Bad Wolf Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11714/8862063/owner-assem-allam-to-formally-rename-club-hull-city-tigers Ok not strictly Saints related but that is SO American! I really hope we don't end up being called "The Southampton Saints" and hope this doesn't start a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Very tacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 It's already infested rugby league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 And union for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 While I hope it doesn't catch on, we could have a worse name than Southampton Saints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Bristol RFC were renamed the Bristol Shoguns for a sponsorship deal, London Broncos (RL) have had around 4 names in 10 years, every time Red Bull buy a team they are renamed. In sport It's not that new, it's just the first time it has happened to a premiership team. If another were to follow I suspect it would be "Cardiff City Dragons" As the OP says, it's a bit American for my liking. Not a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 And union for that matter And Cricket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 That's very tacky and classless. Not at all surprising though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 That's awful low class & tacky. Re branding is going mad now & is there any real evidence that it is proving to have any financial gain whatsoever? Or just chairman make decisions on shirt colours, badges now names on a whim & a fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 While I hope it doesn't catch on, we could have a worse name than Southampton Saints... Certainly could be worse. What will Pompey be? 'Pompey Bell-ends'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Certainly could be worse. What will Pompey be? 'Pompey Bell-ends'? Portsmouth Sailor Boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Certainly could be worse. What will Pompey be? 'Pompey Bell-ends'? Pikeys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Would be gutted if we were called the Southampton Saints or something American like that. Wouldn't be surprised if we did jump on the "branding" bandwagon though, not like Cortese has valued any of our traditions and history in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 With us changing kit, Cardiff completely changing colours and now this it seems we will start seeing a lot more of this. A price we have to pay due to having all these wealthy foreign owners. Tradition means nothing to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 That used to be the name of their firm, I hope the lads got copyright................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustonmyfeet Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Being renamed after a random animal to sound macho and appeal to an American audience that doesn't exist will not go down well with the average fan. For us on the other hand, having been called Southampton St Mary's before, at least it's not too much of a break from tradition to be nicknamed Southampton Saints. However the christian connotations would probably put off some marketing guru and we'd end up with something like Southampton Spitfires (unless there is already a team with that name?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Being renamed after a random animal to sound macho and appeal to an American audience that doesn't exist will not go down well with the average fan. For us on the other hand, having been called Southampton St Mary's before, at least it's not too much of a break from tradition to be nicknamed Southampton Saints. However the christian connotations would probably put off some marketing guru and we'd end up with something like Southampton Spitfires (unless there is already a team with that name?). I think Kent's T20 team used the Spitfires name after tying up with Shepherd Neame brewery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 I think Kent's T20 team used the Spitfires name after tying up with Shepherd Neame brewery. Rob Key looks scary there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 It will happen one day, sooner rather than later I would imagine, And it will more likely be Southampton Eterna than Southampton Saints. PS I had to look up the name of the watch firm, so it goes to show that the marketing isn't working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 One of our original names was as Southampton St Mary's so if we were to change our name to Southampton Saints then it would be a fantastic return to our roots and honouring our history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 It will happen one day, sooner rather than later I would imagine, And it will more likely be Southampton Eterna than Southampton Saints. PS I had to look up the name of the watch firm, so it goes to show that the marketing isn't working I'd never heard of them and now I know who they are and really like the look of their product, seems to be having some effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 (edited) Being renamed after a random animal to sound macho and appeal to an American audience that doesn't exist will not go down well with the average fan. For us on the other hand, having been called Southampton St Mary's before, at least it's not too much of a break from tradition to be nicknamed Southampton Saints. However the christian connotations would probably put off some marketing guru and we'd end up with something like Southampton Spitfires (unless there is already a team with that name?). I always thought Tiger's existed, have I missed something here, or have I had a funny turn................................ Edited 9 August, 2013 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 One of our original names was as Southampton St Mary's so if we were to change our name to Southampton Saints then it would be a fantastic return to our roots and honouring our history. I agree tbh. So long as it's not an animal or sponsor then I'd accept a name change. So long as it is relevant to Southampton then I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 That's awful low class & tacky. Re branding is going mad now & is there any real evidence that it is proving to have any financial gain whatsoever? Or just chairman make decisions on shirt colours, badges now names on a whim & a fancy. I actually think it can be counter productive. Sponsors shoving their name on to a club / place which has a long tradition just alienates people. Good branding is about being associated with a team people care about and the perception your brand is supporting it, not taking it over / changing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Our club has had four names since 1885... St. Mary's Young Mens Association St. Mary's Football Club Southampton St Mary's Southampton Football Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolsi Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Certainly could be worse. What will Pompey be? 'Pompey Bell-ends'? Portsmouth Administrators (can't take credit for it, aw it somewhere else) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Our club has had four names since 1885... St. Mary's Young Mens Association St. Mary's Football Club Southampton St Mary's Southampton Football Club and 3 of them were in the first 12 years, only one of them since 1897. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Our club has had four names since 1885... St. Mary's Young Mens Association St. Mary's Football Club Southampton St Mary's Southampton Football Club Here we go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 To be honest, this does kind of put our home shirt colour change into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Here we go.. Well if Hull stick with Hull City Tigers for 100 years+ like we have with our 4th name then that will become "tradition". People are fixated that football shouldn't change when it does constantly and new "traditions" have been created. Anything that is different from the original club when formed is a deviation from "tradition". I'm not saying Southampton should have a name change, what I'm saying is the whole notion of tradition in football is flimsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Here we go.. he didn't mention that of them were in the 1800's though. I'm sure he'll go on about tradition and changing names is not a recent thing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 The Brighton Seagulls could complete the picture with an all-male Cheerleader Troupe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Hull Tigers are already known as the Tigers locally, as one of the city's two Rugby League sides is Hull FC (the other being Hull Kingston Rovers), otherwise known as just 'Hull'. It is no big deal. Basically they are formalising something which has already happened locally. It is only news to those outside Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Here we go.. nothing wrong with posting up factual information. it's interesting. this is a Saints forum, for stuff about Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Ha ha ha. That's dreadful.. T**ts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 It is only news to those outside Hull. Not on the Hull forum it isn't. They are livid. http://www.hullcityindependent.net/?page=forum&forum_id=4&thread_id=16076 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Its hardly a huge change. Their current badge already has a large picture of a tiger and the words "The Tigers" written on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 I give it two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Hull Tigers are already known as the Tigers locally, as one of the city's two Rugby League sides is Hull FC (the other being Hull Kingston Rovers), otherwise known as just 'Hull'. It is no big deal. Basically they are formalising something which has already happened locally. It is only news to those outside Hull. And Saints are called Saints by everyone in Southampton. Not the same as being officially renamed Southampton Saints. It is a big deal in Hull and would be here if the same happened. Luckily all traditions start today so Hull Tigers is already their traditional name. Ask MLG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 You've twisted what I've said quite considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhepworth7 Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Look, we can't take the moral high ground and criticise another team for trampling all over its own traditions. I know the history but, as far as everyone else is concerned, our shirts have red and white stripes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Some teams just get what they deserve.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Hull Tigers are already known as the Tigers locally, as one of the city's two Rugby League sides is Hull FC (the other being Hull Kingston Rovers), otherwise known as just 'Hull'. It is no big deal. Basically they are formalising something which has already happened locally. It is only news to those outside Hull. When I lived there in the mid 90s they were known as `City' by ullites. In recent times knickname `The Tigers' has gained prominence, but `Hull Tigers' seems a step too far. What next, the Sunderland Black cats? The owner points to short names being the reason but City is shorter than Tigers the last time I counted. This name change reminds me of that Budweiser **** take advert with the Portsmouth Pirates etc. Sadly fiction seems to becoming reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Its hardly a huge change. Their current badge already has a large picture of a tiger and the words "The Tigers" written on it. Hull City with a nickname The Tigers is not the same as Hull Tigers. does anyone actually think a name change to Southampton Saints would be OK? That would be a very sad day if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Hull City with a nickname The Tigers is not the same as Hull Tigers. does anyone actually think a name change to Southampton Saints would be OK? That would be a very sad day if you ask me. No. Nobody does. Some just want a reaction and fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 I'm worried we would be called the Southampton Marys. But if we need to adopt something more keeping with the don. The Southampton Cosa Nostra? Or the Southampton Omertas'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Absolutely ridiculous. Too bloody American for my liking, it reminds me of that Budweiser campaign around 2005-2007 when they jokingly renamed every PL club and had a fake American advert for some. The 'West Ham Hammers' for example, don't know if anyone remembers that, but it literally took the **** and was quite a comical advert and now Hull have come along and actually done it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 (edited) does anyone actually think a name change to Southampton Saints would be OK? That would be a very sad day if you ask me. We've been called "Southampton St Mary's" before, so isn't reverting to older names "traditional"? Edited 9 August, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 We've been called "Southampton St Mary's" before, so isn't reverting to older names "traditional"? There is a very definitive difference between naming the club after a part of it's home city and adopting the nickname into the official title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 August, 2013 Share Posted 9 August, 2013 Hopefully Saints will grasp the nettle and rebrand to Banzai Dragon Samaurai Attack Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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