Computer Says No ....

[Wurzel]

...we're not going to win the league.

These are the forecasts of Bloomberg Sport, the analytics company who have used seasons' worth of data and complex algorithms to predict the final standings of the new season.

 

Realistic?

 

[niceandfriendly]

11th, yeah probably about right with the current squad.

[AussieDog]

any idea what they predicted last season and how that compared to the actual final table?

[stevegrant]

I'd take that, although only finishing 6 points above the bottom 3 would mean the end of the season would still be a bit nervy.

[Whitey Grandad]

No need to actually play the games then

[hutch]

I think that's a pretty reasonable prediction, even if it does say Daily Mail.

 

I fancy Chelsea for the title, Palace Hull and Stoke to go down, and us to be nutting it out with Wet Sham and Newcastle for upper mid-table.

[Saint Garrett]

Norwich a little higher, Newcastle a bit lower and don't think they're far away.

[igsey]

I'd expect Cardiff to finish a bit higher and I can't see Liverpool reaching sixth, but apart from that it looks fairly reasonable.

[Lets B Avenue]

Who are we going to get 0.9 points against?

[Miltonaggro]

I reckon that's about right, and can see us finishing anywhere in the middle huddle between 7th and 13th...

[max_saints]

is this table going to reopen the 'west ham is as likely to get relegated as man united' debate?

[SaintBobby]

is this table going to reopen the 'west ham is as likely to get relegated as man united' debate?

 

let's hope so....

[Andre]

Very reasonable. Been tipping Chelsea to win the title since Fergie left United and Mourinho returned to Stamford Bridge, and always said 10th-12th was about right for us. Don't think all three promoted teams will go down, though.

[Charlie Wayman]

No need to actually play the games then

 

Thank goodness for that, I can get on and do other things on a Saturday afternoon.....

[Junior Mullet]

Swap Saints and Newcastle and it's about right. Chelsea are my favorites to win the title ahead of City, Arsenal and then United.

[syd_barrett_saint]

Almost four times more likely to finish top 10 than be relegated.

 

I like that.

[buctootim]

Only a 9.9% chance, less than one in 10, of relegation. Wonder what the bookies odds are.

[Wes Tender]

I'd put us above Newcastle and West Ham. Pardew has recently admitted to the horror of the Toon Army, that little ole Southampton have greater spending muscle than the mighty "big club" Magpies.

 

And Norwich down there? Surely that can't be right? We're assured by the forum experts that their closed season purchases are much better players than those we have been looking at and that they've been getting on with it instead of p*ssing about like us.

[ant]

Only a 9.9% chance, less than one in 10, of relegation. Wonder what the bookies odds are.

 

The best price you can currently get appears to be 10/1, although Betfred only offer 6/1. Fairly close between the stats and bookies in the main though. Both are lumping us with Swansea, West Brom, Newcastle, Fulham and West Ham in casual midtable. Seems fair.

[DanW]

How often do all three promoted teams go right back down? That prediction seems a bit "easy" to me, and I say it's very unlikely that all three will be relegated.

[buctootim]

How often do all three promoted teams go right back down? That prediction seems a bit "easy" to me, and I say it's very unlikely that all three will be relegated.

 

But its not actually predicting all three will go down. If you multiply the probabilities together to get the likelihood of all three being relegated it comes out at only 11.99%.

 

Its simply saying those are the teams individually who are more likely than any other team to be occupying that position. It sound like semantics, but statistically its a big difference.

[Cascadia Saint]

Can't see Newcastle finishing 8th.

[trousers]

We'll get at least 50 points