davefizzy14 Posted 20 May, 2021 Share Posted 20 May, 2021 I hope too that Jake has a good career at championship/league one level. Shame because of injuries here that he couldn't kick on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 I work at CTFC. So I saw Jake play alot this year. He came in and looked ok but to me, he seemed short of match fitness, understandably. He always got well stuck in and put himself about a lot. Then he got injured for a while and the same cycle repeated. To me, he lacks the pace or attacking threat to play higher than L1/L2 right now. No goals, a couple of assists, played on the left of a midfield 4 mostly. He needs to have a regular season in L2 and I suspect that's where he'll end up. Well liked at CTFC from what I could gather though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 On 20/05/2021 at 19:06, Matthew Le God said: He is leaving things late, he isn't young any more at 25 years old and has struggled to make an impression in League Two. Maybe he should try league 1 again he was player of the month for MK Dons https://citiblog.co.uk/2019/03/09/jake-hesketh-wins-player-of-the-month-award/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Maybe he should try league 1 again he was player of the month for MK Dons https://citiblog.co.uk/2019/03/09/jake-hesketh-wins-player-of-the-month-award/ That was in League Two, not League One and his career has gone backwards in the two following years. Edited 21 May, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 James Morris leaving us. Nice post from him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over land and sea Posted 25 May, 2021 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2021 Thanks @SuperSAINT for posting the Twitter and Instagram posts. The OS gave up on providing information on departures and many of the contract extensions some time time ago so until the PL publishes the definitive lists (by second Saturday in June) these now look to be the best sources of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Over land and sea said: Thanks @SuperSAINT for posting the Twitter and Instagram posts. The OS gave up on providing information on departures and many of the contract extensions some time time ago so until the PL publishes the definitive lists (by second Saturday in June) these now look to be the best sources of information. No problem. If I see anything else, I’ll post it on here to keep your list updated. Imagine there’s still a fair few to leave yet. It is strange how hush-hush we keep it. Edited 25 May, 2021 by SuperSAINT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 4 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: No problem. If I see anything else, I’ll post it on here to keep your list updated. Imagine there’s still a fair few to leave yet. It is strange how hush-hush we keep it. Thanks both for the updates - don't want to derail the thread but of course a lot is now discussed about mental health of footballers who are released its perhaps best we never release an article basically saying "the following 18-20 year olds were not good enough..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 4 minutes ago, nta786 said: Thanks both for the updates - don't want to derail the thread but of course a lot is now discussed about mental health of footballers who are released its perhaps best we never release an article basically saying "the following 18-20 year olds were not good enough..." This is very true. The Jeremy Wisten case bought this to light recently. The James Morris Instagram post struck a chord with me - he’s supported the club all this time and has come up through the ranks for more than half of his life. It must be brutal to leave. You could look at it another way - the club announcing it and wishing them good luck doesn’t change the fact that we’ve done it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 May, 2021 Share Posted 27 May, 2021 Shame Long has returned to Saints after his loan spell at Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 28 May, 2021 Share Posted 28 May, 2021 On 27/05/2021 at 09:03, Saint Garrett said: Shame Long has returned to Saints after his loan spell at Bournemouth. That'll be Danny Ings' replacement sorted then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 29 May, 2021 Share Posted 29 May, 2021 I still can't get why he was given a new contract. He was poor before and even worse after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 On 29/05/2021 at 21:07, SFC Forever said: I still can't get why he was given a new contract. He was poor before and even worse after. At that point he had started 12 of the last 15 games and had been credited with bringing the best out of Ings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 (edited) https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2021-06-01/professional-contract-announcement-goran-babic-southampton-academy Babic secures pro contract. Edited 1 June, 2021 by SuperSAINT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 56 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2021-06-01/professional-contract-announcement-goran-babic-southampton-academy Babic secures pro contract. Supposed to be quite decent - think he was part of some England age group squads (although the article says he's represented Serbia now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 19 minutes ago, qwertyell said: Supposed to be quite decent - think he was part of some England age group squads (although the article says he's represented Serbia now). I wouldn’t bet against him getting into the B team next season. We were bodging fullbacks into central midfield at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 June, 2021 Share Posted 3 June, 2021 Looks like Kameron Ledwidge is leaving us. Was part of the 2017/18 intake. Hope he finds himself a good club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 (edited) https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2021-06-04/southampton-football-club-2021-retained-list-released-players Released... Ryan Bertrand Jake Hesketh Josh Sims David Agbontohoma Lucas Defise Pascal Kpohomouh Kingsley Latham Kameron Ledwidge James Morris Thomas O'Connor Tommy Scott Plus, regarding Harry Lewis and Sam McQueen... Edited 4 June, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 Skates want Sims…. https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/portsmouth-plotting-move-for-out-of-contract-southampton-winger-josh-sims-3261603?fbclid=IwAR0dR4kGrmScGkbEIU4D-BIilCQp4FT15_hiCCSzhn-uaXWYEr8BcVpLt7o there sure will be some disparaging remarks about this possibility in the comments section. And some idiotic ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 don't see a problem with Pompey taking him on as he wasn't thought good enough for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 on a side note I wish all leavers good luck finding a contract elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over land and sea Posted 4 June, 2021 Author Share Posted 4 June, 2021 Yes, good luck to all the departing players - and those being offered new deals. The PL have now published a full list of retained players here https://www.premierleague.com/news/2163099 Contracts Abdul Karim, Mohamed Salisu Adams, Che Sac Everton Fred Armstrong, Stuart Bednarek, Jan Bellis, Samuel Lawrence Alexander Bycroft, Jack Thomas Chauke, Kgaogelo Diallo, Ibrahima Djenepo, Moussa Edwards, Milan Diamond Lazane El Younossi, Mohamed Ferry, William Finnigan, Ryan James Forster, Fraser Gerard Gunn, Angus Fraser James Hoedt, Wesley Ings, Daniel William John Jankewitz, Alexandre Tounde Dimitri Lemina, Mario Rene Junior Lewis, Harry Charles John Long, Shane Patrick McCarthy, Alex Simon McQueen, Samuel James (Offer Contract) Mitchell, Ramello Dejorn Nlundulu, Dan Obafemi, Michael Oluwadurotimi Olaigbe, Kazeem Aderemi J. Olufunwa, Oludare Samuel Araba Pambou, Makaya Leon Ramsay, Kayne Redmond, Nathan Daniel Jerome Rodriguez, Borja Jeremi Alexander Ross-Lang, Fedel Slattery, Callum Smales, Braithwaite Benjamin Smallbone, William Anthony Patrick Stephens, Jack Tchaptchet, Wandja Allan (Offer Contract) Tella, Nathan Valery, Yan Vestergaard, Jannik Vidal, Oriol Romeu Vokins, Jake Walker-Peters, Kyle Leonardus Ward-Prowse, James Michael Edward Watts, Caleb Cassius Scholars Babic, Goran Gogo Bailey, Samuel James (Extended) Beach, Edward James Burnett, Ethan Darren (Offer Contract) Carson, Matthew Davey, Teddy Jay (Extended) Hall, Matthew Gary (Offer Contract) Lillienberg, Gustav Erik Otseh-Taiwo, Zuriel Jonathan (Offer Contract) Payne, Lewis James Pearce, Luke Edward Andrew Smith, Jayden Pharell Llamar Mills (Offer Contract) Tizzard, William James (Offer Contract) Tshaka, Kaya Sean Turner, Jack Henry (Offer Contract) Woods, Harvey James Wright, Oliver Lennon George (Offer Contract) And a full list of released players here: https://www.premierleague.com/news/2163104 Agbontohoma, David Osaretim Bertrand, Ryan Defise, Lucas Nsiona K Hesketh, Jake Alexander Kpohomouh, Pascal Latham, Kingsley Finn Ledwidge, Kameron Malcolm Morris, James William O'Connor, Thomas James Scott, Tommy John Sims, Joshua Samuel I've updated the opening post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 Has Sam McQueen been offered a new deal then? Great to see from the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 14 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Has Sam McQueen been offered a new deal then? Great to see from the club 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 On 13/07/2013 at 08:58, Over land and sea said: Unknown Harry Lewis Tom Leach saying 1 year option was triggered, so I guess go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: Nice move by the club, probably the least we can do really. Hopefully he can gain a career at a lower level at some point, but it is looking tough tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over land and sea Posted 4 June, 2021 Author Share Posted 4 June, 2021 20 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Tom Leach saying 1 year option was triggered, so I guess go with that. Yes, I agree - I'll assume 2022. We were never told what happened when his contract expired in June 2020 so it looks like that was a 1 year extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 10 minutes ago, Over land and sea said: Yes, I agree - I'll assume 2022. We were never told what happened when his contract expired in June 2020 so it looks like that was a 1 year extension. Stealth contract extensions are as tricksy as stealth releases. What happened to Seamas Keogh?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 37 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Tom Leach saying 1 year option was triggered, so I guess go with that. Sounds like he will (finally) go out on loan - I reckon to L2 or National League. With Scott and Latham (both odd signings in the first place) released, surely there will be at least one Academy GK signed...an area we always seem weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2021 Share Posted 4 June, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dusic said: Sounds like he will (finally) go out on loan - I reckon to L2 or National League. With Scott and Latham (both odd signings in the first place) released, surely there will be at least one Academy GK signed...an area we always seem weak. We always seems to have a goalkeeping tombola going on. We still have Bycroft / Wright / Hall / Lillienberg / Beach all in the academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over land and sea Posted 4 June, 2021 Author Share Posted 4 June, 2021 7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Stealth contract extensions are as tricksy as stealth releases. What happened to Seamas Keogh?! And Marcus Rus/Enzo Robise - all three disappeared without any mention on the OS. Robise is still listed in the B team but the others were removed without explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 6 June, 2021 Share Posted 6 June, 2021 On 04/06/2021 at 21:48, Dusic said: Sounds like he will (finally) go out on loan - I reckon to L2 or National League. With Scott and Latham (both odd signings in the first place) released, surely there will be at least one Academy GK signed...an area we always seem weak. I'd assume Lewis will fill that bizarre position that seems to have grown up in the premier league(stuart taylor etc) of the 3rd choice match day warm up keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 June, 2021 Share Posted 6 June, 2021 On 04/06/2021 at 21:48, Dusic said: Sounds like he will (finally) go out on loan - I reckon to L2 or National League. With Scott and Latham (both odd signings in the first place) released, surely there will be at least one Academy GK signed...an area we always seem weak. He's been on loan before to Dundee Utd in the Scot Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 June, 2021 Share Posted 8 June, 2021 On 06/06/2021 at 20:10, VectisSaint said: He's been on loan before to Dundee Utd in the Scot Championship. Lewis signed very young from ..Shrewsbury (?) and has had a loan out chance in Scotland, but somehow is still here. Goalkeeping is a strange position to progress in - especially for a young man. Whilst outfield players can get their debut games as teenagers, many keepers still haven't made their mark when well into their twenties. Biggest problem is understudying an established international who has the first team spot and can play well into their 30's. (Don't know who the youngest "regular " Prem. keeper is ?....but there can't be so many). Those "Saints " who came young but later fell by the wayside include players like Bialkowski and Gazzaniga who had a few chances, but often failed to impress when called upon in an emergency when it mattered most. Even now many cannot agree on whether McCarthy or Forster should our best first choice custodian, and so Lewis' future is still in limbo. He may well get more B team chances, but our best young keeper of late is probably Jack Bycroft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 8 June, 2021 Share Posted 8 June, 2021 (edited) Meslier at Leeds (21), Sanchez at Brighton (23) and Henderson (24) are the three notable young goalkeepers off the top of my head. Think most others are 27+. Edited 8 June, 2021 by HarvSFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeremy Posted 28 June, 2021 Share Posted 28 June, 2021 Sorry, but is that list of contracts definite and Danny and Vest etc staying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldridge7 Posted 28 June, 2021 Share Posted 28 June, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeremy said: Sorry, but is that list of contracts definite and Danny and Vest etc staying? Danny and Vest contracts are up next summer so this wouldn't affect them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 28 June, 2021 Share Posted 28 June, 2021 On 08/06/2021 at 16:18, david in sweden said: Lewis signed very young from ..Shrewsbury (?) and has had a loan out chance in Scotland, but somehow is still here. Goalkeeping is a strange position to progress in - especially for a young man. Whilst outfield players can get their debut games as teenagers, many keepers still haven't made their mark when well into their twenties. Biggest problem is understudying an established international who has the first team spot and can play well into their 30's. (Don't know who the youngest "regular " Prem. keeper is ?....but there can't be so many). Those "Saints " who came young but later fell by the wayside include players like Bialkowski and Gazzaniga who had a few chances, but often failed to impress when called upon in an emergency when it mattered most. Even now many cannot agree on whether McCarthy or Forster should our best first choice custodian, and so Lewis' future is still in limbo. He may well get more B team chances, but our best young keeper of late is probably Jack Bycroft. When it comes to keepers it seems no point of trying to bring them through the ranks. Keepers rarely come good till their in the latter years. you don’t seem to get young keepers as a number 1 in our team so why persist? we buy ready made keepers. Genuine question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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egg Posted 2 July, 2021 Share Posted 2 July, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: That's a strange move, a relegation fight in a poor league. Good luck to him nonetheless Edited 2 July, 2021 by egg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 July, 2021 Share Posted 3 July, 2021 9 hours ago, egg said: That's a strange move, a relegation fight in a poor league. Good luck to him nonetheless Thought it was a good move actually, probably better than League One, at least some decent opposition, looks like guaranteed games, away from the spotlight of the EFL and with a decent manager/coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 3 July, 2021 Share Posted 3 July, 2021 1 minute ago, VectisSaint said: Thought it was a good move actually, probably better than League One, at least some decent opposition, looks like guaranteed games, away from the spotlight of the EFL and with a decent manager/coach. It's a mixed league so I guess he'll have some games where he can get forward more, and others where he'll be tested defensively. He's shown promise and needs games somewhere. Either way, it has to be better than a season of b team games, bench warming and a couple of cup games. Hopefully he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSAINT Posted 19 July, 2021 Share Posted 19 July, 2021 Sam McQueen’s contract is currently until January according to Dan Sheldon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 19 July, 2021 Share Posted 19 July, 2021 7 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Sam McQueen’s contract is currently until January according to Dan Sheldon. This should be on the official website not this athletic pay nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 July, 2021 Share Posted 22 July, 2021 On 13/07/2013 at 08:58, Over land and sea said: Allan Tchaptchet - offered contract extension Interesting we’ve not heard anything about this by now. I reckon he’s leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 July, 2021 Share Posted 23 July, 2021 9 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: On 13/07/2013 at 08:58, Over land and sea said: Allan Tchaptchet - offered contract extension Interesting we’ve not heard anything about this by now. I reckon he’s leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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