Saint Fan CaM Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 I was listening to Solent's build up of the Bompey v Pompey match and it started me thinking that perhaps Bompey are now far enough ahead of the blue phew that they deserve 'rival' status now. Let's face it, they would give us a much harder game than the skates would and I don't think they can be considered as that little club on the other side of the Forest now. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Good god what a fall from grace "The Phew" have had. That must feel awful to think that your club is so small you are not even considered rivals anymore. phahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Yes. We should send a telegram at once to tell them that they are no longer of any significance and in the interests of reasonable sporting competition their 'rivalry status' has been terminated in favour of a much bigger club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 As we're on the south coast can we count PSG as a local rival? That sounds about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Not sure I could dislike Bournemouth. Even when their fans were being total bellends on here/twitter/at SMS etc, they're still my 2nd team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 The Bournemouth fans are even posher than our own, the posher you go the more Julians and Sebastians in the crowd, I aint got no time for dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 The Bournemouth fans are even posher than our own, the posher you go the more Julians and Sebastians in the crowd, I aint got no time for dat. How you must hate having Winchester, Romsey and Salisbury in the catchment area! No, can't hate the Cherries, always look out for their results and hope they do well. Not going to get dragged in by the 50 or so utter idiots that follow them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pahars_Legend Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 The winner of tonights match should be crowned our rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 How you must hate having Winchester, Romsey and Salisbury in the catchment area! No, can't hate the Cherries, always look out for their results and hope they do well. Not going to get dragged in by the 50 or so utter idiots that follow them. I do they should be at the hockey, rugby and lacrosse, working mans game and I do blame them for an awful atmosphere at the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 (edited) I do they should be at the hockey, rugby and lacrosse, working mans game and I do blame them for an awful atmosphere at the stadium. It must be great being stranded in the 70's. Love you too. Xx Edited 6 August, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 I can imagine they'll all be having a 'We all h8 da Scummaaaarrrrzzz!!' love in at the game tonight. Bournemouth have been my 'second team' since my family moved there after my Dad left the Army when I was 18 ten years ago. Never been to a game but always watched out for their results and hoped they did well. A lot would have to happen for them to replace the rivalry with the blue few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 It must be great being stranded in the 70's. Love you too. Xx The 80's, football was better then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 It must be great being stranded in the 70's. Love you too. Xx Barry still regularly campaigns against the war in Vietnam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 It must be great being stranded in the 70's. Love you too. Xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 I hope this thread is a wind up. Just the word "Bompey" makes me cringe. I like Bournemouth, nice beaches, decent nightlife and extremely fit women compared to most of the rotters in our City. It was a pleasant place both my Grans got evacuated to when we were getting bombed to pieces in WW2. Have barely got a bad word to say about the place. Pompey however is a place and a race of people I genuinely hate. That won't change. The feeling is mutual I know, about the only thing I respect them for is the knowledge that they hate us as much as we hate them and they really mean it, unlike the modern football "rivalry lite" inspired "derbies" with Brighton, Bournemouth (or Bompey if you prefer lol etc), Reading and even Plymouth FFS! Up the f*cking Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 I like Bournemouth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Barry still regularly campaigns against the war in Vietnam. And the invasion of Manchuria, the raping of Nanking and the War denial by the Japanese Tokyo, never forget that....................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 The 80's, football was better then. Shame, the chance to experience the cup win and James Hunt winning the F1 title.... all in that one glorious summer. Will just have to get a letter to excuse me from hockey practice, the no 3. sport in the villages of central Hampshire behind archery and jousting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Shame, the chance to experience the cup win and James Hunt winning the F1 title.... all in that one glorious summer. Will just have to get a letter to excuse me from hockey practice, the no 3. sport in the villages of central Hampshire behind archery and jousting. I did experience it but I was one years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 We are are all very very affected by that Baz. Just like the British massacres in the distant past. This is all very linked to Bournemouth and our non rivalry with them. In answer to the OP, no they will never be rivals. Bournemouth is in general a nice place with Ok people and decent for a night out. Portsmouth is a scum hole, with an ego to rival Liverpool and a team to rival Hartlepool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 We are are all very very affected by that Baz. Just like the British massacres in the distant past. This is all very linked to Bournemouth and our non rivalry with them. In answer to the OP, no they will never be rivals. Bournemouth is in general a nice place with Ok people and decent for a night out. Portsmouth is a scum hole, with an ego to rival Liverpool and a team to rival Hartlepool. We have never come close to anything like that, that is argubly the worst human atrocity after the holocaust, the Japanese still deny it when its absolute fact, anyway we digress as you say. The rivalry they have is a crap one, what time will they be going through Central? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_southy Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Quite like to see them do well and happy for Surman to go there so no not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 How can we rival a team from a town whose football fans have traditionally travelled up the A31 for PL football? Include in that the links between the two cities, the two clubs (Bournemouth have received our young starlets and other players on loan since I don't know when) and any attempts of a rivalry look fairly stupid. I also look out for their results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZebadeeRust Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 My name is Julian, I'm from Romsey and I'm middle class. I'm afraid I didn't get the memo that I wasn't allowed to support Southampton FC due to being born into a family that isn't on the breadline. I do apologies for my 20+ years of support. I'll go away now, cook some cous-cous and play a bit of lawn tennis. Cheerio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 My name is Julian, I'm from Romsey and I'm middle class. I'm afraid I didn't get the memo that I wasn't allowed to support Southampton FC due to being born into a family that isn't on the breadline. I do apologies for my 20+ years of support. I'll go away now, cook some cous-cous and play a bit of lawn tennis. Cheerio Cheers Jules, can you put your Saints clobber in the "to the African orphans" bin on the wayout.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZebadeeRust Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Cheers Jules, can you put your Saints clobber in the "to the African orphans" bin on the wayout.......................... Does that include my foam hand and face paints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 My name is Julian, I'm from Romsey and I'm middle class. I'm afraid I didn't get the memo that I wasn't allowed to support Southampton FC due to being born into a family that isn't on the breadline. I do apologies for my 20+ years of support. I'll go away now, cook some cous-cous and play a bit of lawn tennis. Cheerio Huh! We in the proper middle class play real tennis. Even the OP using the term 'Bompey' shows that it is Portsmouth who remain our rivals , not the mostly harmless few on the Dorset coast. PFC in whatever latest incarnation, and in whatever league (or non-league ) they play will always be the team to loathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Does that include my foam hand and face paints? No you can keep them, the kids over there wont want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 I hope this thread is a wind up. Just the word "Bompey" makes me cringe. I like Bournemouth, nice beaches, decent nightlife and extremely fit women compared to most of the rotters in our City. It was a pleasant place both my Grans got evacuated to when we were getting bombed to pieces in WW2. Have barely got a bad word to say about the place. Pompey however is a place and a race of people I genuinely hate. That won't change. The feeling is mutual I know, about the only thing I respect them for is the knowledge that they hate us as much as we hate them and they really mean it, unlike the modern football "rivalry lite" inspired "derbies" with Brighton, Bournemouth (or Bompey if you prefer lol etc), Reading and even Plymouth FFS! Up the f*cking Saints. Amen. This sums up the notion perfectly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 The rivalry will always be Saints-Pompey. Why? Here's same reasons: - Natural competition. The Bournemouth economy is different whereas Soton/P'mouth are always in direct competition for regeneration monies and other economic development support. - History: Two large, very different dockyards, different mentalities (outward-facing Soton vs island mentality E of the M27) of the populations - A sizeable minority skates will always hate SFC, however much they might scrap with Millwall or other clubs. This would not fade. - Fanbase; whatever we say about the skates, their fanbase will always be larger than AFCBs - Sustainability of ACFB - they've spent plenty to get to the NPC and fair play to Howe. Can they sustain it though for this season and beyond? Can they grow their fanbase to get 10k+ gates in all divisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Barry, if you want to start a thread about global atrocities, be my guest.... It will probably be a good read and get quite a few posts.... but do it in the lounge or something. This was a pretty good thread until you side tracked it talking about Japanese denial about this that and the other. (From my perspective, once you go past the point of strapping kenyans to a cannon muzzel and fertilizing the field.... then you've gone to far regardless.) As for rivalries.... I want the skates to stay i business and fall out of the football league, I want them to lose the ground completely, and for it to be knocked down/fall down. And I want them to struggle along in the conference/league 2 for as long as possible. This is not out of sense of rivalry, it is because they are disgrace of a football club and fanbase, with no moral compass what so ever.... if you did you wouldn't see pompey fans moaning about tax payers money going to waste on other football clubs and they would have paid back the local businesses rather than spending money to outbid higher league clubs for players - only to ultimately get relegated. They are a disease, and should either suffer indefinitely or be wiped out. (Is that enough hate for people?) The other club that i dislike, is west ham... the arrogance of their fans in the championship really got on my nerves, compounded by the fact that they completely forgot they even did it by the time we reached the premier, like we were no longer on their radar and were far beneath them. They are a club who moan about financial fair play when they spent a fortune in the championship, were hugely in debt, and then all of a sudden, next to free 60k brand new stadium - "financial fair play, financial fair play bla bla bla".... bunch of jokers. In fairness to some of their fans however, I have met them in every city I have been in, and unlike liverpool fans etc, they actually travel across the country to go to the games. One team I dread plying is west brom.... so many times we have need to get past them and they ahve stood in the way... play offs, relegation etc... can't even remember beating them although I'm sure we must have in my lifetime??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Barry, if you want to start a thread about global atrocities, be my guest.... It will probably be a good read and get quite a few posts.... but do it in the lounge or something. This was a pretty good thread until you side tracked it talking about Japanese denial about this that and the other. (From my perspective, once you go past the point of strapping kenyans to a cannon muzzel and fertilizing the field.... then you've gone to far regardless.) As for rivalries.... I want the skates to stay i business and fall out of the football league, I want them to lose the ground completely, and for it to be knocked down/fall down. And I want them to struggle along in the conference/league 2 for as long as possible. This is not out of sense of rivalry, it is because they are disgrace of a football club and fanbase, with no moral compass what so ever.... if you did you wouldn't see pompey fans moaning about tax payers money going to waste on other football clubs and they would have paid back the local businesses rather than spending money to outbid higher league clubs for players - only to ultimately get relegated. They are a disease, and should either suffer indefinitely or be wiped out. (Is that enough hate for people?) The other club that i dislike, is west ham... the arrogance of their fans in the championship really got on my nerves, compounded by the fact that they completely forgot they even did it by the time we reached the premier, like we were no longer on their radar and were far beneath them. They are a club who moan about financial fair play when they spent a fortune in the championship, were hugely in debt, and then all of a sudden, next to free 60k brand new stadium - "financial fair play, financial fair play bla bla bla".... bunch of jokers. In fairness to some of their fans however, I have met them in every city I have been in, and unlike liverpool fans etc, they actually travel across the country to go to the games. One team I dread plying is west brom.... so many times we have need to get past them and they ahve stood in the way... play offs, relegation etc... can't even remember beating them although I'm sure we must have in my lifetime??? Why thanks 86 you are a gent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 'Bompey' is a silly word and there's no replacing our fishy friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 The Bournemouth fans are even posher than our own, the posher you go the more Julians and Sebastians in the crowd, I aint got no time for dat. we used to have a Rupert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 We have no rivals until we antagonise some random southern Premier League side with some Don-based antics. My money's on a vicious media war with Fulham for 10th place involving Cortese defecating on Michael Jackson after Cortese moves into the actual cottage and refuses to pay rent until they sell us Brede Hangeland. He'll also not cut the grass on the pitch, causing £1.5m worth of damages (assessed by Franny Benali's accountant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 FWIW I have absolutely no problem with Bournemouth whatsoever, and very much enjoyed their inferiority complexes the last time we played them. Wandering around that park next to the ground singing "you're our second favourite club" at their wannabe-hoolies was quite amusing and really seemed to wind them up. I actually hope the Skates beat them (their reserves hopefully), but only because I desperately want us to have the chance to absolutely demolish them in the second round with our reserve team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Hopefully an away tie against the winner awaits us in the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Cheats have still got twice as many season-ticket holders as Boscombe despite being two leagues below them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 What's the deal with Bournemouth's stadium, it's called Dean Court right? How come it is sometimes called the sandybeach stadium or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonC Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Interesting thoughts! We (AFCB) will always bumble along without a proper rival, thats just the way it is. Say if Poole Town got massive investment and got into the league, there still wouldn't be any nastiness. Will be interesting to see if their matches with Weymouth go off peacefully in the 'El Jurassico'. Yeovil are a dead loss - still too non league, don't respind to any winding up. So we are a bit stuck. I was even in 442 magazine a few years ago with fans from Gillingham, MK Dons and Carlisle - teams with no rivals (although Gills aren't a very popular club, all in all) So I don't think us and you will ever happen. I think a few of you overestimate how many us of dislike Saints. Many of us (like me) have got family in Soton and I have gone up to watch the odd boxing day Div 1 game - its mainly some of the older fans. We never hardly played you, so its hard to get worked up! You'll have to hope Pompey pull their socks up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 I suspect MK Dons have more rivals than they are prepared to admit to themselves. At least 91 of them off the top of my head, and one in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 The 80's, football was better then. Not sure about the football but the hooliganism was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 I'm sorry but some of you are going to have to face up to the fact that football wise the Saints / Pompey rivalry is over. If you really 8 Pompey that much you had better start supporting Eastleigh because that's who they are going to be playing next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 You do realise starting this thread that both Echo's are now going to run a story stating saints fans considerer Bournemouth to be closer rivals than Portsmouth. Watch this Space..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Interesting thoughts! We (AFCB) will always bumble along without a proper rival, thats just the way it is. Say if Poole Town got massive investment and got into the league, there still wouldn't be any nastiness. Will be interesting to see if their matches with Weymouth go off peacefully in the 'El Jurassico'. Yeovil are a dead loss - still too non league, don't respind to any winding up. So we are a bit stuck. I was even in 442 magazine a few years ago with fans from Gillingham, MK Dons and Carlisle - teams with no rivals (although Gills aren't a very popular club, all in all) So I don't think us and you will ever happen. I think a few of you overestimate how many us of dislike Saints. Many of us (like me) have got family in Soton and I have gone up to watch the odd boxing day Div 1 game - its mainly some of the older fans. We never hardly played you, so its hard to get worked up! You'll have to hope Pompey pull their socks up! Very reasonable comment, it's always seemed to me that both saints and bournemouth like each other. And there's never been anything close to animosity in my lifetime. That is till last time we played. Personally i think the new "hatred" from the cherries comes down to clubs feeling like they need to have a rival these days. I'll never forget working in bournemouth just before a play off game, i saw a cherries fan in his top and wished him good luck for the game. He asked me who i support and i told him saints. Infront of his group of uni mates he proudly said "i bet that was hard for a scummer given how much we hate each other". I then pretty much humiliated him infront of his friends by accident, by saying that i didn't know a single saints fan that hated bournemouth, and in fact knew that when they were winning their scores would often be cheered at the Dell (though they've stopped local scores at St Mary's for some reason). And that really sums it up. Saints/Pompey is nasty, at times evil, and about much more than football. It's why those from outside the city will never really get it (and i include a lot of saints fans who aren't from southampton as to them it's pantomime). Saints bournemouth is a good day on the ****, at a club most people like and have donated money towards keeping alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 (edited) Interesting thoughts! We (AFCB) will always bumble along without a proper rival, thats just the way it is. Say if Poole Town got massive investment and got into the league, there still wouldn't be any nastiness. Will be interesting to see if their matches with Weymouth go off peacefully in the 'El Jurassico'. Yeovil are a dead loss - still too non league, don't respind to any winding up. So we are a bit stuck. I was even in 442 magazine a few years ago with fans from Gillingham, MK Dons and Carlisle - teams with no rivals (although Gills aren't a very popular club, all in all) So I don't think us and you will ever happen. I think a few of you overestimate how many us of dislike Saints. Many of us (like me) have got family in Soton and I have gone up to watch the odd boxing day Div 1 game - its mainly some of the older fans. We never hardly played you, so its hard to get worked up! You'll have to hope Pompey pull their socks up! There certainly is a minority of idiots who treated our games in League One as though it was the be all and end all. I remember standing upstairs in the old King Alfred and watching a police escort shepherd about 50-80 Chavs to the Stadium as they shouted at the Saints fans who happened to be nearby. I also remember a debate I hate on facebook with someone from late kick off about them labeling our matches as a local derby. I made my own personal feelings clear on the matter a few years ago in my blog. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/entry.php?56-Derby-Day All there is is proximity, nothing else. I do not know of many relationships in the football league like ours, where many fans of both sides actively want the other to do well. Edited 6 August, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 I like Bournemouth and always look out for their scores. I thought we were only part time rivals in League 1 because we liked them so much, we didn't want them to miss out???,..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Bournemouth have done well to be where they are and were only rivals for a couple of months, but not now. I like them, most So'ton people I meet feel the same, there is nothing to 'hate' about them, they are no threat to us so more they win the better, especially tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 6 August, 2013 Share Posted 6 August, 2013 Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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