washsaint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Amongst all the excitement of who we are linked with, VW, etc. where does this leave JWP. He showed last season that he could be a great player for Saints but when will he get a game now? I can't help but feel the "big names" could unsettle the squad and also block terrific young talents like JWP from progressing. Catch 22 - club is ambitious - ambition will persuade the likes of SHaw to hang around but what about Chambers, Isgrove and JWP (amongst others)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 JWP has been spoken to about a loan out this season - he is keen to fight for his place. A loan deal is still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 JWP has been spoken to about a loan out this season - he is keen to fight for his place. A loan deal is still possible. Very good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Very good... Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 I'd like to see him playing in the '3' as our impact player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It leaves him as a talented 18 year old learning his trade with a great future in the game but who, like every other player, will need to prove himself good enough for the premier league. If he is good enough he'll play, if he isn't he won't. Its not difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It leaves him as a talented 18 year old learning his trade with a great future in the game but who, like every other player, will need to prove himself good enough for the premier league. If he is good enough he'll play, if he isn't he won't. Its not difficult. Spot on Sir, you can when you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It leaves him as a talented 18 year old learning his trade with a great future in the game but who, like every other player, will need to prove himself good enough for the premier league. If he is good enough he'll play, if he isn't he won't. Its not difficult. So if he proves to be as good as on a par with the likes of Schneiderlin and Wanyama he'll get in the side ahead of them and one of those two will drop to the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It leaves him as a talented 18 year old learning his trade with a great future in the game but who, like every other player, will need to prove himself good enough for the premier league. If he is good enough he'll play, if he isn't he won't. Its not difficult. Nope, its not rocket science. And to think some posters want you banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 So if he proves to be as good as on a par with the likes of Schneiderlin and Wanyama he'll get in the side ahead of them and one of those two will drop to the bench? Its a squad game numb nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 And to think some posters want you banned It's not that we want him banned. We would just appreciate it if he stops acting like an arrogant, uppity know-it-all pr*ck who's right about everything and no one should dare question or refute what he says, or he'll lay into that person from his high horse and make it seem like he owns these forums when really he's just like everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 A better squad to train with each day will improve his game, win-win situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It's not that we want him banned. We would just appreciate it if he stops acting like an arrogant, uppity know-it-all pr*ck who's right about everything and no one should dare question or refute what he says, or he'll lay into that person from his high horse and make it seem like he owns these forums when really he's just like everybody else. Turks doesn't own the forum. He just owns a significant proportion of the posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It's not that we want him banned. We would just appreciate it if he stops acting like an arrogant, uppity know-it-all pr*ck who's right about everything and no one should dare question or refute what he says, or he'll lay into that person from his high horse and make it seem like he owns these forums when really he's just like everybody else. Out of curiousity.....are you facepalming your own posts to save others the trouble, or what´s up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It's my understanding that the 2 (VW & JWP) are quite different players. VW playing in a much deeper role, ala Cork/Morgan, whereas JWP is a more advanced player - making up one of 'the 3', as it were. I personally wouldn't see the signing of Victor as a hindrance to JWP's development. I hope to see a bit more of him this season, I think he has the potential to work well in MP's system - where from what I can tell we play quite narrow - with 'the 3' playing just off the striker, and moving outwards into the channels, along with whoever leads the line (as opposed to wide players/wingers cutting inside from wide), I think the extra burden then falls onto the full-backs to bomb forward - hence the effectiveness of Shaw & Clyne in this system - who both have pace, decent technical ability on the ball and stamina, the DM's (or one at least) will then sit deep as the centre backs split, covering for the full backs. Well, in my not particularly tactically astute opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Turks doesn't own the forum. He just owns a significant proportion of the posters. Its one of those split ownership arrangement so common in Soccerball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It's not that we want him banned. We would just appreciate it if he stops acting like an arrogant, uppity know-it-all pr*ck who's right about everything and no one should dare question or refute what he says, or he'll lay into that person from his high horse and make it seem like he owns these forums when really he's just like everybody else. I think banning him would be more likely to have the desired effect. Sadly neither will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It leaves him as a talented 18 year old learning his trade with a great future in the game but who, like every other player, will need to prove himself good enough for the premier league. If he is good enough he'll play, if he isn't he won't. Its not difficult. So Danny Fox is good enough for the Prem because he's played in it? Fair enough. Same for Ali Dia? JWP has "a great future in the game" yet if he isn't good enough he wont play - but he has "a great future in the game"? Im finding this difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinger Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 :facepalm::facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 So Danny Fox is good enough for the Prem because he's played in it? Fair enough. Same for Ali Dia? JWP has "a great future in the game" yet if he isn't good enough he wont play - but he has "a great future in the game"? Im finding this difficult. I'm finding it difficult to understand what you're finding so difficult to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Out of curiousity.....are you facepalming your own posts to save others the trouble, or what´s up with that? I have a habit of preferring to skim these forums quickly so as not to get bogged down in petty arguments with any posters. Just read what's new and get out. Unfortunately when I see incredible stupidity from some posters I can't help but intervene to let them know how dumb they are sounding. Hence 90% of my posts are responses to such posts that deserve a facepalm since I'm lost for words. This was a somewhat decent question so nowt will be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinger Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 It's not that we want him banned. We would just appreciate it if he stops acting like an arrogant, uppity know-it-all pr*ck who's right about everything and no one should dare question or refute what he says, or he'll lay into that person from his high horse and make it seem like he owns these forums when really he's just like everybody else. And you end all of your posts with the facepalm; the emoticon to suggest you consider whatever you're responding to as depressingly stupid. I'm not sure I see much of a difference in your respective attitudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinger Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 I have a habit of preferring to skim these forums quickly so as not to get bogged down in petty arguments with any posters. Just read what's new and get out. Unfortunately when I see incredible stupidity from some posters I can't help but intervene to let them know how dumb they are sounding. Hence 90% of my posts are responses to such posts that deserve a facepalm since I'm lost for words. This was a somewhat decent question so nowt will be posted. Some might say that was the action of someone who was "arrogant, uppity" and a "know-it-all" commenting from "his high horse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 And you end all of your posts with the facepalm; the emoticon to suggest you consider whatever you're responding to as depressingly stupid. I'm not sure I see much of a difference in your respective attitudes. That was in response to Alpine's silly comment. Your lack of realisation of that means you my friend deserve one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Its not difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinger Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 That was in response to Alpine's silly comment. Your lack of realisation of that means you my friend deserve one too. Right yeah, that's definitely the point I missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Some might say that was the action of someone who was "arrogant, uppity" and a "know-it-all" commenting from "his high horse". Know the difference between objective stupidity and subjective differences of opinion no matter how twisted/unorthodox they may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinger Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Know the difference between objective stupidity and subjective differences of opinion no matter how twisted/unorthodox they may be. Thanks man, I'll definitely learn from that. Being available and competent to point out to strangers that they're stupid, no matter how trifling the issue, will make me a better person. I'll stop commenting on here until I've got something more scathing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 He will be learning from good players and himself wouldnt want to be a charity case. He will be around the squad still for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Better off going out on loan and playing 40 games in the Championship rather than sitting around for 10 minutes here and 10 minuites there. Needs to learn his trade. He's not a holding mid anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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