The Met Police and Madeline Mccann

[Viking Warrior]

Strange thought that one Grey Crab . Maybe it is true. After all When I had leterally just arrived at Aberdeen airport from heathrow , I went for a Pee and next minute My self and one other passenger are given a thourogh search and accused of smoking in the toilets. Two police in side the toilets and three outside. That was only a couple of months back. May be you have a case and that is another reason I have a lack of respect for the police.

[JackFrost]

His team – the 37-strong Operation Grange

 

team of 37 officers...!!!

 

Is the 37 strong team all police officers, or does that number include interpreters etc.? If it is indeed 37 officers, to give you an idea that's the equivalent of taking 1 officer each from half of the parliamentary constituencies in London.

 

Anyway the media are obsessed with the case because the McCanns can afford to keep it in the public eye unlike 99% of parents whose kids go missing.

 

It's entirely possible Madeleine is still alive but sadly I don't think she'll ever be found, I suspect she was trafficked, sold and brought up with a new identity, and it's entirely possible she'll live her life without ever knowing who she really is.

[bridge too far]

Is the 37 strong team all police officers, or does that number include interpreters etc.? If it is indeed 37 officers, to give you an idea that's the equivalent of taking 1 officer each from half of the parliamentary constituencies in London.

 

Anyway the media are obsessed with the case because the McCanns can afford to keep it in the public eye unlike 99% of parents whose kids go missing.

It's entirely possible Madeleine is still alive but sadly I don't think she'll ever be found, I suspect she was trafficked, sold and brought up with a new identity, and it's entirely possible she'll live her life without ever knowing who she really is.

 

There's a big gulf between the publicity the McCanns constantly engender and the very little publicity afforded to the parents of the little boy who disappeared in Greece years ago and, closer to home, the little girl from Gosport who disappeared from a military base in Germany 30 odd years ago.

[ottery st mary]

Met Police are not being paid by McCanns..so their wealth is not relevant.

 

The whole new investigation is very strange......

[Special K]

Met Police are not being paid by McCanns..so their wealth is not relevant.

 

The whole new investigation is very strange......

 

Not at all. The McCanns asked the Govnt to authorise the Met to open a fresh investigation. No 10 agreed to let the Met decide. This is the latest disclosure from the Met on their findings, which has prompted them to continue their inquiry. Nothing strange there.

[Viking Warrior]

I see the sky news team including Anne diamond are saying that a met police expert has said that they believe a people trafficking gang are the most likely reason Madeleine disappeared . Also the met can only interview folk in Portugal if they have the Portuguese police along side them .

I wish the so called experts would crawl back into their rat holes . They are no more an expert on what happened than you I are

[ottery st mary]

Not at all. The McCanns asked the Govnt to authorise the Met to open a fresh investigation. No 10 agreed to let the Met decide. This is the latest disclosure from the Met on their findings, which has prompted them to continue their inquiry. Nothing strange there.

 

Special K

 

Everything is very strange about this Political directive on behalf of Kate and Gerry.....

 

The Met Police have done as they were told..

 

STRANGE in every sense of the word.....That the Government should direct the Met Police to do so...after an initial enquiry with no apparent discernible leads.. other than to round up all paedophiles.

 

Strange to me ......As I see a fishing exercise around Portugal , Spain and Europe ..allegedly for the purpose of tracing and interviewing some 30 or more paedo suspects believed to have been in or around Portugal/Spain at the relevant times.

 

Until either the child or a body is found...NO ONE... close to the the victim.. can be excluded from the list of suspects....REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL INTERFERENCE.

 

Let us all hope that they have first class information that the answer to this enquiry does lay within the peado fraternity.......

 

From what I have seen so far...in my opinion..... Mr Redwood and his team have no more idea than the Portuguese investigating team.

 

But...It is my belief....... that the statement that Police could exclude Gerry,Kate and their group of friends as suspects.......at such an early stage of their own enquiry...is premature

 

AND

 

IS very strange...I have never seen this happen in any other criminal investigation...There are , as we know, at least 195 (see previously mentioned Portuguese list) unanswered questions.

 

I am not convinced that the Met have answered same...before going off on their fishing expedition.

 

I really hope and pray that Maddie is found alive...but my instinct and my own knowledge gained from closely following the enquiry.......tells me the Portuguese Police were on the right lines.

 

I am intrigued as to why News International pushed so hard for a review of this case by Scotland Yard.....Miss Rebekah Brooks at the Leveson inquiry... ( McCanns) May 11th 2012

 

Did Miss Brooks threaten David Cameron regarding this matter.......

 

 

Yes...All very strange..

[Verbal]

WHY HAVE THEY RECEIVED ALL THIS SUPPORT AND ATTENTION FROM ROYAL FAMILY,PRIME MINISTERS, POLITICIANS, SERVICES and NOW The Metropolitan Police........FREE MASONS AND CATHOLIC GUILD.....Just realised most are Masons!!!

 

pap , myself and many of my friends and ex colleagues have a reasonable opinion...

 

Just noticed this piece of bizarro. So are you accusing the McCanns of being Masons or Catholic Guilders? Yes or no.

 

And name names of the others you accuse of being Masons. You seem so certain of their identity, so cough them up.

 

Alternatively, ask yourself whether your paranoid view of the world isn't making you say some embarrassingly foolish things about an awful event.

[ottery st mary]

Just noticed this piece of bizarro. So are you accusing the McCanns of being Masons or Catholic Guilders? Yes or no.

 

And name names of the others you accuse of being Masons. You seem so certain of their identity, so cough them up.

 

Alternatively, ask yourself whether your paranoid view of the world isn't making you say some embarrassingly foolish things about an awful event.

 

 

Now then, now then.......that is a very strange post Verbal:rolleyes:

[pap]

Just noticed this piece of bizarro. So are you accusing the McCanns of being Masons or Catholic Guilders? Yes or no.

 

And name names of the others you accuse of being Masons. You seem so certain of their identity, so cough them up.

 

Alternatively, ask yourself whether your paranoid view of the world isn't making you say some embarrassingly foolish things about an awful event.

 

I happen to enjoy ottery st mary's posts. He has the courage to speculate on things that interest me, but wouldn't necessarily be something I pushed myself, largely because this sort of thing happens. "Prove everything or shut up!, or the old favourite, "how dare you question such a tragic event?". I paraphrase, of course.

 

Referring to the oft-repeated "how dare you?/what sort of person are you?" remarks you make, you seem to have a lot of sacred cows. I would hope that the professionals who deal with tragic events as part of their remit are able to maintain greater emotional distance from the events than they are investigating than you are. In this instance, it seems to be your assertion that the McCanns had nothing to do with the disappearance of their daughter.

 

You asked earlier what had been invalidly excluded. Take a look at the 135 points on that list; I've previewed them and I'll give you a heads up. There are less than 135. The author is a little cheeky in numbering some items which are actually his or her own questions, especially in the MISC section. Still, it provides a lot of food for thought, as do a lot of the events at the time, such as Kate McCann failing to answer 48 questions put to her by the Portuguese authorities. You get me on a technicality there; Kate McCann didn't actually give any evidence, so it cannot be excluded.

 

What definitely was excluded was the cadaver and blood dog evidence.

 

[alpine_saint]

I welcome a full investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, provided that investigation doesn't assume that Kate and Gerry had nothing to do with it. I've never really bought their story from the stuff they choose to show on TV. I suspect no sensible parent will. Their defence is that they left their kids alone, and someone abducted one of them. On that level alone, I find it baffling. I've left my kids in the house, post-13, while I've nipped to the shop, etc. To leave babies alone in a foreign country? Madness.

 

Even if they had nothing to do with their daughter's disappearance, they are guilty of being hugely irresponsible and I don't get why they have so much airtime given their circumstances. It's a sad fact of life that kids go missing far too often. The McCanns are distinct in their longevity. There's very much an element of "thou doth protest too much" about the whole affair. I think they've been protected from on high because of the international nature of the case ( very reminiscent of the Louise Woodward case in that respect ). The Portuguese have unfailingly been presented as incompetent and I wonder how things might have turned out if similar events had played out in a UK CentreParcs instead of the Algarve.

 

Yep. Completely agree.

 

I occasionally find myself dwelling on what happened to the poor little mite and if she is/was suffering, and then always feel exceptionally angry about how she was so badly let down by her parents, who have always come across as cold and calculating to me.

 

However I've never cared for the attitude of the Portugese authorities to what happened, either.

[Viking Warrior]

Anyone kniw if the met have uncovered any new info on missing Madeleine . Since they all went to Portugal some while back . They made enough noise about going there . I hope their trip was worthwhile .

[ottery st mary]

Just noticed this piece of bizarro. So are you accusing the McCanns of being Masons or Catholic Guilders? Yes or no.

 

And name names of the others you accuse of being Masons. You seem so certain of their identity, so cough them up.

 

Alternatively, ask yourself whether your paranoid view of the world isn't making you say some embarrassingly foolish things about an awful event.

 

 

Verbal.....

 

As I said on the 7.7.13 post....VERY STRANGE POST:rolleyes:

 

I am still working on the list of Masons and Catholic guild members you asked for regarding my post on Gerry McCann , Royalty,Politicians, Celebrities,Police Officers , Private Investigators etc

 

Some difficulty as some chaps are members of both:) and some strange results during the task you set me....

 

Supply your name and address and I will forward completed list direct to you or to any place you meet others at;)

 

As before ..I still hope for the best for MADDIE.....but believe we will never receive good news.

 

As I expected the Met enquiry regarding the initial statement of 30 odd targets would forever grow....and forever appear active until the Goverment calls the Met off..

 

Still wish Mr Redwood and his crew the very best but still hoping that sense prevails or they hit lucky and interview..again... family, associates/friends from that holiday and previous holidays.

 

 

Agreed an awful event........In my view a tragic event for Maddie in particular.

 

Embarrassed regarding what my viewpoint and observation on the investigation etc....not at all.

 

I have always asked for the truth...especially from the McCanns/and their group...........I would never expect to get that from politicians and some of the other groups I mentioned above.

Edited 3 August, 2013 by ottery st mary

[Badger]

I wonder how long it will be before Jerry & Kate McCann are taking up a seat alongside Doreen Lawrence in the House of Lords as perpetual victims of a crime, the media et al at Milliband's invitation.

[JoeShmoe]

I wonder how long it will be before Jerry & Kate McCann are taking up a seat alongside Doreen Lawrence in the House of Lords as perpetual victims of a crime, the media et al at Milliband's invitation.

 

How quickly people have forgotten how they left their young kids on their own in a hotel apartment while they went for dinner with their mates

 

What happened was tragic but that's still something 99% of parents wouldn't do

[EastleighSoulBoy]

How quickly people have forgotten how they left their young kids on their own in a hotel apartment while they went for dinner with their mates

 

What happened was tragic but that's still something 99% of parents wouldn't do

 

And if it had been some chav type smackhead parents from some sinkhole estate they would have been charged, tried and jailed by now.

[um pahars]

How quickly people have forgotten how they left their young kids on their own in a hotel apartment while they went for dinner with their mates

 

What happened was tragic but that's still something 99% of parents wouldn't do

 

As a first time parent of less than a year, I'm struggling to see how they could have left those kids alone and unattended. I never want to smother my little un, but the thought of leaving her in a room/apartment at that age, while I go off for a couple of hours is some thing I just couldnt contemplate.

[Viking Warrior]

I see the met police are now doing various sound bites re the forthcoming crime watch appeal on the BBC

 

Different time lines are being mentioned As to when she actually went missing .

Why the different time lines have the mcanns suddenly remembered it might have been earlier or later that they checked on her

 

But more importantly why can't the police go on tv now a crime watch special instead of giving little sound bytes as if it was a major television drama . Surely if they want interview alleged suspects they wouldn't want to be announcing it through the media . Besides any suspects could well have gone to ground .

[Saint-scooby]

Ok so the MET get to a point in their work when "OH" we have two new suspects, these being the parents then what, or will it get to that situation

 

 

 

http://truthformadeleine.com/

[Window Cleaner]

We had a similar case round here a while back, Fiona aged 5, Mum said she'd gone missing in a park,national search etc and then 4 months later they admitted that she was dead, slapped by the step-dad or the mum, they can't make up their minds, trouble is the junkie couple can't remember exactly where they buried her. Obviously a pair of idiots but if they'd kept stum like a smart couple might well have done the mystery would go on for ever.

[NickG]

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[Verbal]

We had a similar case round here a while back, Fiona aged 5, Mum said she'd gone missing in a park,national search etc and then 4 months later they admitted that she was dead, slapped by the step-dad or the mum, they can't make up their minds, trouble is the junkie couple can't remember exactly where they buried her. Obviously a pair of idiots but if they'd kept stum like a smart couple might well have done the mystery would go on for ever.

 

The McCann case is "similar" to parents who murdered their children?

 

If you're implying that the McCanns murdered their children, please say so. If not, where are the "similarities"?

[buctootim]

Seems to me to be a waste of resources that could be used on cases where there is a more realistic chance of solving the crime - or even child protection services in the UK. The police have released two efits based on two different witnesses recollections supposedly of the same man - but they dont even look vaguely alike. One looks like Piers Morgan the other at totally different face shape. Its obvious from the descriptions the witnesses either didn't really see or don't really remember - 20 to 40 years old of medium height and medium build - could be almost anybody, and the police don't even know if the person is key or not not anyway. seem like gesture policing to go with gesture politics.

 

Edited 14 October, 2013 by buctootim

[ottery st mary]

A strange thing happened to me this morning:rolleyes:

 

I looked at the E-Fit and thought it was Mr McCann......

 

Has someone got mixed up here?

[Viking Warrior]

The one on the left looks very vaguely like Paul McKenna and they other one looks like poster on Ugly site

[Viking Warrior]

I see where your coming from ottery there is a similarity to the person you allude to

[Pugwash]

I concur with Ottery that one does look like Mr McCann. However, e-fits made SIX YEARS after the event? How on earth can peoples' memories be that accurate after so long?

 

Calling Jack Frost - can he please add his experience to this discussion.

[Pugwash]

I concur with Ottery that one does look like Mr McCann. However, e-fits made SIX YEARS after the event? How on earth can peoples' memories be that accurate after so long?

 

Calling Jack Frost - can he please add his experience to this discussion.

[pap]

The McCann case is "similar" to parents who murdered their children?

 

If you're implying that the McCanns murdered their children, please say so. If not, where are the "similarities"?

 

Good luck skating on this ice.

 

Are you only interested in demanding proof to a judicial standard from posters on a football forum, or will you choose to address the cadaver dog video? Don't blame you if not. The police didn't bother either, even though it was one of their own presenting it. Would have been so much easier to dismiss if it had been the "bumbling" Portuguese rozzers that had presented it, eh?

[Window Cleaner]

Good luck skating on this ice.

 

Are you only interested in demanding proof to a judicial standard from posters on a football forum, or will you choose to address the cadaver dog video? Don't blame you if not. The police didn't bother either, even though it was one of their own presenting it. Would have been so much easier to dismiss if it had been the "bumbling" Portuguese rozzers that had presented it, eh?

 

Perhaps similar was a clumsy word to use. The case at Clermont Ferrand has all the makings of the McCann case at first, although the difference between a tired mum nodding off in a park and a blatant abandon of 3 small children to go and eat out

are not so similar. If the mother had held her nerve though we'd still all be looking for Fiona in 10 years time . All the public weeping,wailing and asking for aid from all quarters were exactly the same.The child wasn't murdered she apparently died from the results a domestic dispute but until they actually find the cadavre no-one can confirm that. No doubt the mother and step-father intended to replicate the McCanns case though. They held up for 4 months and everybody believed them apart form the odd "mauvaise langue" but in the end the mother was not sufficiently intelligent to carry it off.

Edited 14 October, 2013 by Window Cleaner

[Lord Duckhunter]

In tonights crime watch Kate says "we're not the ones who have done something wrong here". I'm sorry love but you have. As sorry as I feel for them, and it must be heartbreaking, the simple truth is they left an innocent child on its own. This is not one of those " this could have happened to anyone " crimes. It could of only have happened to irresponsible parents who put their social life above the well being of their children. Had it been a chav who nipped up the shop for a packet of fags, they'd have faced the full force of the British moral police and no doubt had the other children taken away. The BBC and other organisations seem incapable of covering this objectively.

 

I've brought up 4 kids and not only would we not dream of leaving any of them like they did, do not know one of the dozens of families we've met over the years would do the same. Gone are the days when kids sat in the car with a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps, you can find hundreds of places where you can take them in with you, particularly in a holiday resort. This lack of acceptance of any blame is nauseating as is the fawning from politicians and media outlets. The simple fact is the people to blame for this are the evil bastards or bastard who took her and the selfish irresponsible McCann's.

[aintforever]

A strange thing happened to me this morning:rolleyes:

 

I looked at the E-Fit and thought it was Mr McCann......

 

Has someone got mixed up here?

 

Same here, it looks exactly like him.

 

Looks like the Met are going to waste alot of time and money chasing down a suspect they believed to be in the area, who was obviously in the area because it was her dad.

[hypochondriac]

Same here, it looks exactly like him.

 

Looks like the Met are going to waste alot of time and money chasing down a suspect they believed to be in the area, who was obviously in the area because it was her dad.

 

Do you not think the authorities have considered that her parents were suspects then?

[Gemmel]

It scares me reading some of the responses on here................ does anyone really think the mcanns murdered thier daughter???????????

 

I can excuse pap, as he is a nutter, but really

[bridge too far]

It scares me reading some of the responses on here................ does anyone really think the mcanns murdered thier daughter???????????

 

I can excuse pap, as he is a nutter, but really

 

I don't think they murdered their daughter but, years ago, it did cross my mind that maybe, as doctors, they had access to sedatives that they might have given her to ensure that they could go out without her waking and that it went badly wrong.

[Window Cleaner]

I don't think they murdered their daughter but, years ago, it did cross my mind that maybe, as doctors, they had access to sedatives that they might have given her to ensure that they could go out without her waking and that it went badly wrong.

 

Was that not what the Portuguese copper put forward ?

[Northernsaint]

firstly it's a disgrace in parenting I would never leave my child alone. The fact they are high flyers means that the media portray them to be do gooders but they showed neglect end of story.

 

It's also very possible the mother knows nothing about it.

 

It could have been Gerry's turn first to check on the kids and an accident of sorts could have happened. Kate then goes up and she's gone.

 

Gerry had possibly moved the body by that time. This could explain the gap in times. It's very possible Kate then thought where the hell is Gerry? Went to look for him and they missed each other.

 

All imo of course and none of it to be misinterpreted as fact.

 

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[Batman]

how many people would leave a 3 year old in a strange house and go round their mates for dinner

 

answer, no one would

why would anyone do such a crazy thing on holiday

[ottery st mary]

I believe that the death was accidental in some shape or form...

 

Sedatives etc re sleep...went wrong OR accidental fall etc....

 

Never thought they killed their own child. Never heard of anyone stating that they murdered their own child....

 

Gerry McCann states he went to check up at 9.20pm....

 

Lady Tanner (part of tapas 7) is witness to a male person carrying what appeared to be a child from flat?..at 9.25pm.

 

Kate Mc Cann went to flat at 10pm and found child missing.

 

There are 5/6 other E-Fit of suspicious chaps in and around apartments....these being released over the early part of the investigation.

 

I assume Lady Tanner gives good description of male leaving apartment with child?

 

Hence my ?????? re E-Fit with similar likeness to Gerry....Especially if he was in or around apartment still at 9.25pm..

 

Still puzzled how Police are looking at all these (40/50) peado suspects and all the mobile phones in and around the area at the relevant times.

 

AND now these 2 E-Fits and no mention of all the other E-Fits........all coming together with crime watch in the middle of the Civil court case.

 

Kate wants her day in court after previously refusing to answer Police questions when.....I suggest......

 

it would have be in her interests to get all the questioning out of the way to assist the search for Maddie and any suspects at the time..

 

verbal.........SAY what you like.........I find it all VERY STRANGE....

 

 

Mr Gerry Mc Cann has some really big mates in high places.........VERY STRANGE.

Edited 14 October, 2013 by ottery st mary

[aintforever]

If Mr McCann did do it then it would be VERY VERY STRANGE for him to get a team from the British Police to investigate it at this stage when he has got away with it.

 

I buy the idea that at the time he would act the concerned father to try and put the police off the scent but to carry on digging now makes no sense at all.

[buctootim]

how many people would leave a 3 year old in a strange house and go round their mates for dinner

 

answer, no one would

why would anyone do such a crazy thing on holiday

 

Not even just a three year old - there were 18 month old twins as well. Nobody in their right mind would do that - not because you think they'd be abducted but in case they wake and are scared / wander out into the road / stick metal object in the power socket / burn themselves with hot water / wet their beds or any one of the 100 other reasons people don't leave small children alone - especially for such a nondescript reason as dinner with your mates

[Batman]

if the parents have been chazza and ky from shirley warrent. then they would have been hounded out as disgusting parents.

UK class system at its finest with the mccanns

[Viking Warrior]

Gemmel

 

It's is a question that we will never know whether they did or are totally innocent . So many unanswered questions . The mcanns were wrong to leave their children alone

 

If they were so remorseful why don't they actually admit that they were wrong to leave them alone.

 

If it's a paedo ring or child kidnappers as has been suggested why didn't they take the two boys as well . Thankfully they didn't

[pap]

It scares me reading some of the responses on here................ does anyone really think the mcanns murdered thier daughter???????????

 

I can excuse pap, as he is a nutter, but really

 

I've never said that Madeleine was murdered by her parents. Well done, Verbal's intended ploy of making it about the extreme, burrowed right into your mind and stuck there. Well done, Verbal, I say.

 

If it had happened here, I'm sure the McCanns would have been more robustly investigated by the British authorities. It happened abroad, had international attention and could have given the rest of the world a nice new label to assign to us. Family Guy references the Louise Woodward case when Stewie shouts "Shake me! Shake me like a British nanny!" when tangling with Lois. Back at the time, Louise Woodward was a huge story. Britain, by association with its citizens' behaviour in the US, was in the dock.

 

The McCann case is much more serious. I don't think that they murdered their child, but I think they could have been more directly responsible for her disappearance than they claim, i.e. mere inexplicable neglect. Sedatives have been suggested as an explanation for Madeleine's disappearance. If that's the case, it's not murder; no intent to kill. As btf points out, something could have gone very badly wrong. An accident with some parental culpability seems like a valid avenue of investigation.

 

If that were the case, how would the McCanns be perceived in this affair? Arrogant cheap Brits who drugged their kids instead of paying for a sitter? Out of control Brits who caused an accident through a loss of temper? The case had international profile and could have seriously damaged British reputation if the McCanns bore some responsibility for the actual death of their own child. The continuing and decade long campaign would actually be a calculated campaign, aimed at the gradual transformation of the McCanns from being neglectful parents and arguaidos into concerned parents through the process of repeating the mantra, that they care about their daughter, believe she is still alive, and that everyone should keep looking.

 

You do not have to be a murderer to be directly responsible for another's death, or we wouldn't bother with manslaughter. If the McCanns were ever found to be directly responsible for their daughter's death, the sh!t would hit the fan, and sadly, Madeleine's fate would be a secondary consideration. People would focus on the decade afterward and all the things they said, all the time they wasted and all the money they raised from the public. They would be utterly vilified. I've never seen any other major suspects be able to protest their innocence on television with such regularity and for quite so long a time.

 

Give it enough time and people will forget they were ever suspects in Madeleine's disappearance. Some sooner than others, it'd seem.

Edited 14 October, 2013 by pap

[hypochondriac]

I've never said that Madeleine was murdered by her parents. Well done, Verbal's intended ploy of making it about the extreme, burrowed right into your mind and stuck there. Well done, Verbal, I say.

 

If it had happened here, I'm sure the McCanns would have been more robustly investigated by the British authorities. It happened abroad, had international attention and could have given the rest of the world a nice new label to assign to us. Family Guy references the Louise Woodward case when Stewie shouts "Shake me! Shake me like a British nanny!" when tangling with Lois. Back at the time, Louise Woodward was a huge story. Britain, by association with its citizens' behaviour in the US, was in the dock.

 

The McCann case is much more serious. I don't think that they murdered their child, but I think they could have been more directly responsible for her disappearance than they claim, i.e. mere inexplicable neglect. Sedatives have been suggested as an explanation for Madeleine's disappearance. If that's the case, it's not murder; no intent to kill. As btf points out, something could have gone very badly wrong. An accident with some parental culpability seems like a valid avenue of investigation.

 

If that were the case, how would the McCanns be perceived in this affair? Arrogant cheap Brits who drugged their kids instead of paying for a sitter? Out of control Brits who caused an accident through a loss of temper? The case had international profile and could have seriously damaged British reputation if the McCanns bore some responsibility for the actual death of their own child. The continuing and decade long campaign would actually be a calculated campaign, aimed at the gradual transformation of the McCanns from being neglectful parents and arguaidos into concerned parents through the process of repeating the mantra, that they care about their daughter, believe she is still alive, and that everyone should keep looking.

 

You do not have to be a murderer to be directly responsible for another's death, or we wouldn't bother with manslaughter. If the McCanns were ever found to be directly responsible for their daughter's death, the sh!t would hit the fan, and sadly, Madeleine's fate would be a secondary consideration. People would focus on the decade afterward and all the things they said, all the time they wasted and all the money they raised from the public. They would be utterly vilified. I've never seen any other major suspects be able to protest their innocence on television with such regularity and for quite so long a time.

 

Give it enough time and people will forget they were ever suspects in Madeleine's disappearance. Some sooner than others, it'd seem.

 

Are they? I thought they were acquitted?

[pap]

Are they? I thought they were acquitted?

 

What court did they ever appear in?

[Minsk]

In tonights crime watch Kate says "we're not the ones who have done something wrong here". I'm sorry love but you have. As sorry as I feel for them, and it must be heartbreaking, the simple truth is they left an innocent child on its own. This is not one of those " this could have happened to anyone " crimes. It could of only have happened to irresponsible parents who put their social life above the well being of their children. Had it been a chav who nipped up the shop for a packet of fags, they'd have faced the full force of the British moral police and no doubt had the other children taken away. The BBC and other organisations seem incapable of covering this objectively.

 

I've brought up 4 kids and not only would we not dream of leaving any of them like they did, do not know one of the dozens of families we've met over the years would do the same. Gone are the days when kids sat in the car with a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps, you can find hundreds of places where you can take them in with you, particularly in a holiday resort. This lack of acceptance of any blame is nauseating as is the fawning from politicians and media outlets. The simple fact is the people to blame for this are the evil bastards or bastard who took her and the selfish irresponsible McCann's.

 

Spot on!!

[Viking Warrior]

Sorry when the BBC said they had been working with the police for several months . I thought this was a met police enquiry .

More questions than answers . Charity workers , burglars etc

 

If all these folk were lurking about the apartments during the time of any abduction . How come none of those who were at the tapas bar with the mcanns and checking their kids didn't mention this previously ?

[hypochondriac]

What court did they ever appear in?

 

In whose eyes do they continue to be major suspects?

[hutch]

My cards on the table say that:

 

a) They did not murder their daughter

 

b) They are not telling the whole truth about what happened

 

c) They are responsible for their daughter's death