yorkshiresaint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 With the potential signings of Wanyama, Damiao and also Benega with Lovren already signed and our 14th placed finish last season, realistically where do people think we will finish next season? Top 10, Top 6, maybe a Cup Final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I'm thinking 10th or 11th climbing another few places the season after next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Best = 9th Worst = 14th I'd be happy with 10th-12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Hopefully we take one of the cups seriously this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I've said it on here before, if only we could reduce the amount of points we throw away from a winning position, top 10 would be well within reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Best = 9th Worst = 14th I'd be happy with 10th-12th. Really? 14th is worst case scenario? Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 If these quality players come in (along with some possible frees, Boruc style bargains etc.) we have got to be looking at top ten, if not breaking top eight. Would love a cup win and would take League cup in a heartbeat as success builds momentum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 if sign the type of players rumoured top 10 would be expected top 8 very good season top 6+ awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Best = 9th Worst = 14th I'd be happy with 10th-12th. Watford made the play offs last season mate, you'd settle for midtable?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Peels Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Quite frankly, I just want to stay up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 6th with a realistic expectation of 10th. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 6th with a realistic expectation of 10th. Or something. are you sure? the squad with no new signings was good enough for 6th. IF we get all these players then surely it should be top, with realistic expectations of 4-6 but will settle for 7th as that is on place above where we finished under Lowe when we had no money or ambition. or Something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Can't we get THIS season out of the way first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 are you sure? the squad with no new signings was good enough for 6th. IF we get all these players then surely it should be top, with realistic expectations of 4-6 but will settle for 7th as that is on place above where we finished under Lowe when we had no money or ambition. or Something. Turks, this may be asking too much, but what do you seriously (sorry) think...? What would you be happy with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Top 10 and a cup run would do me very nicely indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 A mid-table finish with a few good wins against the bigger sides thrown in. Also a cup final..... well, that's not an expectation as such.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Turks, this may be asking too much, but what do you seriously (sorry) think...? What would you be happy with? if we get the players we are meant to be in for then minimum top 10 with 6-8th a posibility if a lot goes right. I'd also hope we take the cups seriously and have a good run in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 4th and FA Cup winners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 if we get the players we are meant to be in for then minimum top 10 with 6-8th a posibility if a lot goes right. I'd also hope we take the cups seriously and have a good run in them. Ta - I would agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 If those players sign we should be aiming for Europe. Or put another way could we top Liverpool and Everton with the extra reinforcements? Yes we could. Just look at the team we'd have. - A Brazilian international + England's top goal scorer up front + an exciting young prospect with great potential. - A very destructive midfield with the creativity of a Benega\Ramirez. - Champs league quality CB + GK. - Two of England's most exciting full backs. We'd be a team to be reckoned with IMO. Can we pull these players in though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Saint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 We could finish anywhere between about 8th and 20th. Despite the ridiculous optimism on here we're still likely to be a couple of injuries away from being one of the poorer sides in the division. With most of our new players coming from abroad as well, there's going to be a settling in period for some of them. Realistically we'll be lower mid-table..between about 12th and 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 We could finish anywhere between about 8th and 20th. Despite the ridiculous optimism on here we're still likely to be a couple of injuries away from being one of the poorer sides in the division. With most of our new players coming from abroad as well, there's going to be a settling in period for some of them. Realistically we'll be lower mid-table..between about 12th and 15th. Yep; getting humbled at home to WBA was an indicator of the fragility of the side and how we weren't (aren't) a top ten side. It's all very well saying we weren't far away from 10th place, but we didn't finish in 10th place, we finished in 14th, 5 points off 10th. You can pick the bones out of it and rue how unlucky we were in some games to finish that low; but every other team around us can do the exact same, to some degree. So we finished where we deserved to finish, and need to strengthen to have a realistic chance of improvement. 12th - 16th is the minimum I'd hope for with this squad; below that would be a disappointment. 10th is achieveable with the signing of Lovren, though I'd consider it a fanastics achievement with no more signings. Throw in a few more players in vital areas and top 8 would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 - Champs league quality CB + GK. Careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Anything thats not a relegation dog fight suits me but of course a good tilt at eight would be more then welcome and would genuinely be made up with a good old fashioned bit of magic in the fa cup. Never been to the new wembley ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 (edited) Why is that 1 game an indicator of why we weren't a top 10 side? Because it came at a time when many fans were talking about our unstoppable march into Europe; it was a shot in the arm for the fact that we weren't even a top ten side, and got totally undone by a team who was. If you'd prefer I could also point to our last 6 games of the season where we took 4 points and ended the season with a whimper. When you're talking about a handful of points the difference either way can just be luck, injuries, the width of a post. Our squad could have come 8th or 18th last season with a little more luck for or against. But we didn't. We came 14th. We had good luck and bad luck along the way. So its entirely pointless saying that we could have done this or that; we didn't. And quite obviously the best way to ensure we improve is to go actually go and and bring in players who improve us as a squad, rather than lament our poor run of luck that deprived us from a top ten spot which we didn't actually achieve by some distance. Edited 5 July, 2013 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I've been asked by FourFourTwo for my thoughts on next season and I said midtable would do me. A year on year improvement would be no bad thing as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I've been asked by FourFourTwo for my thoughts on next season and I said midtable would do me. A year on year improvement would be no bad thing as far as I'm concerned. It might be good enough for a lot of the supporter base that hadn't seen Premier League mid table safety since 2004. But if Cortese wants to attract the likes of Damiao, Banega and Wanyama plus keeping Shaw, Clyne, Lovren, Ramirez and Schneiderlin happy then the club will have to be aiming higher than merely mid-table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 It might be good enough for a lot of the supporter base that hadn't seen Premier League mid table safety since 2004. But if Cortese wants to attract the likes of Damiao, Banega and Wanyama plus keeping Shaw, Clyne, Lovren, Ramirez and Schneiderlin happy then the club will have to be aiming higher than merely mid-table. Great. I was talking about me. Not anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Great. I was talking about me. Not anyone else. Would you not be disappointed that after 2 years and perhaps upwards of £80m spent, the team only got a mid table finish in 2013/14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Great. I was talking about me. Not anyone else. Pfft that's the trouble with youth these days, its just me me me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dello Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 But we're talking about the future, and you're just looking back. I'm not the one saying "look at this game, and that one,, and that one..." when it comes to judging us. I see we finished 14th last season; done, we finished where we deserved. So we move on. You need to look more inwardly to see where the looking back is coming from. Forget it's Southampton. A side a few points off 10th can very easily come 10th with a bit of luck, and as I said, go the other way too. It seems very odd to suggest such a gap when it clearly isn't there. You're making it hugely black and white, but I don't think many watching could say the current side is the same one that had that bad start to the season. It could happen again, but seems unlikely. Again, looking back. Never mind where we finished and where we could have finished. We didn't. Next season is a whole new year, and to improve on last season the best way is to bring in better players and improve a squad that were only good enough to finish 14th. Obvious. Resting on laurels, blaming luck, and "looking back" simply isn't the way, its a pointless exercise. As for the start of the season; we finished with 4 points from 6 games. So "looking back" at games in isolation is equally pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 It might be good enough for a lot of the supporter base that hadn't seen Premier League mid table safety since 2004. But if Cortese wants to attract the likes of Damiao, Banega and Wanyama plus keeping Shaw, Clyne, Lovren, Ramirez and Schneiderlin happy then the club will have to be aiming higher than merely mid-table. What are your expectations for next season? Mine is 8th in the league, with one semi final appearance in a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 What are your expectations for next season? I'd like to see what else we do in the transfer market first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I'd like to see what else we do in the transfer market first. So you're happy to criticise others posts, but won't dare give an opinion of your own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I'd like to see what else we do in the transfer market first. are u not in receipt #ITKPM2013-2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 So you're happy to criticise others posts, but won't dare give an opinion of your own? Have you never read a post from MLG before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 (edited) I think the squad as it currently stands could finish 8th. We'd need some extra quality players like Pochettino has talked about to finish higher. Edited 5 July, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 are u not in receipt #ITKPM2013-2? Clearly not, care to PM me then? I look forward to receiving it Mr Bearsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I am not originator of #ITKPM2013-2! It is mostly distributed to muppets, but if u do a post in muppet show i will bend a rule + forward you the infos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 If we made those signings and kept our other star players, there is very little reason that we couldn't get 4th at best and 6th eminently possible. Apart from the caveat about us signing those players and them bedding in well, factors that might affect other teams at the top could come into play. Amongst them will be how Man Utd fare under Moyse, how Everton fare without him, whether Spurs lose Bale, Liverpool lose Suarez, new managers at Chelsea and Man City, etc. Naturally, one wouldn't expect the likes of Mourinho to flounder at Chelsea, nor the new bloke at City, but who knows? I'd like to think that at our top strength after this level of signings, we could potentially go ahead of Liverpool, perhaps Spurs and Everton. That seems a bit of a fantasy, but it isn't totally beyond the realms of possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 If we made those signings and kept our other star players, there is very little reason that we couldn't get 4th at best and 6th eminently possible. Apart from the caveat about us signing those players and them bedding in well, factors that might affect other teams at the top could come into play. Amongst them will be how Man Utd fare under Moyse, how Everton fare without him, whether Spurs lose Bale, Liverpool lose Suarez, new managers at Chelsea and Man City, etc. Naturally, one wouldn't expect the likes of Mourinho to flounder at Chelsea, nor the new bloke at City, but who knows? I'd like to think that at our top strength after this level of signings, we could potentially go ahead of Liverpool, perhaps Spurs and Everton. That seems a bit of a fantasy, but it isn't totally beyond the realms of possibility. there are a mental amount of reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Depends who we sign. If we go out and spend £40 million then I'd expect us to finish around 8th. If we buy no more players then about the same position again but without the threat of relegation. Asked my 7yo what he expects, and he just said "some goals". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I find it extremely hard to forecast this season. I am not at all sure that MP can create a team that performs with some consistency. We could do really good (like top 6) but I can also see us struggling to survive, especially if he brings in some big egos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Depends who we sign. If we go out and spend £40 million then I'd expect us to finish around 8th. If we buy no more players then about the same position again but without the threat of relegation. Asked my 7yo what he expects, and he just said "some goals". Interesting thought. That's probably what it costs a promoted team to stay up. What if that £40m was invested in 40 crap players at £1m each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Interesting thought. That's probably what it costs a promoted team to stay up. What if that £40m was invested in 40 crap players at £1m each? that is MLG'ing the point as no club has ever done that, then I cant see saints or say, cardiff doing it either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 that is MLG'ing the point as no club has ever done that, then I cant see saints or say, cardiff doing it either Ha! I'm sure he's delighted his abbreviated name is now an adjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 If we made those signings and kept our other star players, there is very little reason that we couldn't get 4th at best and 6th eminently possible. Apart from the caveat about us signing those players and them bedding in well, factors that might affect other teams at the top could come into play. Amongst them will be how Man Utd fare under Moyse, how Everton fare without him, whether Spurs lose Bale, Liverpool lose Suarez, new managers at Chelsea and Man City, etc. Naturally, one wouldn't expect the likes of Mourinho to flounder at Chelsea, nor the new bloke at City, but who knows? I'd like to think that at our top strength after this level of signings, we could potentially go ahead of Liverpool, perhaps Spurs and Everton. That seems a bit of a fantasy, but it isn't totally beyond the realms of possibility. Lot of contradictions there. Is there very little reason we couldn't get 4th or lots of reasons as you yourself list? If there is very little reason why we couldn't get 4th, why do you also say it 'seems a bit of fantasy'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Until transfer window closes difficult to predict how we will do. IMO 20-18=disaster (sack) 17-15=disappointing (sack v likely) 14-11=acceptable 10-8=very good season 7-6=amazing season 5-1=no chance Knowing the markets we are shopping in, I think that if we can secure 3+ quality players 10th-8th would be achievable. I really cant see any better than this in the league. If we got 4 or 5 in then outside chance of 7th-6th could be a possibility. Europe this year is a distant dream unless we get a cup run which would add gloss to our league position, a cup win would not be impossible and would be incredible for us. Not a huge fan of the league cup tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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