Master Bates Posted 28 July, 2021 Posted 28 July, 2021 On 24/07/2021 at 10:56, SuperSAINT said: A bit gutted but hey if he wasn't good enough. Had a bit of a dodgy start with Saints outside of football but luckily sorted himself out. Good luck to him.
SuperSAINT Posted 3 August, 2021 Posted 3 August, 2021 21 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Good move for him! He's starting for them tonight. Interesting to see who plays at left-back for the B-Team now -- Unless anyone is switching positions (or we have trialists there) it leaves us with Carson / J-Rod v2.0 or Joshua Lett as left-backs.
egg Posted 3 August, 2021 Posted 3 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Good move for him! He's starting for them tonight. Interesting to see who plays at left-back for the B-Team now -- Unless anyone is switching positions (or we have trialists there) it leaves us with Carson / J-Rod v2.0 or Joshua Lett as left-backs. Slightly surprised by that, but he's not first team ready (or material) but regular games at a higher level than u23's won't do him any harm. The u23 side is looking very weak this season, and if we plunder the u18's again they'll struggle as well. Will be interesting.
Chewy Posted 3 August, 2021 Posted 3 August, 2021 Sam McQueen might be a u23 left back option I guess?
rooney Posted 4 August, 2021 Posted 4 August, 2021 Will Ferry looks to have very good potential in the under 23 snips I have seen him in.
SuperSAINT Posted 20 August, 2021 Posted 20 August, 2021 https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2021-08-20/loan-agreement-matt-hall-melksham-town-southampton-fc
Dr Who? Posted 22 August, 2021 Posted 22 August, 2021 So looks like Long will just leave at the end of the season.
VectisSaint Posted 25 August, 2021 Posted 25 August, 2021 There is no way Saints were going to let contracts for all 3 keepers expire in 2022 (includes Lewis), you can't go into a situation of potentially having no pro keepers on your books. The strategy (in my view) was to get rid of Forster this window (more expensive of the two and in Ralph's opinion the more expendable), but Forster decided (quite reasonably) that he was better off financially seeing out his ridiculous contract than going somewhere else, no-one being apparently willing to take on his huge wage requirements for this year, when they could get him for nowt next summer. So Saints are stuck with FF, and without him off the wage bill cannot bring in the replacement/new keeper that they had planned. I still hold out a (very) feint hope that Forster might go this window but whether we have replacement locked in to come at very short notice is the problem (probably not). If anyone is to blame for this situation with the GKs its Les and FF, for stupid contract extension and FF deciding (quite justifiably) that he is better off sitting on the bench (and getting run outs in the Cups like tonight). Whatever anyone thinks of McCarthy, Forster is not the answer. 2
SFC Forever Posted 26 August, 2021 Posted 26 August, 2021 surely if he had been wanted we could have done a deal and paid a portion of his wages.
egg Posted 26 August, 2021 Posted 26 August, 2021 On 25/08/2021 at 19:45, VectisSaint said: There is no way Saints were going to let contracts for all 3 keepers expire in 2022 (includes Lewis), you can't go into a situation of potentially having no pro keepers on your books. The strategy (in my view) was to get rid of Forster this window (more expensive of the two and in Ralph's opinion the more expendable), but Forster decided (quite reasonably) that he was better off financially seeing out his ridiculous contract than going somewhere else, no-one being apparently willing to take on his huge wage requirements for this year, when they could get him for nowt next summer. So Saints are stuck with FF, and without him off the wage bill cannot bring in the replacement/new keeper that they had planned. I still hold out a (very) feint hope that Forster might go this window but whether we have replacement locked in to come at very short notice is the problem (probably not). If anyone is to blame for this situation with the GKs its Les and FF, for stupid contract extension and FF deciding (quite justifiably) that he is better off sitting on the bench (and getting run outs in the Cups like tonight). Whatever anyone thinks of McCarthy, Forster is not the answer. The only part of that I disagree with is that any of this is FF fault. Nobody is to blame for saying yes to a lucrative contract, and nobody in their right mind would walk away from it. He's a bright lad, well advised, and understandably he'll happily take what we agreed to pay him. Now the idiots that have him that deal, that's a other thing!
VectisSaint Posted 27 August, 2021 Posted 27 August, 2021 11 hours ago, egg said: The only part of that I disagree with is that any of this is FF fault. Nobody is to blame for saying yes to a lucrative contract, and nobody in their right mind would walk away from it. He's a bright lad, well advised, and understandably he'll happily take what we agreed to pay him. Now the idiots that have him that deal, that's a other thing! I did say 'if' anyone is to blame, and that it was quite reasonable for him to decide to stay. Can't really blame him at all, I'm sure I would have done the same, but there's no doubt he is largely the cause of the issue, maybe that's a better description rather than fault.
SuperSAINT Posted 27 August, 2021 Posted 27 August, 2021 https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2021-08-27/loan-agreement-benni-smales-braithwaite-gloucester-city-southampton-fc
Simon3737 Posted 30 August, 2021 Posted 30 August, 2021 Is the Alex McCarthy contract extension official yet?
Matthew Le God Posted 30 August, 2021 Posted 30 August, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Simon3737 said: Is the Alex McCarthy contract extension official yet? Nope, club have not announced it. Edited 30 August, 2021 by Matthew Le God 1
SaintBobby Posted 30 August, 2021 Posted 30 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Nope, club have not announced it. According to the guy from the Atheltic, it is official. As in the club have formally furnished the information to journalists (same with the new 4 year contract for Stephens). They just haven't announced it on the club's official platforms/website.
Charlie Wayman Posted 30 August, 2021 Posted 30 August, 2021 Extending either of those contracts (McCarthy, Stephens) would be an act of sheer lunacy. Run down their contracts and let them leave if they wish. Believe me they will be begging for a new contact once they realise no other team in the PL will take a second glance at them. It is time to finish clearing out the closet and dumping the rubbish. 2
Matthew Le God Posted 30 August, 2021 Posted 30 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, SaintBobby said: According to the guy from the Atheltic, it is official. As in the club have formally furnished the information to journalists (same with the new 4 year contract for Stephens). They just haven't announced it on the club's official platforms/website. I'd class 'official' as being when the club announce it publicly. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but why delay an announcement?
John B Posted 30 August, 2021 Posted 30 August, 2021 On 27/08/2021 at 09:02, VectisSaint said: I did say 'if' anyone is to blame, and that it was quite reasonable for him to decide to stay. Can't really blame him at all, I'm sure I would have done the same, but there's no doubt he is largely the cause of the issue, maybe that's a better description rather than fault. What issue ? He is just fullfilling his contract is he not he had a horrible injury and some mental health issues and I believe his contract was amended but when he signed his contract he was a decent keeper was he not 1
egg Posted 30 August, 2021 Posted 30 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I'd class 'official' as being when the club announce it publicly. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but why delay an announcement? Yep, seems odd to delay it. It went through my mind that they may want to tie it up with another announcement but its hard to see what.
SaintBobby Posted 30 August, 2021 Posted 30 August, 2021 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: I'd class 'official' as being when the club announce it publicly. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but why delay an announcement? I'd class it as official as soon as they formally and unambiguously tell someone outside of the club. I'm putting the delay down to incompetence, most likley. The administrative side of the club seems a bit chaotic at the moment.
bangkoksaint Posted 30 August, 2021 Posted 30 August, 2021 On 26/08/2021 at 21:53, egg said: The only part of that I disagree with is that any of this is FF fault. Nobody is to blame for saying yes to a lucrative contract, and nobody in their right mind would walk away from it. He's a bright lad, well advised, and understandably he'll happily take what we agreed to pay him. Now the idiots that have him that deal, that's a other thing! Exactly this……..FF’s father is a QC and a former/current Judge. All footballers are advised I’m sure but in Fraser’s case he’s probably bright enough to realise a number of things himself.
gordonToo Posted 2 September, 2021 Posted 2 September, 2021 FF was offered a new contract but turned it down. My inference from that is that FF was preferred over AM but as he is obviously leaving at the end of the season and AM has signed a new contract, AM will be #1 this season and #2 thereafter when a replacement for FF is signed.
SuperSAINT Posted 10 September, 2021 Posted 10 September, 2021 Is there a full list for @Over land and sea to work his magic?
Over land and sea Posted 10 September, 2021 Author Posted 10 September, 2021 (edited) Here is the full list. https://www.premierleague.com/news/2247219 With one exception, there are no surprises. We have listed 24 over 21s and 49 under 21s. The only contracted player omitted is Dan NLundulu who is the only over 21 out on loan. The surprise (to me anyway) is the listing of someone called Adli Hatim Othman Husain Elkhidir Mohamed. I have never heard of him! A "Home-Grown Player" means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21). Under-21 players are eligible over and above the limit of 25 players per squad. For the 2021/22 campaign Under-21 players will have been born on or after 1 January 2000. 25 Squad players First name Surname Mohamed Salisu Abdul Karim Che Sac Everton Fred Adams HGP Adam James Armstrong HGP Stuart Armstrong Jan Bednarek Ibrahima Diallo Moussa Djenepo Mohamed El Younossi Lyanco Evangelista Silveira Neves Vojnovic Fraser Gerard Forster HGP Oliver Lancashire HGP Harry Charles John Lewis HGP Shane Patrick Long HGP Alex Simon McCarthy HGP Samuel James McQueen HGP Romain Paul Jean Michel Perraud Nathan Daniel Jerome Redmond HGP Jack Stephens HGP Nathan Tella HGP Yan Valery HGP Oriol Romeu Vidal Theo James Walcott HGP Kyle Leonardus Walker-Peters HGP James Michael Edward Ward-Prowse HGP U21 players (Contract and Scholars) First names Surname Goran Gogo Babic HGP Samuel James Bailey HGP Dominic Ballard HGP Edward James Beach Samuel Lawrence Alexander Bellis HGP Cameron Roger Bragg HGP Armando Broja HGP Ethan Burnett HGP Jack Thomas Bycroft HGP Matthew Carson Kgaogelo Chauke HGP Ryan Jorge Chavez-Munoz HGP Teddy Jay Davey HGP Sonnie Davis HGP Kamari Olivier Doyle Milan Diamond Lazane Edwards HGP William Ferry HGP Ryan James Finnigan HGP Matthew Hall HGP Jeremiah James Hewlett Tommy Lee Higgs HGP Joshua Matthew Lett HGP Gustav Erik Lillienberg Valentino Livramento HGP Ramello Dejorn Mitchell HGP Adli Hatim Othman Husain Elkhidir Mohamed Kazeem Aderemi J. Olaigbe Oludare Samuel Araba Olufunwa HGP Zuriel Otseh-Taiwo Leon Pambou Makaya Lewis James Payne HGP Luke Edward Andrew Pearce HGP Kayne Ramsay HGP Jeremi Alexander Rodriguez Borja Fedel Ross-Lang HGP Dynel Brown Kemgo Simeu HGP Benjamin Smales Braithwaite HGP Thierry Small HGP William Anthony Patrick Smallbone HGP Jayden Pharell Llamar Mills Smith HGP Joshua David Squires HGP Wiliam Tizzard HGP Kaya Sean Tshaka HGP Jack Turner HGP Jake Vokins HGP Caleb Cassius Watts HGP Harvey James Woods HGP Oliver Wright HGP Rylee Wright Edited 10 September, 2021 by Over land and sea 3
SuperSAINT Posted 12 September, 2021 Posted 12 September, 2021 On 10/09/2021 at 20:14, Over land and sea said: The surprise (to me anyway) is the listing of someone called Adli Hatim Othman Husain Elkhidir Mohamed. I have never heard of him! Young keeper, apparently.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 September, 2021 Posted 12 September, 2021 2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Young keeper, apparently. Where did you see that? Someone has edited the Saints Wikipedia page to say he is a goalkeeper from the UAE, but I can't find anything about him from any reliable source. Makes adding him on FM22 difficult! 😁
SuperSAINT Posted 13 September, 2021 Posted 13 September, 2021 20 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Where did you see that? Someone has edited the Saints Wikipedia page to say he is a goalkeeper from the UAE, but I can't find anything about him from any reliable source. Makes adding him on FM22 difficult! 😁 Didn’t know about the Wiki link, but believe it’s accurate.
SuperSAINT Posted 22 September, 2021 Posted 22 September, 2021 On 12/09/2021 at 11:54, Matthew Le God said: Where did you see that? Someone has edited the Saints Wikipedia page to say he is a goalkeeper from the UAE, but I can't find anything about him from any reliable source. Makes adding him on FM22 difficult! 😁 Was on the bench on Saturday. Definitely a keeper.
SuperSAINT Posted 8 October, 2021 Posted 8 October, 2021 https://axminster.nub.news/n/talented-axminster-youngster-offered-professional-contract-with-southampton-fc 1
DT Posted 13 October, 2021 Posted 13 October, 2021 Southampton will ‘soon’ announce a number of newly signed contracts at the club, with the hope being that goalkeeper Alex McCarthy will be one of them #saintsfc [hampshire live] oh god oh god
Matthew Le God Posted 18 October, 2021 Posted 18 October, 2021 (edited) Edited 18 October, 2021 by Matthew Le God
SuperSAINT Posted 25 October, 2021 Posted 25 October, 2021 (edited) * Wrong thread Edited 26 October, 2021 by SuperSAINT
VectisSaint Posted 3 November, 2021 Posted 3 November, 2021 36 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: That's a weird picture. What is he doing?
SuperSAINT Posted 19 November, 2021 Posted 19 November, 2021 Good news. Has had a really good season and can seemingly play all over the pitch. 2
davefizzy14 Posted 19 November, 2021 Posted 19 November, 2021 5 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Good news. Has had a really good season and can seemingly play all over the pitch. Great news. He has had a really strong start to the season with the B team. Scoring and assisting quite a few already. He is versatile too and I'm sure Ralph has been keeping a close eye on his progress 1
Saint Garrett Posted 23 November, 2021 Posted 23 November, 2021 On 19/11/2021 at 17:11, davefizzy14 said: Great news. He has had a really strong start to the season with the B team. Scoring and assisting quite a few already. He is versatile too and I'm sure Ralph has been keeping a close eye on his progress Yup great stuff. It's abiout a 10 year cycle, so this set of kids coming through, would have been brought into the club just as we were back in the premier league. Will expect a lot more talents over the next few years, than the last 10.
Chez Posted 5 December, 2021 Posted 5 December, 2021 On 23/11/2021 at 10:06, Saint Garrett said: Yup great stuff. It's abiout a 10 year cycle, so this set of kids coming through, would have been brought into the club just as we were back in the premier league. Will expect a lot more talents over the next few years, than the last 10. unless Chelsea's youth system ramp up over that period hasn't completely swept up all the talent. 1
SuperSAINT Posted 5 December, 2021 Posted 5 December, 2021 Not sure the 10 year cycle thing is necessarily true. The academy doesn’t just recruit 8 year olds.
Saint_clark Posted 6 December, 2021 Posted 6 December, 2021 On 03/11/2021 at 20:18, VectisSaint said: That's a weird picture. What is he doing? Dragging the ball back with his right foot to change direction, I assume. Looks to me like we might be letting Stephens go on a free 🤞
SuperSAINT Posted 3 January, 2022 Posted 3 January, 2022 On 13/07/2013 at 08:58, Over land and sea said: 2022 Alex McCarthy Fraser Forster Harry Lewis* Oliver Wright* Matthew Hall* Zuriel Otseh-Taiwan* Oludare Olufunwa Jack Stephens Will Tizzard* Ethan Burnett* Jack Turner* Kgaogelo Chauke Shane Long Benni Smales-Braithwaite Ramello Mitchell Jayden Smith* Sam Bellis Kazeem Olaigbe Armando Broja (end of loan) Scholars not on a professional contract Gustav Lillienberg Eddie Beach Matthew Carson Kaya Tshaka Harvey Woods Sam Bailey Teddy Davey That’s a big chunk of academy players to make decisions on still. We’re now at the stage where we will see players go on trial at lower league clubs to see who we might not be keeping. PS - 7 goal-keepers (!)
vin Posted 3 January, 2022 Posted 3 January, 2022 36 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: That’s a big chunk of academy players to make decisions on still. We’re now at the stage where we will see players go on trial at lower league clubs to see who we might not be keeping. PS - 7 goal-keepers (!) Teddy Davey has been on loan at Poole Town for the past month (not sure if he’s still there).
Chez Posted 3 January, 2022 Posted 3 January, 2022 On 06/12/2021 at 09:19, Saint_clark said: Dragging the ball back with his right foot to change direction, I assume. Looks to me like we might be letting Stephens go on a free 🤞 so Stephens (and McCarthy) haven't signed new contracts as reported earlier in the year by The Athletic then? What's going on there. Very strange.
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