Pilchards Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 That Cortese is struggling to get these other couple of players we need. I did find it funny that Pooch said we will get them on our terms and when we want etc... but you feel that the (so called targets of Leandre, Banega , Stoch, Osvaldo as fading. Is Cortese feeling the pressure like the other clubs or does he have a gem up his sleeve as he is waiting for Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd etc to get some players in to release ours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 yep. it is completely obvious. its obvious united, arsenal, spurs are all struggling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 Why so obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 If its so obvious why do you pose two possible scenarios one negative and one positive. I would say its far from obvious what's going on but I like loads on here are mature enough to just wait and see what unfolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 I disagree. Don't think much is 'obvious'. We may get our ambitious targets, we may alternatively instead opt for a second choice player, or we may opt to buy nobody if we can't attract a big name. No evidence we are struggling, just that we have very ambitious targets and aren't taking the expected types of bland mid-ranking premier players that we used to ten years ago (anyone for a Kenton, McCann, or Higginbotham?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 Why is it obvious? 2 of our targets are in the hutch - I expect more to follow - its just that the higher the calibre of target the more protracted the negotiations seem to become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 The Fabregas thing went on for years and that was Arsenal and Barcelona, it's not easy when you're in the top bracket, Chelsea Spurs and Man U are all wrangling and we're part of it now, so learn a little patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 I think thats a resounding "its NOT obvious". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 I guarantee you there at least 1-2 more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 Prior to the Wanyama signing, Pochettino said we'd be getting 2 or 3 new players. We have one of the those in VW already, and taking MP at his word, either one or two to get. Early yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 where is trousers and his bill murray photo when you need it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 Transfer season is split into 2 waves, I think we are just about to hit the 2nd half. 1st half - Fantasy land - all players, agents and clubs put out ridiculous numbers and over estimate their value and only the very rich (a la PSG/Monaco/City/Madrid) pay them to close the deals. 2nd half- Reality - After fantasy land is over the people left on the shelf realise they aren't going to get picked up in the 1st wave and start to reassess the offers tabled as they realise that the demand wasn't as they originally perceived. I suspect we have put maybe 2 to 3 solid offers on the table and have said they expire end July whilst we go away and begin pre-season. Therefore as we go into the 2nd wave the targets and clubs are reviewing these offers and begin to negotiate with the clubs as the pendulum swings back to the clubs who put the offers in as people have a fear of missing out so look to close the deals, this is where NC would have the stronger hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 More a case of players agents struggling to get what they want from Cortese than the other way round IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 If anyone's struggling it's Arsenal. Before I went on holiday in June they were "close" to signing Higuain. That's still not complete. Sanogo is a decent free transfer but when media reports state that Wenger has a big budget to play with, and they haven't signed anyone for money, Arsenal fans must be spitting blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 Bed wetting. Most of the clubs going for big signings have seen them drag on. There's no need to panic anyway. Even if we'd made no signings I think we'd have come back stronger than last season after a full pre-season with MP. Chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 That Cortese is struggling to get these other couple of players we need. I did find it funny that Pooch said we will get them on our terms and when we want etc... but you feel that the (so called targets of Leandre, Banega , Stoch, Osvaldo as fading. Is Cortese feeling the pressure like the other clubs or does he have a gem up his sleeve as he is waiting for Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd etc to get some players in to release ours? You forgot to add the world-beating, would-be marque signing you saw being shown around SMS a week or so ago. I know what's obvious, sunshine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 I think we've done alright so far! Lovren is a top class defender, and Wanyama who is very highly rated we signed on our terms. Still plenty of time, alot of transfers drag out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 We be great to get 2-3 more in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 We be great to get 2-3 more in Still a month until the start of the season and a month and a half (ish) until the end of the transfer window. I reckon we'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 Still a month until the start of the season and a month and a half (ish) until the end of the transfer window. I reckon we'll be fine. Just hope its quality additions and not something underwhelming. With all the quality weve been linked with, it would be disappointing now to not get at least one more big signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 I made a post a few weeks back saying i reckon we will announce a player out of the blue that we have not been linked with,I still reckon we will . I doubt it's a easy as phoning a club and offering x amount of £££ for a player,they accept and player X is at the club the next day. the better the player the longer the deal will drag out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 I made a post a few weeks back saying i reckon we will announce a player out of the blue that we have not been linked with,I still reckon we will . I doubt it's a easy as phoning a club and offering x amount of £££ for a player,they accept and player X is at the club the next day. the better the player the longer the deal will drag out Why do you think this? I would say it is very unlikely looking at our transfer history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 (edited) Why do you think this? I would say it is very unlikely looking at our transfer history. De Ridder/Yoshida/Mayuka/Forren were pretty much all out of the blue,maybe the day before it was rumoured,if we get one of our "top" targets then I assume it has already been reported/covered but I am sure we will get in a winger that has gone completely under the radar Edited 20 July, 2013 by pangy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 I can't believe no one has said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 Just hope its quality additions and not something underwhelming. With all the quality weve been linked with, it would be disappointing now to not get at least one more big signing Agree with your second point, the club announcing we're interested in Damiano, Wanyama and Benega certainly raised our expectations. They've achieved one of those - but now our hopes have been raised with the other two positions, makin an underwhelming signing could annoy Saints fans. That said, someone we find 'underwhelming' doesn't necessarily mean he'll have a poor season - sometimes it's the players we sign cheaply or with little reputation that can make the most impact. Looking back at our recent history, nobody knew much about Pahars, Beattie or Davies but all went on to have a big impact on us. Then there's the failure factor - signing a big name on big money brings with it expectations. Ramirez for instance was our record signing and came with a big reputation for a youngster, so judging by those standards he had a poor season. Had we signed him with no reputation and little money, his stats - 5 goals and 3 assists in only 20 starts - is a fairly decent return for a midfielder. (Although granted, expensive or not he should have made more starts. I think injury and suspension didn't help with those...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 That Cortese is struggling to get these other couple of players we need. I did find it funny that Pooch said we will get them on our terms and when we want etc... but you feel that the (so called targets of Leandre, Banega , Stoch, Osvaldo as fading. Is Cortese feeling the pressure like the other clubs or does he have a gem up his sleeve as he is waiting for Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd etc to get some players in to release ours? May I offer a reminder about basic forum etiquette? Give your thread a title that indicates what the subject is. "I think it's obvious" could be about anything. If you had called this thread "Obvious that Cortese struggles to find players", I would have known what it was about and avoided it! Danke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 That Cortese is struggling to get these other couple of players we need. I did find it funny that Pooch said we will get them on our terms and when we want etc... but you feel that the (so called targets of Leandre, Banega , Stoch, Osvaldo as fading. Is Cortese feeling the pressure like the other clubs or does he have a gem up his sleeve as he is waiting for Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd etc to get some players in to release ours? May I offer a reminder about basic forum etiquette? Give your thread a title that indicates what the subject is. "I think it's obvious" could be about anything. If you had called this thread "Obvious that Cortese struggles to find players", I would have known what it was about and avoided it! Danke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 20 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 July, 2013 You forgot to add the world-beating, would-be marque signing you saw being shown around SMS a week or so ago. I know what's obvious, sunshine.... I never once said I saw such & such being shown around St Mary's however a top player was rumoured to have been shown around the stadium with Wanyama and that's just not me saying that. A few people on here heard it and a couple of players have told some fans too. If it was Osvaldo as rumoured (by a player ) then maybe he is still thinking it over or he is not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 20 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 July, 2013 May I offer a reminder about basic forum etiquette? Give your thread a title that indicates what the subject is. "I think it's obvious" could be about anything. If you had called this thread "Obvious that Cortese struggles to find players", I would have known what it was about and avoided it! Danke! May I remind you to make sure you don't double post as some people on here don't want repeated ******s. Danke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 What is obvious, although not to some on here, that there are numerous other clubs across Europe who would be more attractive to a player than us for a number of reasons. It's great to have ambition but we so have to accept that not everyone we try to sign always dreamed of playing for Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 20 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 20 July, 2013 What is obvious, although not to some on here, that there are numerous other clubs across Europe who would be more attractive to a player than us for a number of reasons. It's great to have ambition but we so have to accept that not everyone we try to sign always dreamed of playing for Southampton. Very true and I bet Cortese is doing his best to sell us to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 Going on the current requirement of signing young players who will progress and blossom at Saints, how many prolific big name strikers are there under the age of 23? Stands to reason that we will not make a grandstand striker signing that we need to enhance the first team, which we are all hoping for. Could we get Damaio, Munian or De Jong in reality or will they go to Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool or one of the big italian teams which will be the competition we are up against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 I think it's obviously not obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 I think it's obviously not obvious. I suggest we have a poll to see if it is obvious or not obvious. The result of the poll will obviously indicate the obviousness or otherwise. Of course the option of undecided might make the obviousness less obviously clear. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 20 July, 2013 Share Posted 20 July, 2013 Some very obvious points being made here and some not so obvious ones too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 21 July, 2013 Share Posted 21 July, 2013 May I remind you to make sure you don't double post as some people on here don't want repeated ******s. Danke Yeah, it was bound to happen, eh?! I blame the fuc*ed-up computer in the lobby of the Zurich hotel we're staying in. But, will be home soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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