Saint-Armstrong Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 KICK-OFF: 19:00 BST Onto the fifth game of pre-season for Saints. But this one is a little different. What is the El Trofeo Memorial de Quinocho? The Quinocho Memorial Trophy, or el Trofeo Memorial de Quinocho to use its Spanish name, is an annual memorial trophy. It is played to commemorate the service and death of Joaquin Fernandez Santomé, or 'Quinocho', as he is known by the fans. Quinocho gave the club ten years of service between 1953 and 1963. Born in Vigo, Quinocho was a local hero, serving the club as player, manager and director. During his spell as manager he led the club to promotion to the Segunda Division in the 1980/81 season. He later led the club in five promotions to the top flight in 1975/76, 1977/78, 1981/82, 1984/85 and 1986/87. He met a tragic death, when on the 20th of October 1988, he was stabbed to death. A gang of robbers broke into the club offices in Vigo in search of the President, who was planning to move the team to San Sebastian (this being the destination of the train in the train crash last week). Quinocho stood up to the men and offered resistance, trying to prevent them from carrying out their plan. It was at this moment that they stabbed Quinocho, and left him for dead. He had a public funeral in the city of Vigo, and the streets were flooded with fans. This season provides the 18th edition of the memorial game, during the previous 17 years, Celta Vigo have won on 15 occasions. The two defeats both came against Portuguese opposition, in the form of Paços de Ferreira in 2010 and Vitória de Guimarães in 1997. Saints will become just the 2nd team from English soil to compete, following in the footsteps of Wigan Athletic, who contested last year's trophy. Celta Vigo ran out 1-0 winners on the day. The competition started in 1995, with Celta Vigo defeating SD Compostela by two goals to one. Since then the reputation of the competition has grown, with the likes of Real Betis, Athletic Bilbao, Olympiakos, Sporting Braga, Real Valladolid and AS Roma all taking part. The trophy is normally televised by a Spanish TV group in Vigo known as 'TVG'. Who are Celta Vigo? Real Club Celta de Vigo, or simply Celta Vigo, are a Spanish football club who were formed 89 years ago, on the 23rd of August 1923. The club came about after a merger of two local sides, Real Vigo Sporting and Real Fortuna. The club is known by the nickname of 'Os Celestes', which means 'The Sky Blues'. The club was voluntarily formed by the two major clubs of Vigo in order to compete at a higher level. This move came about due to the Basque sides in the Spanish Championship being the bane of their lives as they could not topple them to achieve at a higher level. The move was politically-charged and was pushed by local media and eventually the campaign fell at the feet of the two clubs. From here they decided it was in the best interests of all within the city of Vigo to have a football club that represented them all. Arguably the best phase in Celta's history came in the late 90s and early 00s. The club converted itself into a major force and cemented a reputation as a top six side. In fact in the 2001/02 season, the club did not drop below 6th place all season. To recall the names of some players from this time, I will go with: Pablo Cavallero, Claude Makelele, Aleksandr Mostovoi, Mazinho and Benni McCarthy. Their success and squad during this period earned them the nickname of 'EuroCelta' from the Spanish press. After finishing 4th in the 2001/02 season, the club qualified for the Champions League. The next season, during the Champions League campaign, they reached the last sixteen before losing out to Arsenal. However, this season saw them finish second bottom in La Liga, and they were relegated. They returned at the first time of asking, finishing second in the Segunda Division. They qualified for the UEFA Cup the next season by finishing 6th. The next season saw relegation again, as the club finished 18th in La Liga and narrowly avoided administration. This was to signal a five-year absence from the top flight. In 2012, Celta Vigo returned to La Liga. Last season, Celta survived on the final day of the season, finishing in 17th. Their 37 point total defeated Mallorca's total of 36 after Mallorca suffered a final day defeat. The club has since lost star striker Iago Aspas to Premier League outfit Liverpool. Where do they play? The Estadio Municipal de Balaídos, or simply 'Balaídos' as it is known, has been home to the club since 1928. Construction began in 1925 as the new club recognised needs for a new home. It has since experienced two expansions, in 1967 and 1982, before a renovation in 2004. The ground holds 31,800 spectators, so is not too dissimilar in size to St. Mary's. The stadium comprises of four stands: Tribuna, Río, Gol and Marcador. It is owned by the Council of the City of Vigo. Os Celestes are the only tenants, and always have been. What are the club colours? Celta Vigo wear sky blue shirts with white socks, and a variant of sky blue or white socks. The Club Anthem The club does not have an official anthem, but two popular and traditional songs invented by the fans include 'Always Vigo' and 'These Fans Won't Leave'. Match Details The game will be played at Celta Vigo's home of Balaídos in Vigo, Galicia. The game is a 19:00 BST kick-off on Saturday the 3rd of August 2013. In local time, that is 20:00. Celta will be in their home strip of sky blue and white, whilst Saints will be wearing their new black Adidas away kit for the first time. Once again, hope you found this useful/interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 Hopefully Ramirez and Yoshida get good game time. Would hope we go with a strong lineup and give most players 70+ mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 COYR, from Vigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 As always, thanks for the info. I wish I could be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 Very interesting, cheers. Looks like Wimbledon missed a trick here. All they needed to do to stop the move Milton Keynes was to go and knife a club legend and/or chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran1uk Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 Is there a stream for the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 Looks like Wimbledon missed a trick here. All they needed to do to stop the move Milton Keynes was to go and knife a club legend and/or chairman. Reckon Vinny Jones would have put up more resistance, would have blown them away with two smokin barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 Is there a stream for the game? Don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 What a shame you don't get stamps in your passport anymore when traveling in Europe as Mr & Mrs Saint Armstrong would have a nice little collection after this pre season is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 Brilliant write up which makes excellent reading. Shame the usual culprit couldn't raise himself and show appreciation. Rather he selfishly ignores your work and efforts by immediately twisting away from the topic to his own thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 Re. the train crash, I think you mean La Coruña or Santiago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 Anyone know if this is likely to be streamed anywhere tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 Ah crap sorry - just seen Kieran1uk asked the same question earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Ah crap sorry - just seen Kieran1uk asked the same question earlier. No stream ! Bolloks to that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 If it is on it might be here: http://celtatv.interoud.tv/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 okay its on tv i've found it but can't get a decent translation off this site to work out what channel its on or if there is a watch live button. Any spanish speakers on here can help? Plan is to get the definitive channel name that's broadcasting, then we can scour for live streams of that channel. And i'm not convinced it is simply called TvG2. http://www.crtvg.es/informativos/o-celta-presentase-en-balaidos-contra-o-southampton-as-20-00h-na-tvg2-635664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Looks to me more like Gallego than Spanish. TVG2 is a tv channel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TvG2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 cheers whitey so it is probably listed as G2 on tv streaming sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 See 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofeo_Ciudad_de_Vigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 When did the team fly back out? Flying out today and back overnight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan abnormal Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 expecting a strong team to be fielded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Can't be sure but the match might be shown on here from 5 minutes before kick off. http://www.crtvg.es/deportes/directo/canle/evento1 I would recommend installing foxy proxy or you might not get the stream https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxyproxy-standard/ Also might be worth trying suewhistles link to celta tv http://celtatv.interoud.tv/ fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 (edited) See 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofeo_Ciudad_de_Vigo Apparently this is not the same trophy, the OS mentioned that we had won this one in 1983 and pre-dates the memorial trophy that we are playing for today as described in the OP's nice introduction. Evidently we drew with Dynamo Bucharest 0-0 (5-4 on pens) and drew with Vigo 1-1, goal from Steve Moran. Don't remember this at all, luckily Duncan has it in In That Number. Still not sure about the reference to "Os Celestes" meaning Sky Blues. The translation would surely be the The Celestials I would have thought from my very very basic Spanish and schoolboy Latin. I guess it just means they have 2 nicknames, The Sky Blues and The Celestials. Edited 3 August, 2013 by VectisSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 For balance here is the Celta-Armstrong preview on this match which i have painstakingly translate from Celtaweb forum: XVIII MEMORIAL QUINOCHO Sabado 3 de agosto - 20:00 .................. Who are FC Southampton? President Carlos promised us a prestigious opponent for this match. Many were expecting a Liverpool, Arsenal or Milan, instead we have... FC Southampton of Southampton. Here is the scenes at ticket office on announcement of this fixture: We last played Southampton in 1984. No-one can remember the result. Since then they have mostly been playing in the third tier of English football. It's not all bad though, two years ago they secured a 2-2 draw against European giants and FA Cup Champions, Real Portsmouth of Portsmouth. They also once won the Johnstones Painting Trophy, which is the English football equivalent of Special School Egg & Spoon, i,e. you don't have to be good, you just have to be "least handicapped". Star Men Veteran winger Manuel Le Tissier is lethal from the penalty spot. Brazilian Striker Guido Pedro brings flair and goals to the attack. Left back Dante Fox is Hilarious. Where do they play? FC Southamton of Southampton, play in Southampton which is a picturesque suburb of London, known for its derelict town centre and lively chav culture. Here is pictures of Southampton: Fortunately, we are playing at home! What colours do they play in? Red. Sometimes white. They used to rock stripes but in recent years due to coastal geograhy and rising sea levels they have adopted white armbands, which in the event of flood tides can be inflated for life preservation. Match Predictions It would be a major shock if we do not despatch these hoofing minnows with minimum effort. FC Southampton coach Nicola Cortese does have tricks up his sleeve though, if the game is going badly he will despatch wing wizard Jose Puncheon to, quite literally, shit on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 That is right wicked, innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Apparently this is not the same trophy, the OS mentioned that we had won this one in 1983 and pre-dates the memorial trophy that we are playing for today as described in the OP's nice introduction. Evidently we drew with Dynamo Bucharest 0-0 (5-4 on pens) and drew with Vigo 1-1, goal from Steve Moran. Don't remember this at all, luckily Duncan has it in In That Number. Still not sure about the reference to "Os Celestes" meaning Sky Blues. The translation would surely be the The Celestials I would have thought from my very very basic Spanish and schoolboy Latin. I guess it just means they have 2 nicknames, The Sky Blues and The Celestials. Os Celestes 100% means The Sky Blues. The Celestials would be an incorrect (too literal) translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Os Celestes 100% means The Sky Blues. The Celestials would be an incorrect (too literal) translation. Thanks, you are right, finally found a dictionary, celeste does have 2 meanings: celeste adj 1 (=del cielo) heavenly 2 sky blue Reverse translation of sky-blue suggests celeste or azul celeste Here endeth today's Spanish lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Possibly your finest post ever Bearsy You been having any premonitions recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 (edited) Possibly your finest post ever Bearsy What he said. Well played Bearsy, top drawer. Edited 3 August, 2013 by Mallagroth obligatory smily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Nice work Bearsy: good to see you showing some previously unseen maturity in contributing such an excellent piece on the Main board. I am sure the regulars on here would like to see more informative pre match pieces like this from you. Without doubt Saint Armstrong will be delighted in knowing he has such able deputy: and from such an unexpected sauce too!! Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 3 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2013 SAINTS: K. Davis; Chambers, Lovren, Yoshida, Shaw; Wanyama, Schneiderlin; Ramírez, Lallana, Rodriguez; Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 @SouthamptonFC: #SaintsFC team vs @rccelta_oficial: K. Davis, Chambers, Lovren, Yoshida, Shaw, Wanyama, Schneiderlin, Ram?rez, Lallana, Rodriguez, Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 So, the first team are out tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Pretty much our strongest lineup apart from Boruc and Clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 No Boruc again?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 @SouthamptonFC: #SaintsFC subs vs @rccelta_oficial: Boruc, Gazzaniga, Fonte, Hooiveld, Fox, Cork, S. Davis, Ward-Prowse, Puncheon, Isgrove, Guly, Mayuka, Anyone know what's going on with Boruc? Or Davis just playing for no specific reason?! Bench still looks a tad week of attacking options... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 No Boruc again?!?! He is on the bench. Not sure why people get so funny about this. He is clearly the no 1 but the other keepers need games too. I'm sure he will be playing the final friendly and then vs WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Any streams around for tonight's game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 He is on the bench. Not sure why people get so funny about this. He is clearly the no 1 but the other keepers need games too. I'm sure he will be playing the final friendly and then vs WBA. I would like to see him build a good understanding with the defence. Boruc should be starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 He is on the bench. Not sure why people get so funny about this. He is clearly the no 1 but the other keepers need games too. I'm sure he will be playing the final friendly and then vs WBA. Should be starting, last season proved keepers need a run of games to produce their best. Strong side apart from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Good to see Chambers getting some time in with the first team, it'll be interesting to see he handles it, especially with lots of people on here saying that we lack for back up at RB. Expecting a run out from Mayuka and Isgrove too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 I don't know why people get worked up about the goalkeepers. Poch made it quite clear he was rotating the goalkeepers during pre-season. Boruc is clearly no.1 and will no doubt start next weekend and then on the first day of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Yeah can understand why we'd rotate before now, but we only have this game and Real Sociedad. It seems we're putting out our first team tonight, so it is a little odd Boruc isn't playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 No Boruc again?!?! Played the last friendly didn't he? Need to keep competition healthy and make sure Kelvin and Gazzaniga are match-fit and ready if called upon. Boruc looked really sharp in the last run out and has always been Poch's first-choice GK, so would be very surprised if he didn't start vs. West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Any streams around for tonight's game? I'm sort of hoping this is gonna start working nearer kickoff: http://www.crtvg.es/deportes/directo/canle/evento1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 I'm sort of hoping this is gonna start working nearer kickoff: http://www.crtvg.es/deportes/directo/canle/evento1 Thanks yo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Don't get yo hopes up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 Pretty much our strongest lineup apart from Boruc and Clyne. Puncheon for Lallana too IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 He is on the bench. Not sure why people get so funny about this. He is clearly the no 1 but the other keepers need games too. I'm sure he will be playing the final friendly and then vs WBA. Because he should be nowhere near the first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 3 August, 2013 Share Posted 3 August, 2013 I'm sort of hoping this is gonna start working nearer kickoff: http://www.crtvg.es/deportes/directo/canle/evento1 likewise this^ and trust me there is nothing else out there I spent hours looking this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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