St.Patrik Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 If it´s money - a nice fat signing on bonus will do it - well at least to make his agent happy enough to tell the guy to sign the dotted line.
itchen_dan Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Business just picked up. itchen_dan is ramping up the twitter posts C'mon Osvaldo - Please sign! Another deadline day saga looms...
Olallana Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 For me, this is the player that it would be worth to overpay a bit.... Perfect striker for our system and he knows the system and has thrived under it before....
SuperSAINT Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 For me, this is the player that it would be worth to overpay a bit.... Perfect striker for our system and he knows the system and has thrived under it before.... Agree. Plus Poch has managed him before so I'm not too bothered about his antics at Roma that have been reported. Players like Osvaldo & Banega are players that can take you up a level.
itchen_dan Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Right, according to Di Marzio (leading journalist in Italy) we already have an €18m + €2m agreement with Roma for the player dimarzio: @tarakammous al giocatore. 3 mil al giocatore. Col club c'è già accordo a 18 più 2 dimarzio: @ tarakammous to the player. 3 mil to the player. There is already agreement with the club to 18 plus 2
Give it to Ron Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 So you dont think a Lambert with great speed would suit our needs? Where did I say we didn't? Just that I watched Bony a lot and for 12m would of been exactly what we were looking for. The guy has turned down us down and Wolfsburg? has a record of incidents....we had and still have better options than gambling on someone who doesnt want to come here.
St.Patrik Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Dan - do you think this transfer will happen? Right, according to Di Marzio (leading journalist in Italy) we already have an €18m + €2m agreement with Roma for the player dimarzio: @tarakammous al giocatore. 3 mil al giocatore. Col club c'è già accordo a 18 più 2 dimarzio: @ tarakammous to the player. 3 mil to the player. There is already agreement with the club to 18 plus 2
Olallana Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Where did I say we didn't? Just that I watched Bony a lot and for 12m would of been exactly what we were looking for. The guy has turned down us down and Wolfsburg? has a record of incidents....we had and still have better options than gambling on someone who doesnt want to come here. I read your last sentence to quick about a different striker to what we have. But Bony and Vydra are gone and probably not identified as targets by our management. Out of curiousity, could you name any of those better options now?
itchen_dan Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 reluctantnicko: @danbsfc Find it all a bit hard to believe. danbsfc: @reluctantnicko So do the majority of Saints fans! Similar to Ramirez last summer, will be a huge deal if the Don can pull it off. danbsfc: @reluctantnicko Same journo also saying Saints have an agreement of €18m + €2m in add ons with Roma. Huge fee. reluctantnicko: @danbsfc Sometimes the wild goose is actually caught ... reluctantnicko: @danbsfc Good players keep their value.
dan abnormal Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Minarzouki: @Sachk0 Pochettino is all Southampton need to push for a top 8 place imo Whatever that last tweet means, i don't know? shes a big fan of pochettino - Mina Rzouki @Minarzouki 22 May If Pellegrini leaves Spain, as we expect, than La Liga has lost 3 of its best Coaches this yr: Pochettino, Pellegrini & Montanier would also love osvaldo to sign, excellent player who already knows the coach and his tactics. i also dont think he will need much of a "settling in" period due to the fact hes already worked with Mp before. much rather spend 18m on him than the 26m quoted for damiao (hes worth no way near that imo)
Give it to Ron Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 I read your last sentence to quick about a different striker to what we have. But Bony and Vydra are gone and probably not identified as targets by our management. Out of curiousity, could you name any of those better options now? Defoe would be one - proven Premiership goalscorer - English so adds to that requirement, something different to what we have.
Wade Garrett Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 I don't think Cortese will let this drag until the end of the window, in case it fails, then he's up the creek without an alternative. By the sound of it, he's offered good money to the lad. Now, I reckon it's a take it now or leave it job. Playing for Italy tonight, so no deal today, but an answer tomorrow.
itchen_dan Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Dan - do you think this transfer will happen? This is the one the club really want...
Olallana Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Right, according to Di Marzio (leading journalist in Italy) we already have an €18m + €2m agreement with Roma for the player dimarzio: @tarakammous al giocatore. 3 mil al giocatore. Col club c'è già accordo a 18 più 2 dimarzio: @ tarakammous to the player. 3 mil to the player. There is already agreement with the club to 18 plus 2 If those figures are correct I cant see many other clubs coming in for that kind of fee and Roma will keep pushing him to accept our offer. And that he has turned us down before isn´t an issue IMO. It could be strategics from him to negotiate and get a better salary, I have done the same in the past with employers...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 I seed from Wiki that he has played in the same team as with Papa Waigo. Surely he must have heard good things about the club?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 (edited) Oh please let him sign, please. no thanks Edited 23 January, 2014 by Glasgow_Saint
radio slave Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 to me, this de rossi quote sounds like he's more likely off somewhere rather than staying with roma... De Rossi said he was unsure whether Roma team-mate Pablo Osvaldo - who has been linked with moves to Fulham and Southampton - would stay with the club. "I don't know if I'm optimistic or not on the Osvaldo situation," he said. "I'm his friend and I'm optimistic when I know he's happy, so if he's happy staying at Roma I'll be happy for him, but I'll be happy for him even if he prefers going to another team. "Roma would surely lose a very strong player without him and we would lose a great guy, a team-mate, a friend. "Anyway it's not my or your business, it's up to them to make this decision, I wouldn't like anyone to express their opinion on my future decisions so I don't do it for anyone. I really don't know what will happen." http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2013/08/14/4185307/de-rossi-saddened-by-messi-absence
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 According to reports in Italy, Internazionale are closing in on a deal for Sunderland and Saints target Pablo Osvaldo.
Lazlo78 Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 According to reports in Italy, Internazionale are closing in on a deal for Sunderland and Saints target Pablo Osvaldo. I believe you, Unbelievable Jeff.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 I believe you, Unbelievable Jeff. Ta, it's from F365.
Appy Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Pretty sure the whole point of Roma being so keen to sell to us is so he doesn't sign for Inter.
Saint Charlie Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Di Marzio is the most ITK transfer guy in Italy. Would be class if we signed Osvaldo!
itchen_dan Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Inter are trying hard but haven't got the cash http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://m.napolimagazine.com.cn/calcio/calcio-inter-mazzarri-non-molla-osvaldo-204427&usg=ALkJrhgxcZ1Ew3CNPzUnUKOFUFRMMV1mKA
Bewildered Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Inter are trying hard but haven't got the cash http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://m.napolimagazine.com.cn/calcio/calcio-inter-mazzarri-non-molla-osvaldo-204427&usg=ALkJrhgxcZ1Ew3CNPzUnUKOFUFRMMV1mKA I can see why Roma wouldn't take that. A Loan which only becomes permanent if they qualify for the CL (unlikely, as there are only 3 places available and five teams with better squads, including Roma themselves)
itchen_dan Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Benfica also interested http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://m.fcinternews.it/news/sky-osvaldo-spunta-il-benfica-l-inter-lo-vuole-123953&usg=ALkJrhhqWUn7jP1FW5d9u5vzZtb4qYxheQ
itchen_dan Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/southampton-increases-offer-for-osvaldo-the-details/
JoeShmoe Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Looks like our offer is just smoking out other clubs and no doubt his agent is peddling him everywhere
Suhari Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Looks like our offer is just smoking out other clubs and no doubt his agent is peddling him everywhere Looks that way doesn't it. But who else has had an offer accepted? All very well expressing interest. This is feeling more and more like the Ramirez and Wanyama transfers. Might. Start. To believe.
itchen_dan Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 @tancredipalmeri: Benfica have contacted Roma for Southampton's target Osvaldo, according to Sky Italy. Likely the deal would be linked to Cardozo exit
Viking Warrior Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Cardiff are also tabling a bid , but no sign of a bid from QPR or poopey
alehouseboys Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 @tancredipalmeri: Benfica have contacted Roma for Southampton's target Osvaldo, according to Sky Italy. Likely the deal would be linked to Cardozo exit Damn...I was just dusting off that old 70s Peter Osgood chant... "Oh, Oh, Oh, Os...sie, OS...ssie, I'd walk a million miles for one of your goals, Oh, Os...sie!"
MarkSFC Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Why are we continuing with this madness....he doesn't want to come here. There are better and more reachable targets...we should of gone for Bony, Vydra or even Defoe a different type of striker to what we have. You've spoken to him about it have you? Very likely he wants to see if there are better offers..which there are of course many, mainly those in the CL...BUT it does not mean he WILL NOT come here. Whoever ends up signing for us even if they wanted better is fine by me...they only ruin their career if they do not perform especially in WC year.
ollysaints1 Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Not particularly worried by interest from Benfica, I can't see the Portugese league being appealing to him. I'm not particularly fussed by interest from Inter Milan either, they have very little money to play with and I can't see them parting with €20,000,000.
Latheal Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Where is Cardozo going out of interest? http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11704/8857204/transfer-news-benficas-oscar-cardozo-keen-on-securing-move-away-from-club All I could find with a quick search. At that money and that age, not very far I would assume!
Give it to Ron Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 I don't understand why people go on about Bony. Why would we have been able to get him instead of Swansea? They've just won a cup, have a world famous manager, European football etc. To get better players at this stage we probably need to go after players Swansea can't afford. Why would Osvaldo come here? I go on about him because he IMo is exactly what we need. I watched him ..have you? How can we go after players Swansea can't afford...Bony was £12m...Osvaldo cost about £18m?
goneawol Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Update on a situation that we have followed in detail in recent days. The Southampton is making important steps to Osvaldo. It's a continuous pressure from the English club. The coach of Southampton Mauricio Pochettino Osvaldo put at the top of my wishlist. Pochettino knows the attacker since the time ofEspanyol. The club's optimism grows also because it would not be a problem to find an agreement with the person concerned and with Rome. The last word is, of course, the giallorosso club. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alfredopedulla.com%2Farticoli%2F27095-esclusiva-osvaldo-il-southampton-in-pressing
Give it to Ron Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 You've spoken to him about it have you? Very likely he wants to see if there are better offers..which there are of course many, mainly those in the CL...BUT it does not mean he WILL NOT come here. Whoever ends up signing for us even if they wanted better is fine by me...they only ruin their career if they do not perform especially in WC year. Yeah he phoned me a couple of minutes ago..... Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri 2h Southampton have raised the bid re Osvaldo's wages, according to Sky Italy. So far the deal hasn't go through cause Osvaldo turned them down that says to me he doesnt want to come here....if you know different then fine.
Matthew Le God Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Yeah he phoned me a couple of minutes ago..... Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri 2h Southampton have raised the bid re Osvaldo's wages, according to Sky Italy. So far the deal hasn't go through cause Osvaldo turned them down that says to me he doesnt want to come here....if you know different then fine. You've taken a leap there, turning down a wage offer doesn't mean he wouldn't want to come here.
Matthew Le God Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 How can we go after players Swansea can't afford...Bony was £12m...Osvaldo cost about £18m? Have you considered Saints might have more money than Swansea?
Olallana Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Yeah he phoned me a couple of minutes ago..... Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri 2h Southampton have raised the bid re Osvaldo's wages, according to Sky Italy. So far the deal hasn't go through cause Osvaldo turned them down that says to me he doesnt want to come here....if you know different then fine. So if you were offered a job that might interest you, would you take it for any type of wages even if you think you could get mote/you think you deserve more?
ToreSF Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 You've taken a leap there, turning down a wage offer doesn't mean he wouldn't want to come here. So you're saying that he wants to come here but is unhappy with the wage offer?
Matthew Le God Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 So you're saying that he wants to come here but is unhappy with the wage offer? No, I'm saying it is a strange logic Give it to Ron is using. I have no idea what Osvaldo has or hasn't done. But turning down a wage offer, does not mean a player by default wouldn't be interested in a move, merely he isn't happy with that particular offer. It is a negotiation process.
hutch Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 I think people are saying we have no idea what Osvaldo thinks, because there isn't one single first-hand quote anywhere on this thread.
Give it to Ron Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Have you considered Saints might have more money than Swansea? Of course ...and all the other factors, better manager, won something , in Europe but the point you are missing and I am badly trying to make is that we missed IMO a better target - far cheaper and with a better offer than Swansea miore attainable - thats based on me watching Bony.
hutch Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Do you really mean better, or do you mean more achievable?
Give it to Ron Posted 14 August, 2013 Posted 14 August, 2013 Do you really mean better, or do you mean more achievable? As I have seen very little of Osvaldo I can't really answer that - just looking at whole package - number of clubs each has had, incidents, wages. Its not just Bony though I think we could of gone for other targets as well. TBH I made a bit of a cock up with Osvaldo and the not wanting to come here as along with that twitter I thought it was him that made the ambitious club statement but checked again and that was Damiao.
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