Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 (edited) Who will be this years Whipping boy? Place your bets now.......... Edited 24 July, 2013 by Glasgow_Saint
VectisSaint Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Danny Fox it is then, not that there is any real competition. Given he does not even get selected for the 29 man squad selected by WGS for Scotland I think his standard is clear for all to see.
DuncanRG Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 All of the above minus Pochettino. If we buy any new attacking players they'll probably get some stick as well unless they score 30 goals in their first 10 games
Saint Charlie Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Was just about to say this. He blocked me on Twitter because I told him that our OS said Ramirez and Yoshida wouldn't play tonight, whilst he said the same thing prefixed by 'I understand' about three hours after it was in the OS. Best was when his Star article said we had bid 15m for Nainggolan and then he tweeted to deny it the same morning it was published!
Appy Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 He blocked me on Twitter because I told him that our OS said Ramirez and Yoshida wouldn't play tonight, whilst he said the same thing prefixed by 'I understand' about three hours after it was in the OS. Best was when his Star article said we had bid 15m for Nainggolan and then he tweeted to deny it the same morning it was published! Nearly everything he tweeted tonight could've been tweeted by people at home looking at the official saints tweets.
Saint Charlie Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Nearly everything he tweeted tonight could've been tweeted by people at home looking at the official saints tweets. Oh well, he works for his own agency so over there on a jolly. His Lambert quotes will probably be from the Saints Player interview. Bit of a joker really.
IronCitySaint Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Seems like some are lining up Lallana for this role. Hopefully Fox won't play so will not register. Personally, I plan to hate Ramirez this season unless he scores a minimum 15 goals and lasts 90 minutes on at least one occasion
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 July, 2013 Author Posted 24 July, 2013 Adam got an ENGLAND call up last season, then he got injured and didnt really get going again. Give him a chance and i think he will impress this coming season
Ziggy Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 I just don't understand the whipping boy concept. If they are wearing the stripes (or Swiss version of) then I am behind them.
tajjuk Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 itll be Gaston, even if he plays well I'm pretty sure some people have already made their minds up on him.
Crab Lungs Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Alex Crook called me a **** last night on Twitter. Probably the closest he's been to being correct about something all summer
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 July, 2013 Author Posted 24 July, 2013 (edited) Think he will be outstanding for us - saw a lot of French football last season and he was brilliant. A new hero for Saints I predict. Dont think we will concede many next season - him and Fonte will be a good partnership imho Edited 29 October, 2013 by Glasgow_Saint
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Itll be a new foreign winger I expect because he probably wont track back enough
saint_ed Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 He blocked me on Twitter because I told him that our OS said Ramirez and Yoshida wouldn't play tonight, whilst he said the same thing prefixed by 'I understand' about three hours after it was in the OS. Best was when his Star article said we had bid 15m for Nainggolan and then he tweeted to deny it the same morning it was published! I noticed that. Laughable
St Marco Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Since St Tommy has ****ed off to pastures new my guess would be either Davis or Boruc.
Pastor Patrón Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 I'm going for Pochettino, get off to anything but a flyer and it'll be quickly pointed out that his record is actually a bit gash so far.
Pedro Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Poor old Mayuka don't even get mentioned as a potential whipping boy, he must feel really isolated.
SNSUN Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Luke Shaw. He'll have a few poor games and people will suddenly forget he's only 18 and in (technically) his first full season.
cellone Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 Poor old Mayuka don't even get mentioned as a potential whipping boy, he must feel really isolated. Can't leave him out. He heads like Bret.
The9 Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 I just don't understand the whipping boy concept. If they are wearing the stripes then I am behind them. That means you're not supporting anyone this season then ?
The9 Posted 24 July, 2013 Posted 24 July, 2013 (edited) itll be Gaston, even if he plays well I'm pretty sure some people have already made their minds up on him. Pretty sure you're right. He's also going to be knackered from playing for two successive summers so when he doesn't start early in the season people will start jumping to conclusions... even though plenty of managers have chosen to rest "summer players" to give them a break, and he'll want to be peaking at the end of the season when the World Cup is looming. Edited 24 July, 2013 by The9
Ziggy Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 That means you're not supporting anyone this season then ? Yawn.
max_saints Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 fonte is shaping up nicely preseason in the whipping boy role
The9 Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 Yawn. It is boring that we're not wearing stripes for no apparent reason, yes.
The9 Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 It'll be Wanyama. But with so many black players for the mongs to target, how will their little minds cope ?
Mowgli Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 Alpine (or Glasgow) Saint. #like. Only on the basis that it is better to vent to each other than to the team we are supposed to support
Sour Mash Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 Pretty sure you're right. He's also going to be knackered from playing for two successive summers so when he doesn't start early in the season people will start jumping to conclusions... even though plenty of managers have chosen to rest "summer players" to give them a break, and he'll want to be peaking at the end of the season when the World Cup is looming. When has he played two successive summers?
Saint Charlie Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 When has he played two successive summers? Quite recently. Last summer (Olympics) and this summer (Confederations Cup).
Jez Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 But with so many black players for the mongs to target, how will their little minds cope ? is your "location" aimed directly at Alan Brazil? If not, would you mind please contacting him on behalf of me, so I don't have to mutter "premierleague" under my breath every 5 minutes when listening to him. Mucho appreciationo
Hamilton Saint Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 The "whipping boy", of course, is another type of scapegoat. The interesting idea for both is that they are not actually guilty of anything; they are punished as an expedience - they pay for the sins of others. It's not quite the same in footballing terms ; one or two players are often identified as the "weak links" in a team - because of continuing deficiencies in their performances. Their mistakes are noticed and criticised. But the "scapegoat" tendency is always there: you recognise that it invariably follows a dispiriting loss. Instead of holding a significant portion of the team to blame, the simple-minded like to latch on to their favourite bête-noire. There really is some important psychological issues at play here, and the current "whipping boy" often tells you more about the critics than you might imagine.
Sour Mash Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 Quite recently. Last summer (Olympics) and this summer (Confederations Cup). He hasn't played any football for a month and the last time he did it was 60 odd minutes against Tahiti. He had well over a month of no football between his last game for us and his first for Uruguay, he's played about the equivalent of 2 and a half games of football since the end of April. I think he's a class player with bags of potential, but there should be no reason for him being tired out.
Sour Mash Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 But with so many black players for the mongs to target, how will their little minds cope ?
DuncanRG Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 He hasn't played any football for a month and the last time he did it was 60 odd minutes against Tahiti. He had well over a month of no football between his last game for us and his first for Uruguay, he's played about the equivalent of 2 and a half games of football since the end of April. I think he's a class player with bags of potential, but there should be no reason for him being tired out. A month is nothing for a young player, and he will have had to keep to match fitness leading up to the Confeds. He's had far, far, far less rest than any of his team mates.
Saint Charlie Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 He hasn't played any football for a month and the last time he did it was 60 odd minutes against Tahiti. He had well over a month of no football between his last game for us and his first for Uruguay, he's played about the equivalent of 2 and a half games of football since the end of April. I think he's a class player with bags of potential, but there should be no reason for him being tired out. Tired no. Two disrupted pre seasons - yes.
Sour Mash Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 Tired no. Two disrupted pre seasons - yes. Right, but the discussion was about him being "knackered", so you agree with me.
Sour Mash Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 A month is nothing for a young player, and he will have had to keep to match fitness leading up to the Confeds. He's had far, far, far less rest than any of his team mates. A month isn't "nothing", it's what most top young internationals get. He would not have had the mental and physical drain of playing regularly, which is what most players say they really need a break from.
Mr X Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 I'm going for Pochettino, get off to anything but a flyer and it'll be quickly pointed out that his record is actually a bit gash so far. Im going for this too, do you think his record is gash so far then?
DuncanRG Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 A month isn't "nothing", it's what most top young internationals get. He would not have had the mental and physical drain of playing regularly, which is what most players say they really need a break from. Throw in injuries and bereavement and I'd say he's had other drains on his life. Anyway, this is all down to fitness and day to day training, which the guys at Southampton know a lot more about than we do.
Sour Mash Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 Anyway, this is all down to fitness and day to day training, which the guys at Southampton know a lot more about than we do. Yeah, best we never mention it again and just leave the guys to it.
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