pap Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 she doesn't get any money from the taxpayer. How do you know? Royal finances are exempt from FOI requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 #itk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 #itk #makingstuffupbecauseyouwantittobetrue ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 she doesn't get any money from the taxpayer. "The cost of transport and security for the Royal Family, together with property maintenance and other sundry expenses, are covered by separate grants from individual Government Departments." from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_list but it does go on to explain about the Crown Estate and how the monarchy and its hangers-on is / are funded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 "The cost of transport and security for the Royal Family, together with property maintenance and other sundry expenses, are covered by separate grants from individual Government Departments." from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_list but it does go on to explain about the Crown Estate and how the monarchy and its hangers-on is / are funded. she isn't a member of the royal family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 Tourists will visit the UK to see the queen ...... Exactly how many tourists get to see the Queen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 she isn't a member of the royal family. But she married well ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 http://www.republic.org.uk/What%20we%20want/In%20depth/Civil%20List/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 It's been named after George Dawes apparently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 I love all this Republican crap. Lets distribute the 7m Civil list across the country and behead the Royals. Lets destroying a living part of the nations history. For what ? How many nurses, teachers, soldiers, police, etc will 7m really bring ? How much revenue will London lose from tourism ? I can tell you the Schloss Schonbrün and the Gloriette in Vienna is cold, boring, dead and has no mystique compared to Buck House and the Mall. Subsequently there are no crowds milling around it 24 hours a day. How many flat-screen TVs, X-Boxes fags, cheap Tesco booze, drugs, etc will 7m get when spread across all the benefits scroungers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 I love all this Republican crap. Lets distribute the 7m Civil list across the country and behead the Royals. Lets destroying a living part of the nations history. For what ? How many nurses, teachers, soldiers, police, etc will 7m really bring ? How much revenue will London lose from tourism ? I can tell you the Schloss Schonbrün and the Gloriette in Vienna is cold, boring, dead and has no mystique compared to Buck House and the Mall. Subsequently there are no crowds milling around it 24 hours a day. How many flat-screen TVs, X-Boxes fags, cheap Tesco booze, drugs, etc will 7m get when spread across all the benefits scroungers ? Wrong side of the bed this morning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 Exactly how many tourists get to see the Queen ? It's the hope that kills them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 Wrong side of the bed this morning ? Nope. All but the last sentence, which is somewhat provactive I admit, is cold, hard fact. 7m Civil List is p*ss-ant compare to the defence, education and NHS budgets. And the tourist revenue of the whole black cab/red bus/Underground/buzby-wearing soldier/BuckHouse thing is astronomical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 Agreed, they probably pay more than 7m a day in VAT alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 Nope. All but the last sentence, which is somewhat provactive I admit, is cold, hard fact. 7m Civil List is p*ss-ant compare to the defence, education and NHS budgets. And the tourist revenue of the whole black cab/red bus/Underground/buzby-wearing soldier/BuckHouse thing is astronomical. You could pay the Royals less and they would still be there so it wouldn't effect tourist revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 You could pay the Royals less and they would still be there so it wouldn't effect tourist revenue. Given the independent wealth of the Royals, especially with the tax dodging that the Duchy of Cornwall carries out, perhaps the Civil List could be trimmed as a gesture given the austerity everybody else is going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 (edited) OK, I will throw the Republican movement an olive branch here.... I am not too impressed with the Royal couple decamping, mit bebé, to Bucklebury just sos Granny Middleton can help with the nappies and colc, considering that the police have had to turn Bucklebury, at taxpayers expense, into a place with security that would make the guards at Gitmo green with envy, when Kensington Palace has perfectly adequate security. I am wondering how the normal mundane baby things work here. If its anyone but Mum and Dad wiping the royal po-po, is there a Royal Protection Squad armed officer in the room ? Edited 25 July, 2013 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 I am VERY ambivalent about the Royal Family and the system of a constitutional monarchy. One the one hand, as a historical and cultural tradition that has managed to survive and evolve through the centuries, it is a fascinating phenomenon. And it provides regular bouts of unbeatable "pomp and circumstance". But on the other hand, it is hard to defend philosophically and politically. Inherited rank and privilege has no place in a truly democratic and equitable system. [Having said that, there are elements of the system that provide checks and balances that give more stability than is seen in other places of the world. But better systems can be devised.] Constitutional monarchy is a quaint and interesting thing - but it is used to prop up a class system that is ultimately undemocratic and socially divisive. So when push comes to shove, ultimately I'm a republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 "a truly democratic and equitable system" only exists in people's imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 25 July, 2013 Share Posted 25 July, 2013 "a truly democratic and equitable system" only exists in people's imagination. Granted, but it's a vision - or ideal - worth striving for, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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