

I was there that night. In fact I probably made a comment on the thread you quoted.

I saw him giving it the large one up stairs in 90 degrees. He got a bit pushy with some fans and then got chucked out. I watched as he mouthed off to one fan who then floored him and left his nose ****ing with blood. Lovely Tommy then decided to hit the closest person to him when he got up. A woman. Lovely bloke. Hope he breaks both his legs in training the tosser!!

 

Wonder if he still logs on here? He never posted again after he was rumbled. His user name was Tommo86

Probably set up a new account.

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/member.php?4653-Tommo86

 

Last activity at 10:42am this morning

[Golden Balls]

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/member.php?4653-Tommo86

 

Last activity at 10:42am this morning

 

Ha! Checking up to see if we're still talking about him no doubt. What an ego.

[RedAndWhite91]

I was there that night. In fact I probably made a comment on the thread you quoted.

I saw him giving it the large one up stairs in 90 degrees. He got a bit pushy with some fans and then got chucked out. I watched as he mouthed off to one fan who then floored him and left his nose ****ing with blood. Lovely Tommy then decided to hit the closest person to him when he got up. A woman. Lovely bloke. Hope he breaks both his legs in training the tosser!!

 

Wonder if he still logs on here? He never posted again after he was rumbled. His user name was Tommo86

Probably set up a new account.

 

What a ****! Not the sort of person you want around your club.

 

Just had a look at "Tommo86"'s account, his last two posts were on a thread entitled "Tommy Forecast"... "Rubbish he didnt hit a woman" and "haha i can confirm i am not Tommy"...

 

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

The bloke is a total ****

[The9]

Ooh, are we in a "don't feed the Trollkeeper" situation now ? If he's actually reading this...

[Gordon Mockles]

Even worse to think he was a makeweight in the deal for Gareth Bale - shortly to be the world's most expensive footballer. Great deal there, Rupes - a hell of a negotiation.

 

Levy must have split his sides laughing.

 

Don't! So depressing to think about that. The dark lord "L" (can't even stand to type his name, I despise him that much for what he did) was so astute, just like his livestock buying prowess. He truly believed he knew best. Maybe we should amplify this news story and put it on his Wiki page although it has a libellous notice and alerts set up so if it is amended, they are quickly changed back and no doubt, alerts set with legal teams. Make of that what you will. Act like a **** and hide behind the law.

 

http://leagueoneminus10.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/tommy-forecast-has-left-building.html

 

Such was the prowess of self-appointed ‘Power Broker’ Rupert Lowe, his purchasing and visionary skills transferred to the cattle market as well as the financial world and the lucrative cash cow of retirement homes and share capital.

 

However, what will probably not receive headline attention, or many column inches for that matter, even in the mediocrity and low level journalism of local rags, is the slipping of the forlorn youth goal keeper - never to make a first team appearance for Saints - Tommy Forecast (known by some as Tommy Fourpast. I won’t explain why). He has now joined Conference South side, Chelmsofrd City.

 

For some, the future may have seemed bright for Tommy Forecast (possibly even Tomas Peckhart) and many must have felt astonishment for his good fortune when Rupert Lowe decided to bring the youth keeper to a flailing and financially troubled Southampton football club. It was worrying the then manager, Nigel Pearson, had recently offered Saints some saving grace by last minute survival followed by instant removal by the returning chairman (more worryingly, replaced by a Dutch duo plucked from sporting obscurity and offering little improvement to the club).

 

However, what was most disturbing was the impact of some of the financial decisions being made at the club back in 2007. Yes, the club were struggling but would you write off a sell on fee of 15% from a clearly talented left back, the current hot topic of the football transfer world, Welsh Wonderkid, Gareth Bale? Even at the time, the majority of Saints fan felt this was a ludicrous decision which seemed to be taken rather casually. Today, the potential transfer of Bale to Real Madrid looks set to break the world record football transfer fee; Spurs are demanding a figure in excess of 100 million pounds. That could mean the Southampton chairman wrote off 11 – 13 million pounds in a few strokes of a fountain pen.

 

It was bad enough Saints attempt at keeping such hot property was only manifested in a poor contract offer and a “we’re really look after you though” comment alleged from Saints. A familiar Saints tactic from the earlier years, poor contract offer, player refuses, club have carte blanche to say the player rejected the contract and have to sell. Feeder club antics.

 

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8848979/southampton-could-miss-out-on-around-11million-if-gareth-bale-is-sold

 

For Forecast, falling from the very top division, right into the doldrums of the conference may have been a shock. Maybe it was not. Maybe he was grateful of a very lengthy contract without even having proved himself. Writing off the Bale sell on clause must have made Forecast chuckle even further. Whatever happened? Forecast was touted for such dizzy heights. An ex football chairman was so convinced of this success, he wrote off a double figure million pound sell on clause in favour of this youth keeper. One word..........WOW!! It’s the most diplomatic term I can use legally.

[The9]

"WOW!" is also my response to reading that load of drivel. It literally adds nothing to the thread. Yes, you would write off a 15% sell on clause for a player who was barely making the Spurs first team at the time to try and get the club out of an admin situation which became urgent due to others' imprudence and gambling. If anything Lowe came back too late.

 

I'm no Lowe fan but that's just a load of crap, as is the £100m figure, trumped up to make the amount written off look larger, the allegations of low contract offers when none of our sales were players going out of contract, and the use of the word "we're" where you might possibly mean "we'll".

[Tommo86]

Sorry to disappoint lads, I am not Tommy. I joined the forum in 2007 before he signed for saints.. Hardly ever post on here, but check the Forecast stuff as had a few dealings with the guy during his time at Saints.