The Met Police and Madeline Mccann

[Viking Warrior]

As I said earlier . I have know idea what happened re Madeline .

 

How do the mcanns and their friends know exactly what time they went to check on their kids when they are slurping wine . Did they keep a log .

In the show mcann said Madeline asked them where they were when one of the boys was crying and they were not about . You would have thought they would gave been more. Careful leaving the kids alone . So like hutch the McCann are responsible for leaving their kids alone .

 

Also how come after 6,5 years the police receive over 300 phone calls and 170 emails based on a 30 minute crime watch programme . Where have these people been in the last 6.5 years how many were crank calls ?

 

Finally let's not forget about that little boy Ben Needham who went missing all those years ago and every other child that has his appeared over the years .

[hutch]

As I said earlier . I have know idea what happened re Madeline .

 

How do the mcanns and their friends know exactly what time they went to check on their kids when they are slurping wine . Did they keep a log .

In the show mcann said Madeline asked them where they were when one of the boys was crying and they were not about . You would have thought they would gave been more. Careful leaving the kids alone . So like hutch the McCann are responsible for leaving their kids alone .

 

Also how come after 6,5 years the police receive over 300 phone calls and 170 emails based on a 30 minute crime watch programme . Where have these people been in the last 6.5 years how many were crank calls ?

 

Finally let's not forget about that little boy Ben Needham who went missing all those years ago and every other child that has his appeared over the years .

Oi, it weren't me mate. I was nowhere near the place, I've never even been to Portugal.

[bridge too far]

As I said earlier . I have know idea what happened re Madeline .

 

How do the mcanns and their friends know exactly what time they went to check on their kids when they are slurping wine . Did they keep a log .

In the show mcann said Madeline asked them where they were when one of the boys was crying and they were not about . You would have thought they would gave been more. Careful leaving the kids alone . So like hutch the McCann are responsible for leaving their kids alone .

 

Also how come after 6,5 years the police receive over 300 phone calls and 170 emails based on a 30 minute crime watch programme . Where have these people been in the last 6.5 years how many were crank calls ?

 

Finally let's not forget about that little boy Ben Needham who went missing all those years ago and every other child that has his appeared over the years .

 

My thoughts exactly. They are showing the reconstruction in Germany apparently. What a shame they aren't so keen to publicise the disappearance of that little girl from the Gosport area who disappeared in Germany 30 odd years ago when her parents were serving in Germany?

 

I guess you have to be 'respectable middle-class parents' to arrange for this sort of publicity.

[Hockey_saint]

I'll tell you what, one of those e-fit's n'arf look like Maddie's dad.

[Saint-scooby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrn0eWFmQ4k

[richie]

My thoughts exactly. They are showing the reconstruction in Germany apparently. What a shame they aren't so keen to publicise the disappearance of that little girl from the Gosport area who disappeared in Germany 30 odd years ago when her parents were serving in Germany?

 

I guess you have to be 'respectable middle-class parents' to arrange for this sort of publicity.

 

If you watch crimewatch you'll realise they showed that on crimewatch a few months ago, if its the one where the girl went missing in the supermarket in germany.

[richie]

As I said earlier . I have know idea what happened re Madeline .

 

How do the mcanns and their friends know exactly what time they went to check on their kids when they are slurping wine . Did they keep a log .

In the show mcann said Madeline asked them where they were when one of the boys was crying and they were not about . You would have thought they would gave been more. Careful leaving the kids alone . So like hutch the McCann are responsible for leaving their kids alone .

 

Also how come after 6,5 years the police receive over 300 phone calls and 170 emails based on a 30 minute crime watch programme . Where have these people been in the last 6.5 years how many were crank calls ?

 

Finally let's not forget about that little boy Ben Needham who went missing all those years ago and every other child that has his appeared over the years .

 

Look I think the mcann's realise they could have done things differently that night. We get it.

 

Plus 99.9% of the calls will be ****. But there will be one or two which will be gold dust and could unlock the case. But thats the same for all appeals on CW. The OB know the drill and can sift out the pranksters.

[ecuk268]

I liked the bit where Kate McCann said "I've done nothing wrong here".

 

Leaving a 3-year old and 2-year old twins on their own for up to an hour? It's not just the fact that she could have woken up and wandered into the kitchen where there's all sorts of hazards. Kids that age often have bad dreams and wake up wanting their Mum or Dad. Imagine how frightened she would have been not finding her parents.

 

I would say that they've done an awful lot wrong.

[Viking Warrior]

Hutch

 

Sorry mate bad gramma on my behalf. It was early this morning went i posted that,

[pap]

The dodgiest thing about the whole affair has to be Kate McCanns refusal to answer 48 questions posed by the Portuguese police, including many that would have helped to find an abducted child.

[Window Cleaner]

The dodgiest thing about the whole affair has to be Kate McCanns refusal to answer 48 questions posed by the Portuguese police, including many that would have helped to find an abducted child.

 

questions pertaining to what ?

[pap]

questions pertaining to what ?

 

1. On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?

2. Did you search inside the bedroom wardrobe? (she replied that she wouldn’t answer)

3. (shown 2 photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?

4. Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (whose photo was shown to her) been tampered with? Did somebody go behind that sofa?

5. How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected your daughter Madeleine’s disappearance?

6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

7. Assuming Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins home alone to go to the ‘Tapas’ and raise the alarm? Because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment.

8. Why didn’t you ask the twins, at that moment, what had happened to their sister or why didn’t you ask them later on?

9. When you raised the alarm at the ‘Tapas’ what exactly did you say and what were your exact words?

10. What happened after you raised the alarm in the ‘Tapas’?

11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

12. Who contacted the authorities?

13. Who took place in the searches?

14. Did anyone outside of the group learn of Madeleine’s disappearance in those following minutes?

15. Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?

16. What does 'we let her down' mean?

17. Did Jane tell you that night that she’d seen a man with a child?

18. How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?

19. During the searches, with the police already there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?

20. Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?

21. Who did you phone after the occurrence?

22. Did you call Sky News?

23. Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?

24. Did you ask for a priest?

25. By what means did you divulge Madeleine’s features, by photographs or by any other means?

26. Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?

27. What was your behaviour that night?

28. Did you manage to sleep?

29. Before travelling to Portugal did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?

30. What was Madeleine’s behaviour like?

31. Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?

32. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister?

33. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?

34. As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?

35. What is your medical specialty?

36. Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?

37. Did you work every day?

38. At a certain point you stopped working, why?

39. Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?

40. Is it true that sometimes you despaired with your children’s behaviour and that left you feeling very uneasy?

41. Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?

42. In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?

43. In the case files you were SHOWN CANINE forensic testing films, where you can see them marking due to detection of the scent of human corpse and blood traces, also human, and only human, as well as all the comments of the technician in charge of them. After watching and after the marking of the scent of corpse in your bedroom beside the wardrobe and behind the sofa, pushed up against the sofa wall, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

44. When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

45. When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

46. When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

47. When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, whose analysis was carried out in a British laboratory, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

48. Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter’s disappearance?

[Window Cleaner]

1. On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?

2. Did you search inside the bedroom wardrobe? (she replied that she wouldn’t answer)

3. (shown 2 photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?

4. Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (whose photo was shown to her) been tampered with? Did somebody go behind that sofa?

5. How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected your daughter Madeleine’s disappearance?

6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

7. Assuming Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins home alone to go to the ‘Tapas’ and raise the alarm? Because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment.

8. Why didn’t you ask the twins, at that moment, what had happened to their sister or why didn’t you ask them later on?

9. When you raised the alarm at the ‘Tapas’ what exactly did you say and what were your exact words?

10. What happened after you raised the alarm in the ‘Tapas’?

11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

12. Who contacted the authorities?

13. Who took place in the searches?

14. Did anyone outside of the group learn of Madeleine’s disappearance in those following minutes?

15. Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?

16. What does 'we let her down' mean?

17. Did Jane tell you that night that she’d seen a man with a child?

18. How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?

19. During the searches, with the police already there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?

20. Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?

21. Who did you phone after the occurrence?

22. Did you call Sky News?

23. Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?

24. Did you ask for a priest?

25. By what means did you divulge Madeleine’s features, by photographs or by any other means?

26. Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?

27. What was your behaviour that night?

28. Did you manage to sleep?

29. Before travelling to Portugal did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?

30. What was Madeleine’s behaviour like?

31. Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?

32. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister?

33. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?

34. As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?

35. What is your medical specialty?

36. Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?

37. Did you work every day?

38. At a certain point you stopped working, why?

39. Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?

40. Is it true that sometimes you despaired with your children’s behaviour and that left you feeling very uneasy?

41. Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?

42. In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?

43. In the case files you were SHOWN CANINE forensic testing films, where you can see them marking due to detection of the scent of human corpse and blood traces, also human, and only human, as well as all the comments of the technician in charge of them. After watching and after the marking of the scent of corpse in your bedroom beside the wardrobe and behind the sofa, pushed up against the sofa wall, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

44. When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

45. When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

46. When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

47. When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, whose analysis was carried out in a British laboratory, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

48. Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter’s disappearance?

 

And have the UK police re-asked all those questions of her since ?

[Barry Sanchez]

I feel for the family but like many feel

Not only did they leave Madeleine but also the twins

If this was in the UK and the people concerned were working class they would be inside and the press would hammer them

If this happened in Portugal and the people concerned were working class they would be inside and the press would hammer them

Could they not have eaten closer to their family

 

As a paper has a described them, sharp elbowed middle class, they also obviously know people very very well connected and this would have never continued on as long as it has.

[Bearsy]

the worst thing bout the whole affair is the affect it has had on Kate McCann's sex life. She did whole interview in newspapers bout how she can't hardly bring herself to make sweet passionate love to Gerry no more. It made me sick yo.

[pap]

And have the UK police re-asked all those questions of her since ?

 

Leicestershire Police re-interviewed the Tapas Seven. No idea whether those questions were asked, but it had already been decided that it was an abduction case at that point. In any normal case, the inconsistencies in the various accounts ( either from different people or the same people when asked at different times ) would have been enough to consider the McCanns suspects. Yet they're the two people who the British police are not looking at.

[Window Cleaner]

Leicestershire Police re-interviewed the Tapas Seven. No idea whether those questions were asked, but it had already been decided that it was an abduction case at that point. In any normal case, the inconsistencies in the various accounts ( either from different people or the same people when asked at different times ) would have been enough to consider the McCanns suspects. Yet they're the two people who the British police are not looking at.

 

 

Going back to my local case I'm pretty sure that the PJ (Police Judiciaire) trapped the Mum with questions like those. As she was pregnant at the time they had to lay off her a bit (no doubt concerned over their public image) but afterwards when they actually started laying into her with awkward questions she tripped herself up as she produced conflictual statements about being in the park (which she actually wasn't anyway) and once the PJ have you on the ropes you won't get up again. I bet if the PJ got hold of Kate McCann they'd know all there is to know one way or the other.

[aintforever]

Leicestershire Police re-interviewed the Tapas Seven. No idea whether those questions were asked, but it had already been decided that it was an abduction case at that point. In any normal case, the inconsistencies in the various accounts ( either from different people or the same people when asked at different times ) would have been enough to consider the McCanns suspects. Yet they're the two people who the British police are not looking at.

 

How do you know who the police have looked at?

 

I'm no expert but i am pretty sure friends and relatives are the first people detectives look at in missing person/murder inquiries.

 

As for Kate McCann not answering questions, I expect she was just in a strop because the useless Portuguese Old Bill were giving her the third degree instead of looking for her daughter.

[Viking Warrior]

Interesting that the Met are now refering to a different time line and refered to another child being carried off towards the beahc area. The media have including the bbc that this is a startling revelation of these new witnesses

Sorry the following is a sky news rport dated Friday January 04, 2008

 

An Irish tourist who saw someone carrying a child in a blanket on the night Madeleine McCann disappeared insists that the mystery man was not Robert Murat.

 

Martin Smith, from Drogheda in Co Louth, was on holiday in Praia Da Luz with his family when they bumped into the man just before 10pm on May 3 last year.

 

The Smith family's suspicions were aroused because the man made no response when they asked if the barefoot child was asleep.

 

"He just put his head down and averted his eyes, which is very unusual in a tourist town at such a quiet time of the year," said Mr Smith.

 

Initially the Smith family thought nothing more of the encounter - and even the next day when the story broke they still didn't make the connection.

 

 

also the two efit pictures were done in 2009 by the detectives the Mccann's hired so they are not new only they were never released in the public domain

[ecuk268]

I feel for the family but like many feel

Not only did they leave Madeleine but also the twins

If this was in the UK and the people concerned were working class they would be inside and the press would hammer them

If this happened in Portugal and the people concerned were working class they would be inside and the press would hammer them

Could they not have eaten closer to their family

 

As a paper has a described them, sharp elbowed middle class, they also obviously know people very very well connected and this would have never continued on as long as it has.

 

I don't know about this holiday complex but many of them offer babysitting services.

[pap]

Going back to my local case I'm pretty sure that the PJ (Police Judiciaire) trapped the Mum with questions like those. As sghe was pregnant at the time they had to lay off her a bit (no doubt concerned over their public mage) but afterwards when they actually started laying into her with awkward questions she tripped herself up as she produced conflictual statements about being in the park (which she actually wasn't anyway) and once the PJ have you on the ropes you won't get up again. I bet if the PJ got hold of Kate McCann they'd know all there is to know one way or the other.

 

The PJ have collected everything you need to know about the case and released it five years ago. The continuing campaign just looks like an attempt to drown those reports out with concerned noise.

 

You can certainly argue that many of the questions were loaded. So what? That's what you'd expect of someone investigating the disappearance and possible death of a child. I'd expect British police to do exactly the same thing. It's uncomfortable for the person being asked the questions whether they're on the level or not.

 

The PJ already know what went down, but had to shut their investigation down under intense political pressure. Hell, the British OB already broadly know what happened. They've just decided to investigate a different case, one which is potentially imaginary, for largely political reasons. Chief investigator removed from role (and later sued when he released his book), chief of police resigned when the investigation was shut down and every member of the waiting staff that served the Tapas Seven were sacked within a year.

 

As I said, the dodgiest thing is the refusal to answer those questions. Sure, some are potentially incriminating, but others, like whether Madeleine was taking any medication or had any illness, are not "no comment" affairs. They could have actively assisted the investigation. The one question Kate McCann did answer came when she was asked about whether she knew her refusal to answer the 48 questions could affect the PJ's ability to find Madeleine. She said "if that's what the investigation wants to think".

 

C'mon. These were the early days. Can't speak for anyone else, but if it were me and I were innocent, I honestly wouldn't give a f**k about what the authorities thought of me, or whether I stood to do any bird as a result. I'd just want my daughter back. I am amazed that she kept schtum.

[Soton7]

100 REASONS WHY THE PARENTS BELONG IN JAIL

 

1. Did they use the babysitting service provided? NO

2. Did they use any listening devices? NO

3. Did they leave three children under 4 alone while going out drinking? YES

4. Did they do this every night? YES

5. Did they,under British law,endanger Maddie? YES

6. In the UK is significant harm a form of child abuse? YES

7. Is significant harm used by the UK courts in child abuse cases? YES

8. Does leaving the children as they did qualify under these rules ? YES

9. Did Kate sit writing timelines instead of searching for Maddie? YES

10. Are the frequent checks by the Tapas group challenged by other witnesses? YES

11. Was the bedroom withing sight of where they sat? NO

12, Were they within earshot? NO

13. Did anyone other than Tanner see any abductor? NO

14. Has anyone come up with a credible abductor? NO

15. Is there any evidence of an abduction? NO

16. Were the shutters in the room tampered with? NO

17. Did Kate say the shutters were tampered with? YES

18. Did Kate change her story to saying the door was unlocked? YES

19. Was the door unlocked on any other night? NO

20. Is there any physical evidence at all of a break in? NO

21. Is there any physical evidence of another party being in the room? NO

23. Were the McCann's told not to inform the media? YES

24. Were they told it might harm the chances of finding Maddie alive? YES

25. Were the media informed by a McCann family member? YES

26. Were specially trained British dogs brought in to search the apartment ? YES

27. Did they find anything? YES

28. Have these dogs been successful in over 200 cases? YES

29. Do sniffer dogs lie? NO

30. Do the specially trained dogs get confused by other smells? NO

31. Did they find cadaver(dead body) scent in the apartment? YES

32. Did they find blood? YES

33. Did they find cadaver scent behind the sofa? YES

34. On the child's toy? YES

35. In a cupboard in the room? YES

36. Did they find cadaver scent on Kate's clothes? YES

37. Did Kate explain this by saying she had examined dead bodies before holiday? YES

38. Is there any record of her doing so? NO

39. Has anyone come forward to say they saw her doing so? NO

40. Was the hire car rented after Maddie disappeared ? YES

41. Were tests done on DNA found in the car? YES

42. Did the dogs alert to the hire car? YES

43. Is a billion to one odds that it may be someone else's DNA? YES

44. Were the doors and boot left open to get rid of the smell in the car? YES

45. Did the parents explain it away as rotting meat? YES

46. Smelling due to taking rubbish to the tip in the hire car? YES

47. Smelling due to dirty nappies in the hire car? YES

48. Smell due to sea bass in the hire car? YES

49. Did the parents say the dogs were wrong? YES

50. Do you need tons of excuses if the dogs are just plain wrong? NO

51. Have the dogs ever been wrong? NO

52. Did Kate & Gerry flee Portugal? YES

53. Did they hire extradition lawyers? YES

54. Did the McCann's hire libel lawyers to gag anyone with a different view? YES

55. Did the government lend spin doctor Clarence Mitchell to the parents? YES

56. Dio spin doctors twist the truth for a favourable outcome? YES

57. Are they paid to do this? YES

58. Did the McCann's set up a fund in order to search for Maddie? YES

59. Did they use the money donated for anything other than searching? YES

60. Do the parents have a media monitoring unit? YES

61. Are there internet trolls helping the parents to quash getting at the truth? YES

62. Have the Portuguese police been portrayed as incompetent? YES

63. Did they look at all aspects of the case? YES

64. Did they conclude any abduction took place? NO

65. Did they conclude that Maddie was dead and the parents responsible? YES

66. Are there two British investigations into Maddie being missing? YES

67. Are they investigating ALL aspects of the case? NO

68. Have they been told by the government to focus on abduction only? YES

69. Have they come up with any evidence of an abduction? NO

70. Have they come up with any credible suspects? NO

71. Have they questioned the tapas group or parents over the case? NO

72. Have the parents made millions from Maddie being missing? YES

73. Did Kate write a book mentioning torn genitalia that the twins might read? YES

74. Did Gerry have his wallet stolen at Waterloo station as he claimed? NO

75. Does the CCTV footage from that day bear out his claims? NO

76. Did the Portuguese police ask British government for medical records? YES

77. Were they handed over? NO

78. Did they ask for bank statements? YES

79. Were they handed over ? NO

80. Did they ask for mobile phone records? YES

81. Were they handed over? NO

82. Have the media printed the McCann version of events? YES

83. Are the media intimidated by threats of libel? YES

84. Have the parents admitted they are responsible for Maddie's disappearance? NO

85. Have the parents faced any criminal charges to date? NO

86. No charges for manslaughter? NO

87. For neglect? NO

88. Did the McCann's say they would take a polygraph(lie detector test) ? YES

89. Did the McCann "people" contact Don Cargill head of polygraph studies?YES

90. Did the McCann's tell the world they would take one to prove innocence? YES

91. Have they taken one in the 2'000+ days since saying they would? NO

92. Did the parents impose a list of conditions for taking one? YES

93. Did Don Cargill say the list was "impossible to satisfy"? YES

94. Did Don Cargill state "They had no intention of taking one"? YES

95. Did Clarence Mitchell say they were innocent and did not need to do one? YES

96. IS Amaral on trial because he wrote a book stating the facts of the case? YES

97. Is it a proper account of the police investigation ? YES

98. Have the McCann's fought desperately to have this book banned? YES

99. Is it banned? NO

100. Is maddie missing because of the actions of the parents? YES

[Soton7]

The Smith family, from Ireland are returning to their apartment after a night out. As they walk, they pass a man carrying a child in his arms. The man averts his eyes from them to signal that he does not wish to speak.

 

Four months later, back in Ireland, the Smith family are watching TV. They see the McCanns return to the UK and observe Gerry McCann alight the aeroplane and walk across the tarmac with a sleeping Sean in his arms.

 

The father, Martin Smith, is shocked. He recognises the walking style and the way the child is being held against the shoulder.

 

It is exactly like the man he saw on the streets of Praia da Luz, four months earlier

 

The e fit shown in last nights Crimewatch appears to be Gerry...

 

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html

[buctootim]

There are all kinds of inconsistencies - even including two different timelines about what happened in the 1.5 hours before Madeleine disappeared. How difficult is that for 9 people to remember collectively something that happened only the previous day? http://www.mccannfiles.com/id261.html#tap1. Putting your children into a kids club for almost the whole day and then leaving them in the apartment alone from 8.30pm is not normal behaviour. Ive no idea what happened but as someone posted above - that group are withholding information about something.

Edited 15 October, 2013 by buctootim

[pap]

I don't know about this holiday complex but many of them offer babysitting services.

 

Theirs was no exception. The McCanns actually used the daytime service; Madeleine went there.

[Window Cleaner]

Theirs was no exception. The McCanns actually used the daytime service; Madeleine went there.

 

Most of them are pretty good actually, we used to put ours in the resort Kid's Clubs when they were young, they loved it, not sure that the same could be said of the staff though because with 10 or 12 like ours for 8 hours they all looked absolutely shot at the end of the day. If either of them had been abducted they'd have been back within half an hour having reduced the culprit to a drooling mass.

[OldNick]

I was amazed that she said on interview 'she had done nothing wrong'!!! She does come across as a cold person,in fact they both do.

[OldNick]

1. On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?

2. Did you search inside the bedroom wardrobe? (she replied that she wouldn’t answer)

3. (shown 2 photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?

4. Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (whose photo was shown to her) been tampered with? Did somebody go behind that sofa?

5. How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected your daughter Madeleine’s disappearance?

6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

7. Assuming Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins home alone to go to the ‘Tapas’ and raise the alarm? Because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment.

8. Why didn’t you ask the twins, at that moment, what had happened to their sister or why didn’t you ask them later on?

9. When you raised the alarm at the ‘Tapas’ what exactly did you say and what were your exact words?

10. What happened after you raised the alarm in the ‘Tapas’?

11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

12. Who contacted the authorities?

13. Who took place in the searches?

14. Did anyone outside of the group learn of Madeleine’s disappearance in those following minutes?

15. Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?

16. What does 'we let her down' mean?

17. Did Jane tell you that night that she’d seen a man with a child?

18. How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?

19. During the searches, with the police already there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?

20. Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?

21. Who did you phone after the occurrence?

22. Did you call Sky News?

23. Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?

24. Did you ask for a priest?

25. By what means did you divulge Madeleine’s features, by photographs or by any other means?

26. Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?

27. What was your behaviour that night?

28. Did you manage to sleep?

29. Before travelling to Portugal did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?

30. What was Madeleine’s behaviour like?

31. Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?

32. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister?

33. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?

34. As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?

35. What is your medical specialty?

36. Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?

37. Did you work every day?

38. At a certain point you stopped working, why?

39. Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?

40. Is it true that sometimes you despaired with your children’s behaviour and that left you feeling very uneasy?

41. Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?

42. In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?

43. In the case files you were SHOWN CANINE forensic testing films, where you can see them marking due to detection of the scent of human corpse and blood traces, also human, and only human, as well as all the comments of the technician in charge of them. After watching and after the marking of the scent of corpse in your bedroom beside the wardrobe and behind the sofa, pushed up against the sofa wall, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

44. When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

45. When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

46. When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

47. When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, whose analysis was carried out in a British laboratory, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

48. Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter’s disappearance?

Not answering some of those questions make her look guilty.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Why is there such a witch hunt against them? Could anybody have worked harder to find their daughter than them? It is a tragedy that all parents dread.

[hutch]

Why is there such a witch hunt against them? Could anybody have worked harder to find their daughter than them? It is a tragedy that all parents dread.

No it isn't. I can honestly say I've never given a minute's thought to how I would feel if anything happened to any of my children while I had left them alone and unattended.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

No it isn't. I can honestly say I've never given a minute's thought to how I would feel if anything happened to any of my children while I had left them alone and unattended.

 

They were on holiday within a few hundred yards of their apartment, others in their group were going back regularly to check, it felt quite contained they just got complacent and they have certainly been punished for that.

[aintforever]

Why is there such a witch hunt against them? Could anybody have worked harder to find their daughter than them? It is a tragedy that all parents dread.

 

It's just the hypocrisy of it all. If it had happened to a single mother from Shirley Towers who had left her 3 kids alone while she went to score some crack she would be hung drawn and quartered by the press and middle class ass-holes like the McCanns.

 

You can't blame the McCanns for trying to get the publicity though. The idea that they killed her is just for the nut jobs though, there is no way in a million years you would want all this publicity if you had murdered your own kid.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

No it isn't. I can honestly say I've never given a minute's thought to how I would feel if anything happened to any of my children while I had left them alone and unattended.

 

They were on holiday within a few hundred yards of their apartment, others in their group were going back regularly to check, it felt quite contained they just got complacent and they have certainly been punished for that.

[View From The Top]

They were on holiday within a few hundred yards of their apartment, others in their group were going back regularly to check, it felt quite contained they just got complacent and they have certainly been punished for that.

 

I would never dream of leaving my 3 alone whilst I went for a meal and drinks and I don't know any parent worthy of that title who would.

[saint lard]

I would not dream of leaving my 7yr old son alone in my own house let alone in a holiday complex for any length of time.

irresponsable parenting can lead to tragedy....they were irresponsable.

social services would be banging down my door if it was found that I left an infant to defend for themselves.

[Window Cleaner]

They were on holiday within a few hundred yards of their apartment, others in their group were going back regularly to check, it felt quite contained they just got complacent and they have certainly been punished for that.

 

doesn't work like that I'm afraid. You either stay at home or get kidsitters in even if it's only across the street..Families like the McCanns could easily afford a live in Nanny or an Au Pair, if you want to carry on your social life with 3 infants it's what you do.

Edited 15 October, 2013 by Window Cleaner

[Wurzel]

Why is there such a witch hunt against them? Could anybody have worked harder to find their daughter than them? It is a tragedy that all parents dread.

 

Well I know if it had been my daughter I'd have been out there searching as soon as I realised she was missing, not stayed in the apartment for hours whilst others searched.

[aintforever]

They were on holiday within a few hundred yards of their apartment, others in their group were going back regularly to check, it felt quite contained they just got complacent and they have certainly been punished for that.

 

I had a degree of sympathy for them until I baby sat for my brothers 3 kids the other day who are a similar age. F*ck me you can't take your eyes of the little sods for 5 mins. Turn your back for a moment and one is trying to wear a lampshade while the other two are seeing what they can stick in the DVD player.

 

They left them alone, in a unlocked ground floor apartment that was on a public road not even contained within the complex. It was not far away but it was out of sight and ear shot. Usually being in an apartment you would be reasonably safe but I expect Maddie woke up and started shouting for her mum or went to the window.

[pap]

It's just the hypocrisy of it all. If it had happened to a single mother from Shirley Towers who had left her 3 kids alone while she went to score some crack she would be hung drawn and quartered by the press and middle class ass-holes like the McCanns.

 

You can't blame the McCanns for trying to get the publicity though. The idea that they killed her is just for the nut jobs though, there is no way in a million years you would want all this publicity if you had murdered your own kid.

 

Well done, Verbal.

 

Another idiot taking the argument on the extreme terms you set.

[aintforever]

Well done, Verbal.

 

Another idiot taking the argument on the extreme terms you set.

 

You seriously think they killed their own daughter then decided to carry out a protracted campaign to make it the most high profile, most investigated missing persons enquiry in history?

 

Seriously?

[pap]

You seriously think they killed their own daughter then decided to carry out a protracted campaign to make it the most high profile, most investigated missing persons enquiry in history?

 

Seriously?

 

Read the thread. Fairly clear what I'm considering. Don't expect me to regurgitate my argument for your sake alone.

[Wurzel]

Why is there such a witch hunt against them? Could anybody have worked harder to find their daughter than them? It is a tragedy that all parents dread.

 

Well I know if it had been my daughter I'd have been out there searching as soon as I realised she was missing, not stayed in the apartment for hours whilst others searched.

[aintforever]

Read the thread. Fairly clear what I'm considering. Don't expect me to regurgitate my argument for your sake alone.

 

You're a f*cking fruit loop if you think someone who killed their own kid would do what the McCanns have been doing (hiring detectives, getting the MET involved, live appeals on Crimewatch etc etc). If they did do it there WILL be evidence out there somewhere that would convict them - the very last thing they would do is keep putting the whole thing in the spotlight.

[pap]

You're a f*cking fruit loop if you think someone who killed their own kid would do what the McCanns have been doing (hiring detectives, getting the MET involved, live appeals on Crimewatch etc etc). If they did do it there WILL be evidence out there somewhere that would convict them - the very last thing they would do is keep putting the whole thing in the spotlight.

 

Not if they're not being investigated for the crime, and the only reason that they're not being investigated for a crime is that they keep on appearing on TV in the guise of concerned parents.

 

I expect the PJ are "fruit loops" as well, as is this Former Prosecutor.

 

 

She has some interesting comments about the timing of this.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

I can honestly say that I might have, with a group of friends when the children were asleep have gone out for a pizza only fifty or sixty yards away if I had become complacent and the others were doing it - although it would have been very border line. Like the McCann's I would have checked regularly but the one thing I would have not done is left the apartment unlocked.

[Special K]

I liked the bit where Kate McCann said "I've done nothing wrong here".

 

 

It did seem like an exercise in self justification more than an appeal for finding the poor little mite. Their behaviour does seem quite strange and has done from the start. I'd have fallen apart myself, and whilst i know it's risky judging others actions, my guess is that 99% of parents would have been overwhelmed with, and displayed, raw emotion. All very odd.

[Window Cleaner]

I can honestly say that I might have, with a group of friends when the children were asleep have gone out for a pizza only fifty or sixty yards away if I had become complacent and the others were doing it - although it would have been very border line. Like the McCann's I would have checked regularly but the one thing I would have not done is left the apartment unlocked.

 

Then you are or will be a bad parent, do not worry you are or won't be alone. Parenting is a full time job, if you don't have the time to do it yourself then build a structure around you that does, grandparents, baby-sitters whatever.

[Bearsy]

It did seem like an exercise in self justification more than an appeal for finding the poor little mite. Their behaviour does seem quite strange and has done from the start. I'd have fallen apart myself, and whilst i know it's risky judging others actions, my guess is that 99% of parents would have been overwhelmed with, and displayed, raw emotion. All very odd.

 

yeah i don't find her v.believable either, you can see why the BJs was suspicious of her. They have to remember tho, the BJs, that psychopaths can be victim of child abduction just like anyone else.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Then you are or will be a bad parent, do not worry you are or won't be alone. Parenting is a full time job, if you don't have the time to do it yourself then build a structure around you that does, grandparents, baby-sitters whatever.

 

Well in fairness if you ask my children they will tell you that I am a very good parent. What I am saying is that you cannot judge the McCanns as easily as that.

[aintforever]

Not if they're not being investigated for the crime, and the only reason that they're not being investigated for a crime is that they keep on appearing on TV in the guise of concerned parents.

 

Do you really think detectives investigating the crime will give the slightest thought as to what's been said on TV?