Winchester Red Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 With the news that the signing of VW is getting close, it got me thinking as to which players that we've signed for £1m+ fees have been worth the outlay. I came to the conclusion that typically players that cost lots typically don't pay their way, whilst economy purchases often are worth their weight in good. Examples being...... Mega bucks Delgado, Ramirez (so far), Delap, Mcloughlan,.... The juries still out on JRod £1m or less Lambert, spiderman, Moran, shaw, bridge, marsden..... This list could go on all night. So my question is. Which players that have cost a decent fee have made the grade? Best for me would be niemi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Killer? Dean Richards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 We've typically only made 'economy purchases' so there are going to be many more examples of cheap, successful players than expensive ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Depends on your definition of value for money. But Keegan has to be up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 10 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Killer? Dean Richards? Were either of these over £1m? I think we've made quite a few in the £1m - £2m bracket. My brain is just failing me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 10 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Depends on your definition of value for money. But Keegan has to be up there. Transfer few was def under £1m though. Plenty of those have been excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 10 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Depends on your definition of value for money. But Keegan has to be up there. Transfer few was def under £1m though. Plenty of those have been excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 We haven't signed that many player that cost a "decent fee" compared to todays market. Wasn't Delap our record signing until we signed Ramirez last season?Players like Lambert and Fonte cost us quite a bit for League One standards so I'd say they're the last ones that cost a decent fee that "made it".Another candidate would be Killer (2 million if I remember correctly).I'm not including last seasons signings. Can't judge after one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Peter Shilton, Jimmy Case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 I always had a soft spot for Jim Magilton. Was never going to set the world alight but chipped in with some important goals from midfield, could pass a ball, and all for just over Half a million quid. How much was Danny Fox? £1.6 million or something? He's a tricky one to argue about, as we got a good season out of him at nPC level but is not cut out for life in the Premier League against some of the world's best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 The best in my time has to be Dave Armstrong - £600,000 and our club record, when the world record was £1000,000 and a brilliant player for us. If VW comes close to Armstrong's ability he will be a quality signing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 10 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Needs a sliding scale really Alan Mcloughlan was bloody awful and £1m back then (with the income available) is prob the equiv of £10m today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Think we need some kind of catagorisation as things like player values are more definable by decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 The best in my time has to be Dave Armstrong - £600,000 and our club record, when the world record was £1000,000 and a brilliant player for us. If VW comes close to Armstrong's ability he will be a quality signing... If he comes close to DA he'll be worth she'd loads - fantastic player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Transfer few was def under £1m though. Plenty of those have been excellent Very few transfer fees were over £1M at the time we signed Keegan though. Can't remember how much we paid for KK, but a year later David Armstrong became our record signing at a stonking £440,000. And remained our record signing for a good few years, come to that. In other words, these things are all relative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Chris Marsden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Richard Chaplow was a good value pick up from memory - 50k comes to mind in his move from Preston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Kevin Davies - signed for £750k sold for 10 times that a year later Dean Richards free - sold for £8m Niemi and Michael Svenson - £2m each and two of the best players we've ever had in their positions Jimmy Case £50k, incredible. Mark Wright - signed for next to nowt, brilliant centre half Tim flowers - signed from Wolves for next to nowt, brilliant keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 How much was Hammond? 200k ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Very few transfer fees were over £1M at the time we signed Keegan though. Can't remember how much we paid for KK, but a year later David Armstrong became our record signing at a stonking £440,000. And remained our record signing for a good few years, come to that. In other words, these things are all relative... Keegan cost Saints £400,000 from Hamburg in 1980, Armstrong £600,000 from Boro a year later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Claus was about half a million iirc. A decade of loyal service there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Keegan cost Saints £400,000 from Hamburg in 1980, Armstrong £600,000 from Boro a year later... Ah, OK - I've clearly got confused on my transfer fees! I had £440,000 in my mind for some reason, so maybe that was Keegan. Either way, Armstrong was a fantastic signing at any price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 10 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2013 What did Ivan Golac cost? He was pretty special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 No mention of Pahars? He was pretty good value for £800,000 or so, wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Kind of feel bad for Wanyama cause he's got his work cut out to justify his £12m price tag and the added pressure of being at least same value for money as midfield partner £1m Schneiderlin. Good Luck Victor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Players can't do much about it. 500k years ago would have been like 12m today anyway. There have been poor value cheap players too. People might doubt Ramirez but his value won't have gone done much, so hardly a poor value signing. But then someone like Rasiak, 2m at a time when you're broke and with zero resale value, so despite the goals maybe a poor signing. We weren't broke at that point though, we were just gambling with the parachute payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Players can't do much about it. 500k years ago would have been like 12m today anyway. There have been poor value cheap players too. People might doubt Ramirez but his value won't have gone done much, so hardly a poor value signing. But then someone like Rasiak, 2m at a time when you're broke and with zero resale value, so despite the goals maybe a poor signing. Rasiak's goal at Pride Park was only a poor penalty or two away from promotion to much greater riches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Big Ron Davies RIP. I think we got change back out of a tenner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 How about Phil Boyer whose goals helped us into Div 1 and who was Div 1 top scorer in 79-80 + Mark Dennis who was superb (if a little crazy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 As for the actual question in the OP (which most seemed to have ignored) we generally haven't done well with players who've cost a lot in relative terms. I'd suggest Crouch was a good buy. Can't remember exactly how much he cost (£2m) but he scored a fair few goals and we sold him on at a considerable profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Cork and Morgan-each around a million or so but able to see off Man City , Liverpool and Chelsea and made Man U look like a pub team in the second half at Old Trafford. As for Wanyama £12-it is a huge amount of money for somebody untested at this level week in week out. Even is he is the player people think he is (based on a couple or so of champions league games last year) can he work within our system and settle into our team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 As for the actual question in the OP (which most seemed to have ignored) we generally haven't done well with players who've cost a lot in relative terms. I'd suggest Crouch was a good buy. Can't remember exactly how much he cost (£2m) but he scored a fair few goals and we sold him on at a considerable profit. We resurrected his career to be honest - he was a bit of a laughing stock at Villa, I remember one of his glaring misses at St Mary's... but then we signed him, gave him confidence, saw his touch come back and he never looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul75 Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 What about the Russian fella we signed at The Dell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Crouch - bought for £2.5m, 12 in 27, sold for £7m Beattie - came in valued at £1m as part of the £7m who received for Kevin Davis, scored 68 in 204, sold for £6m both value for money imo, and provided a good return on investment too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 I'd say that with whomever is at the helm, we've always been pretty good bargain hunters. Clyne and Davis last season were snips really and both had solid seasons contributing to the team. Both would be worth more than we paid for them if we sold them - Clyne much more so. Dean Richards is perhaps that best profit we've made. A Bosman, a couple of years of excellent service and we milked Spurs for £8 million. Even with his acrimonious departure under the Hoddle cloud, that was an excellent sum of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 11 July, 2013 Share Posted 11 July, 2013 Been thinking this over, and McMenemy had a cracking track record in getting value from big money and bargain basement signings. The only big money 'flop' that springs to mind is probably Charlie George (who still managed a goal every four games as an attacking midfielder), but that was mainly due to a horrendous run of injuries. You could argue that he always paid big money for proven 'thoroughbreds' but they always seemed to hold form or indeed improve at Saints, Shilton a case in point here. As for the bargain basements, starting at left back - how about 27 year old Ivan Golac from Partizan Belgrade for £50,000, or his replacement the 22 year old Mark Dennis for £30,000. What price now!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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