Olallana Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 For all MoPo contacts and friends i expected one or two bargains from Spain. Think Norwich and Swansea had ambitious targets and showed us how to do business with conviction and speed. And if he did people would complain that they would come in and take the english players places in the team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Surprised to read people questioning the purchase of Wanyama. It is a long season and the boys in centre-mid have a hell of a lot of running to do. Strength in depth in these key positions is clearly important. The ability to rotate wed-sat-wed and/or bring on a fresh pair of legs on ~65 minutes will be crucial if we are to maintain the high pressing game throughout the season. Davis and JWP are better higher up the pitch in my opinion (see WhoScored for JWP v poor tackling stats) meaning that our 'strength' in this area runs to Morgan, Cork and Wanyama. Three players for two positions is hardly overdoing it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Me too. Much of Spanish football is in financial turmoil because gates have dropped with the huge recession there, there must be opportunities. Which is why the £12 million spent on Wanyama doesn't make any difference. There's plenty of strikers available within our budget who will improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 On what basis are you making that judgment? My basis is the footage of the physio when he went down. He was holding his knee and then physio was bending his leg. I could be wrong but I have suffered enough knee injuries to spot a problem. Luke clattered into the other player, - a coming together. Like I said I could be wrong and hope I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1976 Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 We'd be a pretty tidy side if we could score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 For all MoPo contacts and friends i expected one or two bargains from Spain. Think Norwich and Swansea had ambitious targets and showed us how to do business with conviction and speed. Norwich had no decent goal scorer in there team last season, we have Lambo and Jay Rod who can both score 10 goals or more in the prem, Swansea bar Michu had no one else to chip in with double figures, these two sides needed to buy strikers, we needed to tighten our defence we have done this with the signings and new tactics, i see us going for a top striker but if we don't were still gain at least 4-5 more points then last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Forgot it went to pens and switched off at 90 minutes. Not sure why there are people so concerned - we looked pretty good and made chances in both halves. Certainly should have taken two or three but I don't think we were struggling for incisiveness, at least not in the first half. Besides, it's a friendly - our fitness and workrate looked top drawer and, touch wood on Shaw, there were no injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Norwich had no decent goal scorer in there team last season, we have Lambo and Jay Rod who can both score 10 goals or more in the prem, Swansea bar Michu had no one else to chip in with double figures, these two sides needed to buy strikers, we needed to tighten our defence we have done this with the signings and new tactics, i see us going for a top striker but if we don't were still gain at least 4-5 more points then last season. The goals dried up towards the end of last season...... Maybe due to MoPos tactics than players? 3 goals in our final 6 games!! It was obvious that we needed attacking options this summer and we needed to show more conviction. The owners gave NC the £'s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 My basis is the footage of the physio when he went down. He was holding his knee and then physio was bending his leg. I could be wrong but I have suffered enough knee injuries to spot a problem. Luke clattered into the other player, - a coming together. Like I said I could be wrong and hope I am. He did carry on afterwards though. Any doubt from the physio and he would surely have come off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 We know we're in the market for another striker, just have to hope one comes along before the end of the deadline. If we had a bit more incisiveness in the final third that would have gone down as a great performance. Players are looking fit and hopefully it comes together in the next couple of weeks. This game was definitely a step back to when Pochettino first arrived with regards the pressure and hunting in packs. The back four was very high up the pitch. Nearly got caught out a few times but not enough to stop doing it against Vigo, especially as we won the ball back in some dangerous positions too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 @Zoggers87: @JFBLucas #SaintsFC Shaw ok after that knock? @JFBLucas: @Zoggers87 Yeah, seemed fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Not after January Helping MLG.... yes we were! After Jan til end of season we were 10th highest scorers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 No we weren't, we were 10th lowest. Surely you know by now how it works on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 @Zoggers87: @JFBLucas #SaintsFC Shaw ok after that knock? @JFBLucas: @Zoggers87 Yeah, seemed fine. Luke Shaw @Luke_shaw3 1h ? ah krap OK he posted a thumbs down smiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 No we weren't, we were 10th lowest. Surely you know by now how it works on here. Since you know how it works here you understand why someone has to point out that that would be 11th lowest if it´s 10th highest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 And if he did people would complain that they would come in and take the english players places in the team.... That logic didn't stop the club signing Lovren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 That logic didn't stop the club signing Lovren. Well, to be honest we haven´t any english CB's to replace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 We have needed a goalscorer since March, it obvious, very plainly obvious, Norwich have done it twice possibly three times, I would love Hooper and Wolfswinkel to compliment what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Runners up in L1, runners up in the championship now runner up in the el trofeo memorial quinocho. We lack a winning mentality, Cortese will helpfully be doing his nut about this shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 I would love Hooper and Wolfswinkel to compliment what we have. "Zat Lambert is a great player" "Aye, that he is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 "Zat Lambert is a great player" "Aye, that he is." Where you hanging around with Germans and Geordies by any chance tonight Sue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 "Zat Lambert is a great player" "Aye, that he is." Finished the gin, now for the tia maria............................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 ]Forgot it went to pens and switched off at 90 minutes.[/b]. agree with you . A good run-out, and either side might have got a goal to win it. However, you're point is well taken as no-one else except RL - would have been in line to take a one-off pen. in a League situation. Draw up a random list of 5 tired players to take a penalty in a " real " game - and you'd see the same result. Just the problem that England have had for the last 20 years. Choose your best players for each position and they maybe OK, but they have probably never taken a penalty for their club side in a Prem. game. That's down to the " specialist penalty-taker " in their side, and in many clubs - it's not even an English player. we had MLT, and others before him and now it's Rickie, but where is the next marksman who'll get such a record? No-one else gets a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 (edited) And if he did people would complain that they would come in and take the english players places in the team.... but of course, and Lovren will take the place of .....a Portuguese...a Dutchman .....or a Japanese. Difficult to argue that one - especially as the best CB pair we've had in the last 10 years was a Swede and a Norwegian ! English CB's ?.....looking at the options that Roy Hodgson turns up with, I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to choose one of them. Edited 4 August, 2013 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Wanyama a great addition. Central midfield is so important and we now have three great options there. We will sign a striker, that is fairly obvious so no need to worry. We look strong. Well said Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Things I learned tonight: 1. Gaston provides creativity in a way that no other saints players seem able 2. Someone needs to explain the offside rule to Mayuka 3. Steven Davis is better than I realised 4. Lovren is a class act and we did well to sign him 5. J Rod needs to become much more clinical in front of goal if he is to reach his potential 6. Given concerns about Mayuka and J Rod, we REALLY need a top level striker Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 nice performance from all the WUMs and trolls on this preseason thread, building up their trolling fitness in time for the new season. match day threads, bring em on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Wanyama will be class - he looks much more powerful than Cork and its not just the player vs. player comparison you have to consider. I think a midfield with Wanyama and Schneiderlin allows us to carry a Ramirez in a way that one with Cork and Schneiderlin doesn't. What is noticeable with Wanyama is that he is not yet Schneiderlin/Cork fit, but that will come and he is a fabulous addition to our squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Luke Shaw @Luke_shaw3 1h ah krap OK he posted a thumbs down smiley Aaaaaaahhhhhh ****e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Im not slating him - but when you look at the contribution Boruc, Cork, Lambert and Yoshida have made to the team for a combined cost of less than £5m the £12m in a part of the team we werent weak doesnt look so smart. Lovren was a much better signing because he's got the pedrigree in an area we needed. I disagree this is one of the key areas in our team in a long season. Strength in depth is essential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 I think many saying boldly we will get a striker have forgotten last year on how we were going to get a defender. Same determined posting that it will happen, a certainty.. I hope that we do sign a striker, because, if not we'll be damned at how things are progressing under Pochettino since the end of his period of grace last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 I disagree this is one of the key areas in our team in a long season. Strength in depth is essential Nobody is disputing that Wanyama is a good player or that strengh in depth is important. The point that Buctootim is making is that SFC/ NC and or MoPo have behaved a bit like a family on benefits, living on the bread line. What the family desperately need is some food (striker) and some clothes for the kids (defenders) but the parents have bought a 48" TV when they already have a working 46" TV. #Priorities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Since you know how it works here you understand why someone has to point out that that would be 11th lowest if it´s 10th highest... Touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Nobody is disputing that Wanyama is a good player or that strengh in depth is important. The point that Buctootim is making is that SFC/ NC and or MoPo have behaved a bit like a family on benefits, living on the bread line. What the family desperately need is some food (striker) and some clothes for the kids (defenders) but the parents have bought a 48" TV when they already have a working 46" TV. #Priorities Except that Southampton Football Club is a wealthy upper class family, which can afford all three and will buy all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 (edited) ... Edited 4 August, 2013 by hutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Nobody is disputing that Wanyama is a good player or that strengh in depth is important. The point that Buctootim is making is that SFC/ NC and or MoPo have behaved a bit like a family on benefits, living on the bread line. What the family desperately need is some food (striker) and some clothes for the kids (defenders) but the parents have bought a 48" TV when they already have a working 46" TV. #Priorities Neither you nor I know our "Priorities" this transfer window. Why are you assuming a striker is lower down the list...maybe it's just taking longer to find a player that fits the playing profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 I think many saying boldly we will get a striker have forgotten last year on how we were going to get a defender. Same determined posting that it will happen, a certainty.. I hope that we do sign a striker, because, if not we'll be damned at how things are progressing under Pochettino since the end of his period of grace last season. We did get a defender. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Whats that ? We need a striker to compliment our tactics ? Who would have thought........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 We did get a defender. HTH. Two good ones, Clyne and Yoshida. Was he the poster calling Shaw a ponce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Nobody is disputing that Wanyama is a good player or that strengh in depth is important. The point that Buctootim is making is that SFC/ NC and or MoPo have behaved a bit like a family on benefits, living on the bread line. What the family desperately need is some food (striker) and some clothes for the kids (defenders) but the parents have bought a 48" TV when they already have a working 46" TV. #Priorities Nobody makes 48" TV's, 46" and 47" yes but then the next size is 50". This is where your argument falls down, must try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Nobody makes 48" TV's, 46" and 47" yes but then the next size is 50". This is where your argument falls down, must try harder. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-48-Hitachi-Ultravision-3D-LED-1080P-Smart-HDTV-w-Glasses-FREE-SHIPPING-/271207393304 http://www.hitachi-america.us/products/consumer/tv/products/ultrathin_led/details/LE48W806.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 On a lighter note as I was out with friends - I was only following the game on twitter but the news of the first penalty taker and what happened caused huge amusement :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 I think our inability to score is becoming a worry - the tail end of last season was poor (4 points out of 18 I recall) and that was largely down to failure to score very many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Nobody is disputing that Wanyama is a good player or that strengh in depth is important. The point that Buctootim is making is that SFC/ NC and or MoPo have behaved a bit like a family on benefits, living on the bread line. What the family desperately need is some food (striker) and some clothes for the kids (defenders) but the parents have bought a 48" TV when they already have a working 46" TV. #Priorities For me defensive midfield is a key area in our system of pressing. This is the engine room and Cork and Morgan need help in this department. I think Wanyama was essential. I also agree that a striker appears essential to give us a top ten finish (I also question whether RL really fits the system that we play), but everyone is after a good striker and negotiations will be complicated and probably will go to deadline day for various reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Except that Southampton Football Club is a wealthy upper class family, which can afford all three and will buy all three. Agreed (although I think generally buying a good striker is harder than a defender or midfielder.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Interesting what some are saying about the lack of goals towards the end of the season. IMHO, I think it is mainly down to MoPo's tactics rather than Lambert or JayRod getting 'found out'. The biggest difference I have seen between Saints under MP compared to NA, other than the pressing - is how the fullbacks no longer commit to attack in the same gung-ho way. Certainly we are more cautious when breaking which has meant we have less supporting players SRL can bring in to play. I would also argue that SRL has played a huge mount of games in the last 4 years, with very little time out injured. A decent 10 goal a season striker to compliment JR and SRL would be all we will need (maybe another CB for strength in depth). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 I think many saying boldly we will get a striker have forgotten last year on how we were going to get a defender. Same determined posting that it will happen, a certainty.. I hope that we do sign a striker, because, if not we'll be damned at how things are progressing under Pochettino since the end of his period of grace last season. Why do you say such weird things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 I think our inability to score is becoming a worry - the tail end of last season was poor (4 points out of 18 I recall) and that was largely down to failure to score very many. Fans put too much weight on end-of-season form when we come into a new one, I think. That was a form thing and is unlikely to continue through 3 months of holiday and preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 On a lighter note as I was out with friends - I was only following the game on twitter but the news of the first penalty taker and what happened caused huge amusement :lol: Shame really because he actually had a really good 45 minutes, working very hard to create and had 2 great chances, the second he was denied by the woodwork. But sadly that is what you get when you follow things on Twitapp and don't know what has really gone on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 (edited) Whats that ? We need a striker to complement our tactics ? Who would have thought........ Since we signed Ramirez. Edited 4 August, 2013 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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