peacey Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 SORT Southampton FC News and Updates Inter have begun talks to bring Southampton attacker Gaston Ramirez back to the Serie A. The Uruguayan left Bologna last summer to join the Hampshire club for a fee of €14 million, but the Beneamata are keen to bring him to Italy where he would link up with compatriot Diego Laxalt at the club. ... Tuttomercatoweb report that the Nerazzurri have opened talks with Southampton to bring the 22-year-old back to Italy and give new coach Walter Mazzarri another attacking option. Mazzarri is a fan of Ramirez due to his ability to play in several attacking positions, and would join Ishak Belfodil and Mauro Icardi as the Nerazzurri look to reshape their squad with young and talented players for the new campaign. In 26 Premier League appearances for Southampton last season, Ramirez scored five goals as the Saints secured their stay in the top flight with a 14th place finish.See more Like · · Share · 1 · 3 minutes ago · James Allan Sloper likes this. I hope to god this is ********. We need him here
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 If we could get our money back id snap there hand off
pangy Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 This was reported in mid june,I am pretty sure this is just a re-hash,I doubt very much we would sell Gaston this summer,MoPo has stated that he is part of his plans for next season
peacey Posted 18 July, 2013 Author Posted 18 July, 2013 I really hope your right pangy. Could become a great player for us
skintsaint Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DTuttomercatoweb%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DvAF%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official can't see anything on there..
peacey Posted 18 July, 2013 Author Posted 18 July, 2013 One thing that worries me though, is that he has not reported for preseason yet? Anyone know why this is, because as far as I know, everyone else is there. [with an exception to the players who have been told to find new clubs]
Barry Sanchez Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Lets not, if we could get £10 Million for him we could invest it on a football player.
Barry Sanchez Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 One thing that worries me though, is that he has not reported for preseason yet? Anyone know why this is, because as far as I know, everyone else is there. [with an exception to the players who have been told to find new clubs] He is not fit and cant get on the plane.
S-Clarke Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 One thing that worries me though, is that he has not reported for preseason yet? Anyone know why this is, because as far as I know, everyone else is there. [with an exception to the players who have been told to find new clubs] Because he was involved right up until the end of the confed's cup, he's been given the longest leave. He joins this weekend I believe. He has been back at the club for some tests, and was obviously part of the new kit shoot.
Cabrone Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Would be a huge shame to let him go when he really hasn't got going yet. I think he'll be a big part of the team this season if he stays.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Lets not, if we could get £10 Million for him we could invest it on a football player. If we could get £10m for Ramirez and pay £9m for Benega i will lock my transfer committee thread as all will be forgiven
itchen_dan Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DTuttomercatoweb%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DvAF%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official can't see anything on there.. http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/esclusiva-tmw-inter-si-lavora-al-grande-colpo-avviata-la-trattativa-per-ramirez-467083 EXCLUSIVE TMW - Inter, working on big shot:, negotiations for Ramirez 18.07.2013 19:18 by Simon Bernabei article read 13150 times © photo by Federico De Luca After Diego Laxalt could get another shot Uruguayan's degree in Inter house. The latest rumors collected exclusively by TuttoMercatoWeb.com in fact speak of well-established contacts between the leadership and Inter Gastòn Ramirez of Southampton. The former number 10 of Bologna, passed in 2012 at the English club, is the latest idea of Branca and Aid, which after Belfodil and Icard want to give another young talent to Walter Mazzarri. Ramirez like, as well as the age, even for adaptability to the offensive schemes of technical Saint Vincent and the fact that already knows the Italian championship. Contacts, as mentioned, have already started and in the coming days it is possible that England can get important news in this regard.
peacey Posted 18 July, 2013 Author Posted 18 July, 2013 Serious question, don't you guys think he will come good for us this season then? Providing he stays that is.
Saint Charlie Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 He will only go if we want him to, which I doubt.
Black Sea Saint Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Serious question, don't you guys think he will come good for us this season then? Providing he stays that is. no!
RonManager Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Serious question, don't you guys think he will come good for us this season then? Providing he stays that is. As the great Kenny Dalglish once said, when asked about something or other - 'Mebbez Aye, Mebbez Nae.'
The Kraken Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Serious question, don't you guys think he will come good for us this season then? Providing he stays that is. For me its more a case of cutting losses; I've not really seen enough of him to suggest that he can consistently get on the ball and influence games as much as he perhaps should. Plus I'd prefer to see Lallana in that number 10 role, which I think would play to his strengths much more and bring the best out of him; that would also allow us to bring in some real quality to play wide midfield as I don't see persisting with Rodriguez out there as our best option.
peacey Posted 18 July, 2013 Author Posted 18 July, 2013 For me its more a case of cutting losses; I've not really seen enough of him to suggest that he can consistently get on the ball and influence games as much as he perhaps should. Plus I'd prefer to see Lallana in that number 10 role, which I think would play to his strengths much more and bring the best out of him; that would also allow us to bring in some real quality to play wide midfield as I don't see persisting with Rodriguez out there as our best option. Good post. Yes I do agree to a degree. Remember all the hype when we signed Gaston.... If we can bring in a better player as a result then I am ok with it, otherwise I would like to give him ago until jan and revaluate then.
RonManager Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Serious question, don't you guys think he will come good for us this season then? Providing he stays that is. As the great Bob Mortimer used to say on Shooting Stars - 'We just don't know Vic, we just don't know'.
Made in Southampton Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 I hope he stays. Pure and simply for the bloke I saw in Sainsburys with 'Gaston' on the back of his new Saints shirt..............
Saint Charlie Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 For me its more a case of cutting losses; I've not really seen enough of him to suggest that he can consistently get on the ball and influence games as much as he perhaps should. Plus I'd prefer to see Lallana in that number 10 role, which I think would play to his strengths much more and bring the best out of him; that would also allow us to bring in some real quality to play wide midfield as I don't see persisting with Rodriguez out there as our best option. Sorry, but Ramirez is better than Lallana.
Rebel Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 I fully expect Jay Rodriguez to start the season as our main striker
The Kraken Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Sorry, but Ramirez is better than Lallana. Sorry Charlie, but I don't believe he is. And I certainly don't think we're as good a side with both of them playing.
Wade Garrett Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 I fully expect Jay Rodriguez to start the season as our main striker He'll score 20 goals next season.
Saint Garrett Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Sorry Charlie, but I don't believe he is. And I certainly don't think we're as good a side with both of them playing. I love Lallana, but Gaston is considerably better than him. Has much more end product, and more about him. Plus he's got much more potential IMO.
The Kraken Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 I love Lallana, but Gaston is considerably better than him. Has much more end product, and more about him. Plus he's got much more potential IMO. Opinions Garrett. I don't particularly love Lallana, in fact I think he had a poor season last season. But in the PL I think he's wasted out wide but just the player we need in the number 10 role. Whereas I don't see a huge amount of improvement from Ramirez, he didn't have a great season either but I think Lallana suits our need much better. Different types of players, Gaston is a bit more direct whereas Lallana is a bit more tricky. If nothing else I'd like to see Lallana be given the chance he was being primed for before we signed Ramirez, just to see if I'm right or wrong.
Pastor Patrón Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 I love Lallana, but Gaston is considerably better than him. Has much more end product, and more about him. Plus he's got much more potential IMO. Ramirez made Puncheon look good, that's how good Ramirez is.
JoeShmoe Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 If we could get £10m for Ramirez and pay £9m for Benega i will lock my transfer committee thread as all will be forgiven This x 100
Saint Charlie Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 This x 100 Or we have both as will most likely happen?
scotty Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Ramirez is a class up from Adam, though it pains me to say it. His dead-ball deliveries are shockingly bad, and he has an awful habit of picking up the ball near the box and doing the south american thing of running into the nearest pack of defenders for no apparent reason (other than, presumably, to play for the pen,) but those faults aside he is world class. And we dont actually have to let him take free kicks and corners, so......
SaintSteve Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Sorry, but Ramirez is better than Lallana. Couldn't agree more.. stronger, will score more goals and has a killer pass.. this season is make or break for lallana in terms of EPL material.
Saint Garrett Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 FWIW I thought Puncheon had a fantastic season last season. I didn't think I'd be saying that this time last year !
The Kraken Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Ramirez is a class up from Adam, though it pains me to say it. His dead-ball deliveries are shockingly bad, and he has an awful habit of picking up the ball near the box and doing the south american thing of running into the nearest pack of defenders for no apparent reason (other than, presumably, to play for the pen,) but those faults aside he is world class. And we dont actually have to let him take free kicks and corners, so...... Depends what your definition of "world class" is; but Ramirez doesn't get close to any of my benchmarks for the description, that's for sure.
Pastor Patrón Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Ramirez is a class up from Adam, though it pains me to say it. His dead-ball deliveries are shockingly bad, and he has an awful habit of picking up the ball near the box and doing the south american thing of running into the nearest pack of defenders for no apparent reason (other than, presumably, to play for the pen,) but those faults aside he is world class. And we dont actually have to let him take free kicks and corners, so...... So what's he actually good at other then costing lots?
mattyd Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 One thing that worries me though, is that he has not reported for preseason yet? Anyone know why this is, because as far as I know, everyone else is there. [with an exception to the players who have been told to find new clubs] He was in the confederations cup and therefore still on holiday
Giordano Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Wow. Divisive topic. Some considered comments. Some by obvious wums who think they are wittier than they actually are. For those that want him to go irrespective- first of all how come that no mark team Inter Milan fancy our player? Secondly how come they think he might be worth 10m after what by all accounts was a bad season with saints? They must be mad or idiots right? Or maybe you are? Which? Or both? Is he really worth 10m now despite being supposedly worse than anyone in our transfer history? Are we lucky to get such mugs to want this hopeless player? Feel sorry for our next flair player tbh. And if he goes and AL does not deliver who will you turn on next? The ones who try to play football always get the haters on their back quickly. Just glad you were not around when MLT was at his peak of strolling around but scoring. You would have sold him to those mugs from Tottenham and got a packhorse fast running mf instead.
DanW Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 We are not selling him unless we can get 150%+ of the fee we paid. We are not a selling club.
Olallana Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Wow. Divisive topic. Some considered comments. Some by obvious wums who think they are wittier than they actually are. For those that want him to go irrespective- first of all how come that no mark team Inter Milan fancy our player? Secondly how come they think he might be worth 10m after what by all accounts was a bad season with saints? They must be mad or idiots right? Or maybe you are? Which? Or both? Is he really worth 10m now despite being supposedly worse than anyone in our transfer history? Are we lucky to get such mugs to want this hopeless player? Feel sorry for our next flair player tbh. And if he goes and AL does not deliver who will you turn on next? The ones who try to play football always get the haters on their back quickly. Just glad you were not around when MLT was at his peak of strolling around but scoring. You would have sold him to those mugs from Tottenham and got a packhorse fast running mf instead. :adore:
scotty Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 So what's he actually good at other then costing lots? Just about everything from midfield on, apart from dead-balls and occasional misjudgements about trying to run through packed defences instead of passing. iirc, Gary Neville mentioned him as the hardest player in the PL to defend against last season, and Lambert said he was (one of?/the?) the most talented player in the squad.
Saint_Ash Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 In my opinion Gaston is our best player, you can see he is technically gifted. He's still young and we haven't seen the best of him, fair enough if he struggles to get going in the first half of the season and a large amount comes knocking then think about moving him on but I reckon we should let poch have a decent pre season with him and see what he can do.
SaintSteve Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Depends what your definition of "world class" is; but Ramirez doesn't get close to any of my benchmarks for the description, that's for sure. Ramirez has the potential to become World Class given time.. lallana will never get in that category. I think the initial outlay of 12M has given people the idea that he should be world class already.. think 35M for Carroll and then re-evaluate
Jonnyboy Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Surely a straight swap for Damaio would suit everyone??
Leicestersaint Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 I think he will come good this season - he has enormous potential - I doubt we would let him go.
Ohio Saint Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 I'm perfectly happy to judge Gaston on the upcoming season. Sure, I was disappointed last season, but some foreign players need longer to gel.
Raging Bull Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 For fu** sake, give the bloke a chance. He showed plenty of times what he can do, one season isn't enough.
The Kraken Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 In my opinion Gaston is our best player, you can see he is technically gifted. He's still young and we haven't seen the best of him, fair enough if he struggles to get going in the first half of the season and a large amount comes knocking then think about moving him on but I reckon we should let poch have a decent pre season with him and see what he can do. Season 2014-15 it is then.
ottery st mary Posted 18 July, 2013 Posted 18 July, 2013 Top class player...who i really hope stays and plays for the mighty Saints.. Gaston is class and will only get better.
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