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saints-cris

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I work at CTFC. So I saw Jake play alot this year.

He came in and looked ok but to me, he seemed short of match fitness, understandably. He always got well stuck in and put himself about a lot. Then he got injured for a while and the same cycle repeated. 

To me, he lacks the pace or attacking threat to play higher than L1/L2 right now. No goals, a couple of assists, played on the left of a midfield 4 mostly. He needs to have a regular season in L2 and I suspect that's where he'll end up. Well liked at CTFC from what I could gather though.

 

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Over land and sea

Over land and sea

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Thanks @SuperSAINT for posting the Twitter and Instagram posts.  The OS gave up on providing information on departures and many of the contract extensions some time time ago so until the PL publishes the definitive lists (by second Saturday in June) these now look to be the best sources of information.

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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2 hours ago, Over land and sea said:

Thanks @SuperSAINT for posting the Twitter and Instagram posts.  The OS gave up on providing information on departures and many of the contract extensions some time time ago so until the PL publishes the definitive lists (by second Saturday in June) these now look to be the best sources of information.

No problem.  If I see anything else, I’ll post it on here to keep your list updated.  Imagine there’s still a fair few to leave yet.

It is strange how hush-hush we keep it.  

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nta786

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4 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

No problem.  If I see anything else, I’ll post it on here to keep your list updated.  Imagine there’s still a fair few to leave yet.

It is strange how hush-hush we keep it.  

Thanks both for the updates - don't want to derail the thread but of course a lot is now discussed about mental health of footballers who are released its perhaps best we never release an article basically saying "the following 18-20 year olds were not good enough..."

 

SuperSAINT

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4 minutes ago, nta786 said:

Thanks both for the updates - don't want to derail the thread but of course a lot is now discussed about mental health of footballers who are released its perhaps best we never release an article basically saying "the following 18-20 year olds were not good enough..."

 

This is very true.  The Jeremy Wisten case bought this to light recently. 

The James Morris Instagram post struck a chord with me - he’s supported the club all this time and has come up through the ranks for more than half of his life.  It must be brutal to leave.

You could look at it another way - the club announcing it and wishing them good luck doesn’t change the fact that we’ve done it, though.

Saint Keef

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On 27/05/2021 at 09:03, Saint Garrett said:

Shame Long has returned to Saints after his loan spell at Bournemouth. 

That'll be Danny Ings' replacement sorted then.

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Ex Lion Tamer

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On 29/05/2021 at 21:07, SFC Forever said:

I still can't get why he was given a new contract. He was poor before and even worse after.

At that point he had started 12 of the last 15 games and had been credited with bringing the best out of Ings

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SuperSAINT

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19 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Supposed to be quite decent - think he was part of some England age group squads (although the article says he's represented Serbia now).

I wouldn’t bet against him getting into the B team next season.  We were bodging fullbacks into central midfield at times.

Over land and sea

Over land and sea

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Yes, good luck to all the departing players - and those being offered new deals.

The PL have now published a full list of retained players here  https://www.premierleague.com/news/2163099

Contracts
Abdul Karim, Mohamed Salisu 
Adams, Che Sac Everton Fred 
Armstrong, Stuart 
Bednarek, Jan 
Bellis, Samuel Lawrence Alexander 
Bycroft, Jack Thomas 
Chauke, Kgaogelo 
Diallo, Ibrahima 
Djenepo, Moussa 
Edwards, Milan Diamond Lazane 
El Younossi, Mohamed 
Ferry, William 
Finnigan, Ryan James 
Forster, Fraser Gerard 
Gunn, Angus Fraser James 
Hoedt, Wesley 
Ings, Daniel William John 
Jankewitz, Alexandre Tounde Dimitri 
Lemina, Mario Rene Junior 
Lewis, Harry Charles John 
Long, Shane Patrick 
McCarthy, Alex Simon 
McQueen, Samuel James (Offer Contract)
Mitchell, Ramello Dejorn 
Nlundulu, Dan 
Obafemi, Michael Oluwadurotimi 
Olaigbe, Kazeem Aderemi J. 
Olufunwa, Oludare Samuel Araba 
Pambou, Makaya Leon 
Ramsay, Kayne 
Redmond, Nathan Daniel Jerome 
Rodriguez, Borja Jeremi Alexander 
Ross-Lang, Fedel 
Slattery, Callum 
Smales, Braithwaite Benjamin 
Smallbone, William Anthony Patrick 
Stephens, Jack 
Tchaptchet, Wandja Allan (Offer Contract)
Tella, Nathan 
Valery, Yan 
Vestergaard, Jannik 
Vidal, Oriol Romeu 
Vokins, Jake 
Walker-Peters, Kyle Leonardus 
Ward-Prowse, James Michael Edward 
Watts, Caleb Cassius 

Scholars 
Babic, Goran Gogo 
Bailey, Samuel James (Extended)
Beach, Edward James 
Burnett, Ethan Darren (Offer Contract)
Carson, Matthew 
Davey, Teddy Jay (Extended)
Hall, Matthew Gary (Offer Contract)
Lillienberg, Gustav Erik 
Otseh-Taiwo, Zuriel Jonathan (Offer Contract)
Payne, Lewis James 
Pearce, Luke Edward Andrew 
Smith, Jayden Pharell Llamar Mills (Offer Contract)
Tizzard, William James (Offer Contract)
Tshaka, Kaya Sean 
Turner, Jack Henry (Offer Contract)
Woods, Harvey James 
Wright, Oliver Lennon George (Offer Contract)

 

And a full list of released players here:

https://www.premierleague.com/news/2163104

Agbontohoma, David Osaretim
Bertrand, Ryan
Defise, Lucas Nsiona K
Hesketh, Jake Alexander
Kpohomouh, Pascal
Latham, Kingsley Finn
Ledwidge, Kameron Malcolm
Morris, James William
O'Connor, Thomas James
Scott, Tommy John
Sims, Joshua Samuel

 

I've updated the opening post.

S-Clarke

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1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Nice move by the club, probably the least we can do really.

Hopefully he can gain a career at a lower level at some point, but it is looking tough tbh.

Over land and sea

Over land and sea

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20 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Tom Leach saying 1 year option was triggered, so I guess go with that.

Yes,  I agree - I'll assume 2022.  We were never told what happened when his contract expired in June 2020 so it looks like that was a 1 year extension.

SuperSAINT

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10 minutes ago, Over land and sea said:

Yes,  I agree - I'll assume 2022.  We were never told what happened when his contract expired in June 2020 so it looks like that was a 1 year extension.

Stealth contract extensions are as tricksy as stealth releases. What happened to Seamas Keogh?!

Dusic

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37 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Tom Leach saying 1 year option was triggered, so I guess go with that.

Sounds like he will (finally) go out on loan - I reckon to L2 or National League.

With Scott and Latham (both odd signings in the first place) released, surely there will be at least one Academy GK signed...an area we always seem weak.

SuperSAINT

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3 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Sounds like he will (finally) go out on loan - I reckon to L2 or National League.

With Scott and Latham (both odd signings in the first place) released, surely there will be at least one Academy GK signed...an area we always seem weak.

We always seems to have a goalkeeping tombola going on.

We still have Bycroft / Wright / Hall / Lillienberg / Beach all in the academy. 

Over land and sea

Over land and sea

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7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Stealth contract extensions are as tricksy as stealth releases. What happened to Seamas Keogh?!

And Marcus Rus/Enzo Robise - all three disappeared without any mention on the OS.  Robise is still listed in the B team but the others were removed without explanation.

Baird of the land

Baird of the land

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On 04/06/2021 at 21:48, Dusic said:

Sounds like he will (finally) go out on loan - I reckon to L2 or National League.

With Scott and Latham (both odd signings in the first place) released, surely there will be at least one Academy GK signed...an area we always seem weak.

I'd assume Lewis will fill that bizarre position that seems to have grown up in the premier league(stuart taylor etc) of the 3rd choice match day warm up keeper

VectisSaint

VectisSaint

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On 04/06/2021 at 21:48, Dusic said:

Sounds like he will (finally) go out on loan - I reckon to L2 or National League.

With Scott and Latham (both odd signings in the first place) released, surely there will be at least one Academy GK signed...an area we always seem weak.

He's been on loan before to Dundee Utd in the Scot Championship. 

david in sweden

david in sweden

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On 06/06/2021 at 20:10, VectisSaint said:

He's been on loan before to Dundee Utd in the Scot Championship. 

Lewis signed very young from ..Shrewsbury (?) and has had a loan out chance in Scotland, but somehow is still here.

Goalkeeping is a strange position to progress in - especially for a young man.  Whilst outfield players can get their  

debut games as teenagers, many keepers still haven't made their mark when well into their twenties. 

Biggest problem is understudying an established international who has the first team spot and can play well into their 30's. 

(Don't know who the youngest "regular " Prem. keeper is ?....but there can't be so many). 

 

Those "Saints " who came young  but later fell by the wayside include players like  Bialkowski and Gazzaniga who 

had a few chances, but often failed to impress when called upon in an emergency when it mattered most. 

Even now many cannot agree on whether McCarthy or Forster should our best first choice custodian, and so Lewis'

future is still in limbo.  He may well get more B team chances, but our best young keeper of late is probably Jack Bycroft.

 

HarvSFC

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Meslier at Leeds (21), Sanchez at Brighton (23) and Henderson (24) are the three notable young goalkeepers off the top of my head. Think most others are 27+.

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daldridge7

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1 hour ago, Jeremy said:

Sorry, but is that list of contracts definite and Danny and Vest etc staying?

Danny and Vest contracts are up next summer so this wouldn't affect them

Antrimsaint

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On 08/06/2021 at 16:18, david in sweden said:

Lewis signed very young from ..Shrewsbury (?) and has had a loan out chance in Scotland, but somehow is still here.

Goalkeeping is a strange position to progress in - especially for a young man.  Whilst outfield players can get their  

debut games as teenagers, many keepers still haven't made their mark when well into their twenties. 

Biggest problem is understudying an established international who has the first team spot and can play well into their 30's. 

(Don't know who the youngest "regular " Prem. keeper is ?....but there can't be so many). 

 

Those "Saints " who came young  but later fell by the wayside include players like  Bialkowski and Gazzaniga who 

had a few chances, but often failed to impress when called upon in an emergency when it mattered most. 

Even now many cannot agree on whether McCarthy or Forster should our best first choice custodian, and so Lewis'

future is still in limbo.  He may well get more B team chances, but our best young keeper of late is probably Jack Bycroft.

 

When it comes to keepers it seems no point of trying to bring them through the ranks. Keepers rarely come good till their in the latter years. 
 

you don’t seem to get young keepers as a number 1 in our team so why persist? 
 

we buy ready made keepers. Genuine question?

egg

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2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

That's a strange move, a relegation fight in a poor league. Good luck to him nonetheless

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VectisSaint

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9 hours ago, egg said:

That's a strange move, a relegation fight in a poor league. Good luck to him nonetheless

Thought it was a good move actually, probably better than League One, at least some decent  opposition, looks like guaranteed games, away from the spotlight of the EFL and with a decent manager/coach. 

egg

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1 minute ago, VectisSaint said:

Thought it was a good move actually, probably better than League One, at least some decent  opposition, looks like guaranteed games, away from the spotlight of the EFL and with a decent manager/coach. 

It's a mixed league so I guess he'll have some games where he can get forward more, and others where he'll be tested defensively. He's shown promise and needs games somewhere. Either way, it has to be better than a season of b team games, bench warming and a couple of cup games. Hopefully he does well. 

SaintsLoyal

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7 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

Sam McQueen’s contract is currently until January according to Dan Sheldon.

This should be on the official website not this athletic pay nonsense.

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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On 13/07/2013 at 08:58, Over land and sea said:

Allan Tchaptchet - offered contract extension

Interesting we’ve not heard anything about this by now.  I reckon he’s leaving.  

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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9 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:
On 13/07/2013 at 08:58, Over land and sea said:

Allan Tchaptchet - offered contract extension

Interesting we’ve not heard anything about this by now.  I reckon he’s leaving

 

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