georgeweahscousin Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 I had a convo on twitter with some Celtic fans suggesting Sharp would be a decent replacement for Hooper (who looks certain to be off). This morning 'The People' are suggesting that they are after him. Not suggesting they picked it up from my convo, but funny coincidence. Anyway, be funny after all that 'too good for Saints' stuff if they sign a player that can't even get on our bench. Think he would score hatfuls up there though, would be a great move for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 IMO Billy's too good for them and is smart enough to not go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Would be an excellent move for him. Not good enough for us anymore but would do well at a club like Celtic in a league like the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 I'd be delighted for billy if he got he chance at Celtic. Those who think he should play championship instead of champions league, who should be hoping to get promoted or play offs instead of a league and cup double in scotland need to wake up. He would be loved there by millions of fans worldwide plus score lots- and get paid too. whats not to like? If he gets the chance I'm sure he'd grab it with both hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 14 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2013 He wouldn't get paid much (relatively). Wanyama was on £5k a week. Hooper is on £14k. There highest earner is Scott Brown on £18k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 How do to know that? I'm genuinely intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 14 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2013 How do to know that? I'm genuinely intrigued. I've been chatting to a fair amount of 'itk' Celtic fans this week. They told me Wanyama is on £30k a week at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 I've been chatting to a fair amount of 'itk' Celtic fans this week. They told me Wanyama is on £30k a week at Saints. A 1st team Premier League player that cost £12.5m to be on only £30k p/w would be unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 14 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2013 A 1st team Premier League player that cost £12.5m to be on only £30k p/w would be unusual. Not if that's his basic. Still a big rise from £5k, and doesn't include any possible bonuses etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentry Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 IMO Billy's too good for them and is smart enough to not go there. Funny, Billy Sharp would be silly to not go to a Champions league team and a team most likely to win their league! They were last 16 in the champions league last year. Bigger than Saints. Only reason we can lure their players is because we are in the EPL, if they were they would be massive! (HAND IN FACE GUY THAT YOU LOVE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 If NC is half as canny as I think he is he should step in quick and use Billy Sharp as a tempter to Celtic in bringing Gary Hooper to St Marys. Hooper is on the verge of going to QPR they say for £4million which for a striker of his ability is crazy. I am sure if we offered them say 3.5 + BS they would jump at it. I also think Gary would prefer to play with us in the PL rather than the championship, he is after being seen in England to promote his dream of a place in next years world cup. IMO Hooper would be a great signing for Saints he is a out and out goal scorer who would be a massive addittion to our squad especially with VW now here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 If NC is half as canny as I think he is he should step in quick and use Billy Sharp as a tempter to Celtic in bringing Gary Hooper to St Marys. Hooper is on the verge of going to QPR they say for £4million which for a striker of his ability is crazy. I am sure if we offered them say 3.5 + BS they would jump at it. I also think Gary would prefer to play with us in the PL rather than the championship, he is after being seen in England to promote his dream of a place in next years world cup. IMO Hooper would be a great signing for Saints he is a out and out goal scorer who would be a massive addittion to our squad especially with VW now here. Saints are being linked with strikers for around £20m in a bracket (or two or three) up from Hooper. There is a reason newly promoted Hull and newly relegated QPR want him, he isn't at the level Saints want any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Celtic would be a great move for Sharp. He will never be a Prem player, but a couple of years up there would be fun. He would score loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Saints are being linked with strikers for around £20m in a bracket (or two or three) up from Hooper. There is a reason newly promoted Hull and newly relegated QPR want him, he isn't at the level Saints want any more. Sorry MLG I think you are totally wrong in dismissing Hooper because he is not a £20 mill player , What he is is a proven goalscorrer / poacher the likes of which Saints dont have in the squad , I am not saying buy him instead of a £20 mill man , I am saying we should buy him because he WILL score goals. He has scored goals ,lots of them where ever he has played, He is just a natural goal scorrer. Even if we used him from the bench when we were needing a goal he would be worth us signing for the fee's being discussed. If you get the chance have a look at this years Scottish cup final at the first 2 goals that Hooper scored and tell me who in the saints present squad would be capable of scoring goals like them , SRL ?, Maybe, But nobody else IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Sorry MLG I think you are totally wrong in dismissing Hooper because he is not a £20 mill player , What he is is a proven goalscorrer / poacher the likes of which Saints dont have in the squad , I am not saying buy him instead of a £20 mill man , I am saying we should buy him because he WILL score goals. He has scored goals ,lots of them where ever he has played, He is just a natural goal scorrer. Even if we used him from the bench when we were needing a goal he would be worth us signing for the fee's being discussed. If you get the chance have a look at this years Scottish cup final at the first 2 goals that Hooper scored and tell me who in the saints present squad would be capable of scoring goals like them , SRL ?, Maybe, But nobody else IMO We aren't looking for the type of player Hooper is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 We aren't looking for the type of player Hooper is. I thought we were looking for someone to score us goals , A area we failed on towards the end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 I thought we were looking for someone to score us goals , A area we failed on towards the end of last season. There are lots of different types of striker who score goals. Open your eyes a bit, look at the strikers we clearly want, what type of player they are, what system they play in, how we play etc and then you will work out why we don't want Hooper. Clue: we want someone who plays up front on their own, has a physical presence and can create chances for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Saints are being linked with strikers for around £20m in a bracket (or two or three) up from Hooper. There is a reason newly promoted Hull and newly relegated QPR want him, he isn't at the level Saints want any more. Sorry MLG I think you are totally wrong in dismissing Hooper because he is not a £20 mill player , What he is is a proven goalscorrer / poacher the likes of which Saints dont have in the squad , I am not saying buy him instead of a £20 mill man , I am saying we should buy him because he WILL score goals. He has scored goals ,lots of them where ever he has played, He is just a natural goal scorrer. Even if we used him from the bench when we were needing a goal he would be worth us signing for the fee's being discussed. If you get the chance have a look at this years Scottish cup final at the first 2 goals that Hooper scored and tell me who in the saints present squad would be capable of scoring goals like them , SRL ?, Maybe, But nobody else IMO I normally agree with MLG, and while I do agree we're looking for the next class of striker up, I'd be more than content with Hooper being our only striker signing this window. I'd rather pay the bigger money for a winger/attacking midfielder and smaller amounts for a striker than the other way around. Any goalscorer, which Hooper clearly is, would be a welcome addition and at the prices being bandied around, anywhere up to £6 million, would be a reasonably good punt on Hooper. You think I may jest but for that reason also I would take a punt on Bent. Even at his age he's a proven goalscorer, and if he was available at a reasonable transfer fee and wage (although I'm not sure whether his wage would put teams off) I think he'd be worth a punt too. Don't get me wrong, I don't think we'll go for either, and as MLG says we'll sign a striker that will make us go "wow", just that I would be perfectly happy if we brought either of these two in instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 14 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Hooper is no improvement on what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Chris Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 He wouldn't get paid much (relatively). Wanyama was on £5k a week. Hooper is on £14k. There highest earner is Scott Brown on £18k. Brown & Forster are on £25,000. Hooper is on £18,000 and was offered £25,000 which he rejected. Believe Wanyama was on around £12,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Hooper is no improvement on what we have. He's worth 10 Jayrods. Let's leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 No I won't leave it at that, Hooper is a goal snatcher (like Owen) what we now like is players of various talents who can fit differing roles, as the team needs, Hooper is not that sort of team player and neither was Owen, JRod is one in the making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Think Hooper would be a good option for us if we didn't get this big marquee striker that Cortese is after. Rickie, Jay and Hooper would be more than adequate for this season imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 14 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2013 He's worth 10 Jayrods. Let's leave it at that. No chance. Hooper is another Sharp. Jay Rod so much more of a footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Funny really, this rumour. If it's true, Celtic will sign somebody we consider not good enough, while at the same time saying we're not good enough or big enough to sign Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Would be a great move for Billy IMO. Not least because I've always thought he'd score the same amount of goals in the SPL that Hooper has, so I'd be very interested to see if I was right or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Funny really, this rumour. If it's true, Celtic will sign somebody we consider not good enough, while at the same time saying we're not good enough or big enough to sign Wanyama. They were saying that Wanyama was too for for Celtic and us, to be fair. Most were expecting him to go to a top club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 They were saying that Wanyama was too for for Celtic and us, to be fair. Most were expecting him to go to a top club. He did, it just ain't the future yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 They were saying that Wanyama was too for for Celtic and us, to be fair. Most were expecting him to go to a top club. I can only speak from recent memory. After watching the two Barcelona games and the two Juventus games, the guy is good but nowhere near as good as their fans make him out to be. Well above average CM, but not "great". Yes he would of probably attracted interest from medium-big clubs (say Spurs) but no more than that. He's solid, good for us as probably an upgrade (though only a slight one) on Cork. He might be in the future, but to say he is world-class right now is absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticman Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 He wouldn't get paid much (relatively). Wanyama was on £5k a week. Hooper is on £14k. There highest earner is Scott Brown on £18k. Brown is in 25k a week along with Ledley. I don't think Sharp is good enough to replace Hooper. I would rather we paid the money for Hosiner who is a better striker than both. I don't doubt he would be good enough for the league but do you guys believe he would cut it in the Champions League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Brown is in 25k a week along with Ledley. I don't think Sharp is good enough to replace Hooper. I would rather we paid the money for Hosiner who is a better striker than both. I don't doubt he would be good enough for the league but do you guys believe he would cut it in the Champions League? No he isn't good enough for the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 July, 2013 Share Posted 15 July, 2013 I confirmed on the HCDAJFU thread that Lennon was interested in Sharp. Looks like the Sun have caught up........ http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/5013571/Sharp-as-a-tic.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 The club must be proud that one of its rejects could finish up at that massive club north of the border Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 I confirmed on the HCDAJFU thread that Lennon was interested in Sharp. Looks like the Sun have caught up........ http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/5013571/Sharp-as-a-tic.html The about Wanyama lower down is a bit worrying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 16 July, 2013 Share Posted 16 July, 2013 Sorry MLG I think you are totally wrong in dismissing Hooper because he is not a £20 mill player , What he is is a proven goalscorrer / poacher the likes of which Saints dont have in the squad , I am not saying buy him instead of a £20 mill man , I am saying we should buy him because he WILL score goals. He has scored goals ,lots of them where ever he has played, He is just a natural goal scorrer. Even if we used him from the bench when we were needing a goal he would be worth us signing for the fee's being discussed. If you get the chance have a look at this years Scottish cup final at the first 2 goals that Hooper scored and tell me who in the saints present squad would be capable of scoring goals like them , SRL ?, Maybe, But nobody else IMO I am sorry but I really dont think he would score enough for what we need. Nicky Maynard banged them in for fun at the same level; so did Sharp; so have umpteen other players from Scotland and from our Championship. Clubs don't always get in right but they do watch players over and over again and make judgements about their potential to do it in the Prem. It simply is not coincidence that all the Prem clubs have watched Hooper carefully and only newly promoted Hull and Norwich (allegedly) have shown any interest. He might well go to QPR or Norwich but he won't pull up any trees. If he is sensible he will remain a very big fish in a pond whose size causes some controversy on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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