sentry Posted 15 July, 2013 Share Posted 15 July, 2013 Lots going on tonight. Lukaku is 20, wants to play, not just out for pay, big, strong, bags of potential. Sure he is not the best in the World, but he is 20~! Drogba was 24 when he got 17 goals in a season and he played 34 that year. Lukaku was used by WBA to come off the bench in a lot of games last year, why? I dont know but I think for around 20 mil he would be a great signing. Saying that!!!! There was a guy from the Belgium FA on Radio 5 live about a year ago saying he is over rated and that guy worked for the Belgium FA,,,, mind you if they are anything like the English FA then sign him up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 15 July, 2013 Share Posted 15 July, 2013 Is he hungry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 July, 2013 Share Posted 15 July, 2013 If true, this would be a fantastic signing for Saints. It's almost certainly not going to happen though. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzybear Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 I've not seen anything written on this anywhere else but on SWF, it's seems to be gaining quite a head of steam without any links, sources, quotes etc. very exciting stuff if true.... BIG if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benj540 Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 Why would they sell for 20m when he's proven himself in the prem since joining? He's already extremely dangerous, and clearly going to improve. He'll be one of the best in Europe in a few years. I'd be amazed if Chelsea don't give him a chance and more surprised if he wanted to come here. Would be a brilliant signing though. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 Why would they sell for 20m when he's proven himself in the prem since joining? He's already extremely dangerous, and clearly going to improve. He'll be one of the best in Europe in a few years. I'd be amazed if Chelsea don't give him a chance and more surprised if he wanted to come here. Would be a brilliant signing though. TO be fair though. When have Chelsea under Roman EVER worried about "in a few years" Their managers are lucky to last 18 months. JM will not be interested or worried about a player who MIGHT be good he will be buying CONSISTENCY at the highest level. They play around 60 games a year. He needs another striker to share the load (that's 30 starts EACH) with Torres, that leaves Ba & Lukaku as his back ups for the season... Are either of those players good enough to win the PL AND the CL for him THIS year IF one of Torres or new signing get crocked? I doubt it and I would expect him to try and sign better than he has. At the moment he still needs a number one, but I would expect him to be looking for better. Would not be surprised to see this as a "End of Window" deal when he has found out IF he can get 2 strikers in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 Hs he signed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 TO be fair though. When have Chelsea under Roman EVER worried about "in a few years" Their managers are lucky to last 18 months. JM will not be interested or worried about a player who MIGHT be good he will be buying CONSISTENCY at the highest level. They play around 60 games a year. He needs another striker to share the load (that's 30 starts EACH) with Torres, that leaves Ba & Lukaku as his back ups for the season... Are either of those players good enough to win the PL AND the CL for him THIS year IF one of Torres or new signing get crocked? I doubt it and I would expect him to try and sign better than he has. At the moment he still needs a number one, but I would expect him to be looking for better. Would not be surprised to see this as a "End of Window" deal when he has found out IF he can get 2 strikers in It's no secret that Chelsea are after a striker, first was Falcao, then Cavani, now it's looking like Suarez or Rooney. I've also seen nothing that indicates that Torres is leaving so either Mourinho has some faith that he can re-discover his form (unlikely he will ever get back to his best because he's lost his acceleration that made him so dangerous) or basically he's been told by Roman that they aren't going to abandon a £50 million striker as they would probably have to give him away for someone to take on his wages. As Mourinho is very likely to play one striker (they now have Hazard, Schurlle, Marin, Oscar, Mata, Moses etc. as attacking mids) That leaves Lukaku potentially third choice behind their next big buy and Torres. Now he may want to fight for his place and he's said doesn't want to go on loan, but in a world cup year he'll want football, with the right clauses so he can leave us in a couple of years if a bigger club comes knocking I'd could see us convincing him, especially if Rooney or Suarez walked in the door in the next couple of weeks. I can also see Chelsea selling, if they don't see him as first choice, with financial fair play us chucking them £20 million would soften the blow of the £40 million odd they need for Suarez. Still unlikely but there is some logic in this. Couldn't see anything happening unless Chelsea brought some other strikers in and Ba will go first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 It's no secret that Chelsea are after a striker, first was Falcao, then Cavani, now it's looking like Suarez or Rooney. I've also seen nothing that indicates that Torres is leaving so either Mourinho has some faith that he can re-discover his form (unlikely he will ever get back to his best because he's lost his acceleration that made him so dangerous) or basically he's been told by Roman that they aren't going to abandon a £50 million striker as they would probably have to give him away for someone to take on his wages. As Mourinho is very likely to play one striker (they now have Hazard, Schurlle, Marin, Oscar, Mata, Moses etc. as attacking mids) That leaves Lukaku potentially third choice behind their next big buy and Torres. Now he may want to fight for his place and he's said doesn't want to go on loan, but in a world cup year he'll want football, with the right clauses so he can leave us in a couple of years if a bigger club comes knocking I'd could see us convincing him, especially if Rooney or Suarez walked in the door in the next couple of weeks. I can also see Chelsea selling, if they don't see him as first choice, with financial fair play us chucking them £20 million would soften the blow of the £40 million odd they need for Suarez. Still unlikely but there is some logic in this. Couldn't see anything happening unless Chelsea brought some other strikers in and Ba will go first. They've publicly stated he's not a target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 And I think JM is as secure as a Chelsea manager can be, surely Abramovich has realised change gets him nowhere? You say that, but change has got him two league titles, four FA cups and a Champions League trophy. You're right that Mourinho will be more stable though...so long as he wins. If Chelsea do decide to sell Lukaku we'd probably have to pay more than £20m - they paid £10m for him from Belgium, rising with £17m with add-ons. We can only speculate as to what those add-ons are though I guess, he hasn't made loads of Chelsea appearances or earned any medals so perhaps they haven't paid out much yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 We need to sign a few Belgian internationals. Their international team is quite something and it wont be long before they start winning big competitions. Imagine Astori, Lukaku and Banega... Only one of those payers is Belgian? and we won't be signing Astori now, so no point imagining that. I do agree that the future is looking bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 They've publicly stated he's not a target. Overuse of a smilie tends to devalue its effect. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Wonder if as it looks likely Rooney wants out at Man U. If he goes to chelsea how that will affect the availability of their exsiting forwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 They've publicly stated he's not a target. exactly! saints said the same about yoshida..... doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Mourinho remains in the market for a striker and would ideally like to secure the recruit well before Chelsea's start to the Premier League season on 18 August. Yet any signing would apparently not jeopardise Fernando Torres' standing with the manager reluctant to part with any of his senior squad. Link to Guardian article Putting two and two together that makes it sound like Lukaku would be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Chelsea had a bid turned down for Rooney then. Seems they're not happy with their current striking options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Chelsea had a bid turned down for Rooney then. Seems they're not happy with their current striking options. Chelsea are understood to have offered £10m in cash plus a player, thought to be either Juan Mata or David Luiz, in part exchange for the 27-year-old say what! seems a crazy offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Got to think it's more likely they'll get rid of Torres and/or Ba, rather than Lukaku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Got to think it's more likely they'll get rid of Torres and/or Ba, rather than Lukaku. Why? Torres is a proven CL level striker. He may be pretty sh1t at PL level but next level up he did a fine job for Chelsea. Ba & Lukaku are PL standard strikers. They are NOT CL level strikers. JM doesn't need a Rooney or Suarez to be able to do the first job of winning the PL and if it was ONLY that which he is judged against then he would let Torres go. But JM could win the PL by a mile but if he gets knocked out in the group stages of the CL he would be in trouble. JM needs BETTER than Ba or Lukaku are or he needs two sets of strikers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Why would anyone not want Lukaku? He's 20 years old and scored a goal every other game in the prem last year for a moderately succesful team, I agree his record for Belgium is lacking but his value can only go up from the asking price really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Got to think it's more likely they'll get rid of Torres and/or Ba, rather than Lukaku. Ba is being touted to everyone. WBA were in for him but his wages are huge so they said no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Why? Torres is a proven CL level striker. He may be pretty sh1t at PL level but next level up he did a fine job for Chelsea. Ba & Lukaku are PL standard strikers. They are NOT CL level strikers. JM doesn't need a Rooney or Suarez to be able to do the first job of winning the PL and if it was ONLY that which he is judged against then he would let Torres go. But JM could win the PL by a mile but if he gets knocked out in the group stages of the CL he would be in trouble. JM needs BETTER than Ba or Lukaku are or he needs two sets of strikers Because Lukaku is still very young and already has a very successful premier league season under his belt. He is a superb talent, and the nearest that JM will get to having another Drogba. Ba is average, and although I rate Torres, he's not the player he was 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Ba is being touted to everyone. WBA were in for him but his wages are huge so they said no thanks. I expect to see him back at WHU. They pay ridiculous wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Got to think it's more likely they'll get rid of Torres and/or Ba, rather than Lukaku. Why? Torres is a proven CL level striker. He may be pretty sh1t at PL level but next level up he did a fine job for Chelsea. Ba & Lukaku are PL standard strikers. They are NOT CL level strikers. JM doesn't need a Rooney or Suarez to be able to do the first job of winning the PL and if it was ONLY that which he is judged against then he would let Torres go. But JM could win the PL by a mile but if he gets knocked out in the group stages of the CL he would be in trouble. JM needs BETTER than Ba or Lukaku are or he needs two sets of strikers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Chelsea had a bid turned down for Rooney then. Seems they're not happy with their current striking options. Maybe this is the start of mind games 2 starting. Unsettle Wiggy, therefore cause upset in the ranks at Manure, thus causing a bad start to the season, ergo, giving Chelski a points start. Just a thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Maybe this is the start of mind games 2 starting. Unsettle Wiggy, therefore cause upset in the ranks at Manure, thus causing a bad start to the season, ergo, giving Chelski a points start. Just a thought! I actually had that thought too, but a bit early for that I think...? If they made it a week before the league started.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Utd saying it was £10m + one of Mata or Luiz, Chelsea saying it was cash with no players involved! Looking forward to hearing what JM has to say about that one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Lukaku's just scored a penalty for Chelsea in a pre-season friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 I think Rooney's position at United is now untenable, and he is/will be going to Chelsea. What that means in regards to Chelsea's position on Lukaku i am not sure. I also imagine WBA would have first dibs on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 I think Rooney's position at United is now untenable, and he is/will be going to Chelsea. What that means in regards to Chelsea's position on Lukaku i am not sure. I also imagine WBA would have first dibs on him If we're talking about a permanent ransfer will West Brom be able to afford the fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 This would be awesome, mate is a Baggie fan and was so sad to see him go, great signing, our biggest for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 If we're talking about a permanent ransfer will West Brom be able to afford the fee? + they have Anelka now on £250k per week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 Got to think it's more likely they'll get rid of Torres and/or Ba, rather than Lukaku. Torres is nothing like as bad as people make out yet they would take a massive loss on him, Ba will be out the doir first. JM is trying to unsettle Rooney, WR wants out, so making the bid public they make sure he knows he has options. He will be gone before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 17 July, 2013 Share Posted 17 July, 2013 I think Rooney's position at United is now untenable, and he is/will be going to Chelsea. What that means in regards to Chelsea's position on Lukaku i am not sure. I also imagine WBA would have first dibs on him Are we not going for Rooney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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