Viking Warrior Posted 30 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 30 October, 2013 You just couldnt make this story up could you New Maddie Suspect: Amazing twist in investigation as cops hunt for suspect with a grudge The News of the World Lucy Panton, Crime editor 30 September 2007 This was reported back in 2007. Would the police not have interviewd this guy at some time before he died and why did he mysteriously die on a tractor Wheres pap when you need a conspiracy theory. Prince Charles is implicated but not involved, maybe the dead guy was ex SAS and involved in the alleged incident in that paris underpass some years ago. Im Joking Seriously though, this latest media release ridiculous . They cant release the name of the guy due to ongoing legal battles with the McCanns Shame the News of the World was closed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 30 October, 2013 Share Posted 30 October, 2013 (edited) So the News of The World story is 30 September 2007...everyone jumped on this so as to find Maddie..no doubt with that info.. MCcANN INVESTIGATORS...aware of this info..then and at later date...due to wanting to find Maddie. Portugese investigators aware of this info then and now re visited after Met Police investigation. Now The Mirror give the same story...in 2013....Maid then and now a male suspect Will be interesting to see the outcome of the new Police investigation. Civil court case to continue. All very strange to say the least...Especially with Porto Police meant to have come up with this new lead? They were saying a maid back then....a Lady but no talk of female E-FITS then or now..... Edited 30 October, 2013 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 30 October, 2013 Share Posted 30 October, 2013 (edited) New Maddie Suspect: Amazing twist in investigation as cops hunt for suspect with a grudge The News of the World Lucy Panton, Crime editor 30 September 2007 * Sacked worker in 'revenge plot' * Anonymous tip to Prince Charles BRITISH cops launched an urgent hunt for a new suspect in the Maddie McCann case-after an astonishing tip-off from the PRINCE OF WALES. An anonymous email sent to the prince's official website insists three-year old Madeleine was kidnapped from the Mark Warner Ocean Club holiday resort in Portugal by a disgruntled ex-employee. The informant named a maid who was sacked from the apartment complex in Praia da Luz and claimed she snatched the child in a crazed revenge plot. British police are now liaising with Portuguese detectives over the dramatic new twist which is revealed 150 days after Maddie vanished. News of World reported Maid as suspect in 2007.. Mirror and Mail with similar storyline but a man who worked there but since died as a result of tractor accident... How many other disgruntled workers left the complex.......The Star and Sunday People want their exclusive. Edited 30 October, 2013 by ottery st mary added Mail re Mirror story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 30 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 30 October, 2013 Just googled the author of the NOTW story One Miss Lucy Panton I thought i recognised the name Sun head of news Chris Pharo, former crime editor of the News of the World Lucy Panton and Daily Star Sunday deputy editor Tom Savage have all been charged with making illegal payments. This was in July this year Is it just coincidence this story has been released on the same day as the rebekkah brooks and co trial has commenced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 30 October, 2013 Share Posted 30 October, 2013 More from Portugal (via Daily Mirror):- Disgruntled (and now deceased) former Ocean Club employee in frame. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-kidnapper-hotel-worker-2655757 pap I am sure you have noticed the two newspapers with two different suspects 6 years apart. Very puzzled by all this...other than civil court case. Your Mirror story and Guided Missile showing News Of World story in 2007. What is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 30 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 30 October, 2013 This from the Mirror in May this year British police probing Madeleine McCann’s disappearance now believe her kidnapper was staying in a holiday flat near the family. Scotland Yard detectives, who believe the youngster may still be alive, have narrowed their search to FOUR apartment blocks where the family were on holiday when the youngster went missing. They are trying to work out who was in them at the time in 2007. A British property owner in the Portuguese resort of Praia Da Luz told the Sunday Mirror police had pinpointed “persons of interest” to the blocks. He said officers had told him some properties had been sub-let at the time WITHOUT the *owners’ knowledge. The owner said police had spoken to him twice about the Ocean Club apartment blocks, which include the one where Madeleine was snatched. “The officer who spoke to me blurted out the blocks ....five, six, two and four, in that order. I was amazed,” said the Brit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 30 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 30 October, 2013 Definately the story from Miss Panton was printed in 2007 Ottery Not a new story at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 30 October, 2013 Share Posted 30 October, 2013 Clearly 2007....but stating female ..ie a maid at complex....NEWS oF wORLD as posted by Guided Missile. New Mirror stroryline as posted by pap.....states man ie man who had worked there but died as a result of tractor accident.2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 30 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 30 October, 2013 Yes Ottery it is a female This is the story reported in Australia on News.Com. au AN anonymous tip-off to the Prince of Wales has sent UK police on an urgent hunt for a new suspect in the Madeleine McCann case. The email - sent via Prince Charles' website - claimed a disgruntled former employee of the Portuguese resort where the toddler went missing, could be behind her disappearance. It claimed Madeleine was abducted from the Praia da Luz apartment in revenge against the complex's owners. It is understood police have confirmed the woman named in the email did work at the resort when Madeleine was last seen 150 days ago.Royal aides have passed the email on to Scotland Yard, which is now trying to trace the author. A police source told London newspaper The News of the World: "There have been hundreds of Madeleine theories, sightings and tips sent into UK cops from members of the public. But this one is different. "It's incredibly detailed and so far, from the inquiries being made in Portugal, it appears to be based on factual events." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 30 October, 2013 Share Posted 30 October, 2013 pap I am sure you have noticed the two newspapers with two different suspects 6 years apart. Very puzzled by all this...other than civil court case. Your Mirror story and Guided Missile showing News Of World story in 2007. What is going on? It's very difficult to tell at the moment, ottery. Potentially, this story pushes events into a different, perhaps "conclusive" direction. There are two large differences between the people named as suspects. First, there's the gender to consider. Second, there's the whole "still alive now" thing. Dead men, famously, tell no tales. If the crime were pinned on this fella, it'd be very difficult for him to dispute it. It'd also allow the investigation, and presumably the campaign, to start winding down - especially if the fate of Madeleine became known. Or it could just be another story that points blame away from the McCanns, who received their worst press in years this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 30 October, 2013 Share Posted 30 October, 2013 It's very difficult to tell at the moment, ottery. Potentially, this story pushes events into a different, perhaps "conclusive" direction. There are two large differences between the people named as suspects. First, there's the gender to consider. Second, there's the whole "still alive now" thing. Dead men, famously, tell no tales. If the crime were pinned on this fella, it'd be very difficult for him to dispute it. It'd also allow the investigation, and presumably the campaign, to start winding down - especially if the fate of Madeleine became known. Or it could just be another story that points blame away from the McCanns, who received their worst press in years this weekend. Distortion..distraction etc. All very strange... I had already discussed with friends...the blame game re dead peadophile..who had been mentioned by press in years gone by... Civil court case still to be concluded. With so much press/Police publicity etc...interesting. The old cynic in me:rolleyes: Before my Uncle Verbal steams in...... I had always hoped for the safe return of Maddie but suspected accident fall/overdose... on or before the night of the 3rd. I am a very interested party in the Brooks/Coulson trial......as they are so closely associated with Mr Cameron... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 30 October, 2013 Share Posted 30 October, 2013 An employee/ex employee of the resort is an obvious line of inquiry, they would know the layout of the apartment and how exposed it was. Also, importantly, an employee could also know how kids were often left unattended, this particular group appeared to do it like clockwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 30 October, 2013 Author Share Posted 30 October, 2013 The suspect we now have are someone that looks a bit like a certain individual in the case A number of charity workers And ex employee who might be male or female . Getting more like a game of Cluedo by the minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 4 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2013 (edited) In tescos tonight . Saw the daily mirror and a picture on the front page showing a picture of someone from a very ethnic background who they believe kidnapped maddie . He is the individual who used to work at the complex and died a few years later on a traffic What is really odd is that various people saw a white person carrying a lass away at around 10pm The e fit pictures recently released cleared showed a white male . So can the met or Portuguese police say who they are looking for and remove the efit pictures if they are looking for someone of the ethnic community . So thus ex worker is not a woman as first reported in 2007 but is now a non white person . Last week it was revealed Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry, are to apply under Portuguese law to become private “prosecutors”. It may help them influence the course of the investigation and any future prosecution. Edited 4 November, 2013 by Viking Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 What on earth is "someone from a very ethnic background" "someone of the ethnic community" and a "non-white person"? You've sent five whole paragraphs avoiding the word "black". Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 4 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Verbal get off your high horse . I was using the correct terminology . Ethnic community as it doesn't say where this person is from . Could be Somalian Moroccan or African or Middle Eastern The issue I was alluding to is for a number of years people have said it was a white male who was seen walking away with a young child . Either this is poor reporting or the met police,and mcanns their friends have got it fundamentally wrong or just don't have a clue what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 What on earth is "someone from a very ethnic background" "someone of the ethnic community" and a "non-white person"? You've sent five whole paragraphs avoiding the word "black". Why? Would be very interesting to know your take on this investigation...go on Verbal let us know what you think... Especially the press putting all these various staff members..past and present as suspects.. PS Whilst you are there...explain your crass allegation regarding me being anti...Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 4 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2013 Well verbal just for you the inviduals ethnicity can be classed as black African , black Caribbean or black other . Not that this matters . As the media mcanns , their friends and other alleged witness recollect seeing someone who is white taking a child away . If you recollect Murat was a prime suspect and he is white . What this latest article demonstrates is that nobody really has a scoobie what happened and all these reports go from one extreme to the other and don't actually help with the investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 As the media mcanns , their friends and other alleged witness recollect seeing someone who is white taking a child away . Wasn't this the sighting the Met ruled out as being some bloke carrying his daughter from the creche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 4 November, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2013 No I'm referring to the other guy who was seen about 10pm as reported by the Irish tourists if the media reports are anything to go by . I think the media are clutching at straws and not helpful to the investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 4 November, 2013 Share Posted 4 November, 2013 PS Whilst you are there...explain your crass allegation regarding me being anti...Israel You keep asking me this, but i have no idea what the mystery is. You said: My concern at the present time:scared: Should I be scared Verbal? The fact that Israel appear to have taken over the Governments of UK and USA:rolleyes: Did I read that 85% of our Goovernment are part of the Friends of Israel? Apparently even higher within the USA administration..What is this all about:? Who controls MFI and CIA? Verbal....pleeeese help me out here and shed some light on this mere mortal:p especially all this friends of Israel biz:? I said that this statement meant you are an anti-Semitic buffoon - because only an anti-Semitic buffoon would believe this. In what sense do i owe you an "apology"? It's merely a statement of fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 You keep asking me this, but i have no idea what the mystery is. You said: I said that this statement meant you are an anti-Semitic buffoon - because only an anti-Semitic buffoon would believe this. In what sense do i owe you an "apology"? It's merely a statement of fact. Name calling is par for the course with you Verbal. Statement of fact....my worries about UK and USA Governments or your pathetic name calling ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 Name calling is par for the course with you Verbal. Statement of fact....my worries about UK and USA Governments or your pathetic name calling ? I would say it's fairly accurate rather than pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 I would say it's fairly accurate rather than pathetic.calling OSM a buffoon is not that clever but i have seen worse on here. I think he was voicing pertinent concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 I would say it's fairly accurate rather than pathetic. hypo......? Just so I know where you are coming from:rolleyes: Are you endorsing the statement made by Verbal.. that I am a buffoon? that I am anti-Israel? (anti-semitic) or I am anti-Israel buffoon? OR do you wish to add your own personal 2p worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 hypo......? Just so I know where you are coming from:rolleyes: Are you endorsing the statement made by Verbal.. that I am a buffoon? that I am anti-Israel? (anti-semitic) or I am anti-Israel buffoon? OR do you wish to add your own personal 2p worth? I think you make buffoonish comments occasionally and I can see why someone would consider your earlier comments anti semitic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 I think you make buffoonish comments occasionally and I can see why someone would consider your earlier comments anti semitic. OK mate:p OPINIONS:? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 OK mate:p OPINIONS:? Indeed they are. Wouldn't pay them too much mind. While I can't speak to the veracity of your numbers percentage wise, it is fair to say that Zionism (and by implication, the state of Israel) has a disproportionate amount of influence in certain sectors - namely banking, media and politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 Indeed they are. Wouldn't pay them too much mind. While I can't speak to the veracity of your numbers percentage wise, it is fair to say that Zionism (and by implication, the state of Israel) has a disproportionate amount of influence in certain sectors - namely banking, media and politics. Verbal and hypo ..like a pair of tag wrestlers:D My mate from Israel voiced his concerns the direction his country was taking.... I said in reply..... give us mighty Saints.... another Eyal Berkovic and all will be forgiven:) Maybe the girlz and boyz are right.......I can be a buffoon:p Finding it very interesting the Mirror putting up the two E-FITS frome crime watch and now putting up the chap killed in the tractor accident:uhoh: As someone said ...all lines of enquiry..... News of World previously stated it was a maid who had been employed at the holiday base. Maybe the newspapers are carrying out their own investigation:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 Verbal and hypo ..like a pair of tag wrestlers:D Nah, not really. Continuing your metaphor, I'd see it more as a wrestler/manager combination. Verbal would be the guy in the ring, attempting to pummel the opposition with his offensive moves. hypo is the noodle-armed loud mouth in the corner. Not actually doing anything himself, but if circumstances permit, running into the ring from time to time to hit Verbal's assailant with a metal chair. Alternatively, think of Catwoman from the 1960s Batman. The real men are having a proper go at Batman and Robin, but Catwoman is in the corner hissing and extending her fingernails a lot. My mate from Israel voiced his concerns the direction his country was taking.... I would be too, and is why I was very careful to talk about Zionists as opposed to Jews. Some Jews utterly reject Zionism. The difference between Israel and almost every other country is the level of criticism. A big part of the reason Israel doesn't get criticised as much as it should is because every time someone makes an interesting observation, they're accused of being in Club Hitler, indirectly at least. Finding it very interesting the Mirror putting up the two E-FITS frome crime watch and now putting up the chap killed in the tractor accident:uhoh: As someone said ...all lines of enquiry..... News of World previously stated it was a maid who had been employed at the holiday base. Maybe the newspapers are carrying out their own investigation:rolleyes: The newspapers are going to come down on them like a ton of bricks if the green-light is ever given. No one likes being sued. That goes double if the complaint is baseless. As I said before, the only thing that all of these reports have in common is that the McCanns didn't do it. That's the underlying message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 The newspapers are going to come down on them like a ton of bricks if the green-light is ever given. No one likes being sued. That goes double if the complaint is baseless. As I said before, the only thing that all of these reports have in common is that the McCanns didn't do it. That's the underlying message. What green light is this, and who presses the on button? You are not seriously suggesting the /McCanns control the press as well now are you? If the press had the slightest bit of proof that they might have done it they would be all over it, nothing or no one would stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 What green light is this, and who presses the on button? You are not seriously suggesting the /McCanns control the press as well now are you? If the press had the slightest bit of proof that they might have done it they would be all over it, nothing or no one would stop them. Gerry is in the masons dontcha know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 November, 2013 Share Posted 5 November, 2013 What green light is this, and who presses the on button? You are not seriously suggesting the /McCanns control the press as well now are you? If the press had the slightest bit of proof that they might have done it they would be all over it, nothing or no one would stop them. What an imaginative fellow you are. No, I'm not suggesting the McCanns control the press. I would suggest that they have managed to silence them through the four defamation suits that they've successfully prosecuted. A new piece of evidence, or perhaps a change in government/investigation direction, would act as a green light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 March, 2014 Share Posted 19 March, 2014 Just watched the news and it looks like they have identified a new suspect, who seems to be have been wearing the Arsenal "redcurrant" home shirt from their centenary season or whatever it was. Except C4 News too scared to actually say that so painfully described as a "burgundy long sleeve top". Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 20 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 20 March, 2014 So the mcanns issue a statement they are happy with the new police investigation . What happened to the burglars leads the met were pursuing ? Not heard a word from the mcanns or the met the police on that lead . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 What green light is this, and who presses the on button? You are not seriously suggesting the /McCanns control the press as well now are you? If the press had the slightest bit of proof that they might have done it they would be all over it, nothing or no one would stop them. You haven't gone far enough down this particular surrealist track. He not only believes the McCanns control the press; they control the police too. The defamation suits, in what counts for his mind, are about control, not the truth. It simply hasn't occurred to him - it is beyond the bounds of possibility - that the McCanns' legal actions might have been successful because the imputations against them were baseless. It is the misfortune of the rest of us that we have to glimpse into a mind so limited by paranoia, lack of functioning imagination or ethics (eg accusing murdered people of play-acting) - whose 'thoughts' are echoed only by an anti-Semitic buffoon. McCann-baiting is a depressingly popular pastime - but when the conspiracy fanatics join in it's an idiot's accident waiting to happen. The gutless pair lack the courage to actually repeat the libel against the McCanns, so sneer and insinuate around the edges. Peevish paranoia and cowardice all wrapped up in one unedifying package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 You haven't gone far enough down this particular surrealist track. He not only believes the McCanns control the press; they control the police too. The defamation suits, in what counts for his mind, are about control, not the truth. It simply hasn't occurred to him - it is beyond the bounds of possibility - that the McCanns' legal actions might have been successful because the imputations against them were baseless. It is the misfortune of the rest of us that we have to glimpse into a mind so limited by paranoia, lack of functioning imagination or ethics (eg accusing murdered people of play-acting) - whose 'thoughts' are echoed only by an anti-Semitic buffoon. McCann-baiting is a depressingly popular pastime - but when the conspiracy fanatics join in it's an idiot's accident waiting to happen. The gutless pair lack the courage to actually repeat the libel against the McCanns, so sneer and insinuate around the edges. Peevish paranoia and cowardice all wrapped up in one unedifying package. Verbal........You do make me laugh. To be honest with you......I don't understand half of your post:scared: I know you refer to me ..coz you keep calling me names:lol: Good to see the enquiry continues at pace....... The Met have uncovered sooooo many leads. So many different suspects....... I am confident that they would do the same with any other similar enquiry. Maybe I will be proved wrong one day........ My heart has always gone out to the little girl Madeline McCann. Anyway....back to my dictionary......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 Verbal........You do make me laugh. To be honest with you......I don't understand half of your post:scared: I know you refer to me ..coz you keep calling me names:lol: Good to see the enquiry continues at pace....... The Met have uncovered sooooo many leads. So many different suspects....... I am confident that they would do the same with any other similar enquiry. Maybe I will be proved wrong one day........ My heart has always gone out to the little girl Madeline McCann. Anyway....back to my dictionary......... I wouldn't let him rile you. Never has a shark been so utterly toothless swimming in its own waters as Verbal here. It's not like these accusations are even new. It's repeat play from 2012. The accusations of cowardice might be new and they elicited a rumbling chuckle from me. Captain Anonymous calling anyone a coward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 I wouldn't let him rile you. Never has a shark been so utterly toothless swimming in its own waters as Verbal here. It's not like these accusations are even new. It's repeat play from 2012. The accusations of cowardice might be new and they elicited a rumbling chuckle from me. Captain Anonymous calling anyone a coward I was secretly impressed that someone... off this forum.. would bother to go to all the effort of looking into my background and my previous place of work. I would not call that cowardice......more the work of a nosy busbody:rolleyes: Very good clues left on the enquiry line.... If only that person asked me first...I would have saved a lot of effort on their part. I am not even important.. Anyway...I wish the Met Police all the best with their new line of enquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 I was secretly impressed that someone... off this forum.. would bother to go to all the effort of looking into my background and my previous place of work. I would not call that cowardice......more the work of a nosy busbody:rolleyes: Very good clues left on the enquiry line.... If only that person asked me first...I would have saved a lot of effort on their part. I am not even important.. Have I missed something here? Someone off the forum stalking you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 Have I missed something here? Someone off the forum stalking you? Name calling and bully boyz who are full of bile.... just luv those sort of handbag swirling loudmouths. Who that is will remain anonymous.......as the evidence is out of my hands. Can't put a name to that nosy barsteward:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 Name calling and bully boyz who are full of bile.... just luv those sort of handbag swirling loudmouths. Who that is will remain anonymous.......as the evidence is out of my hands. Can't put a name to that nosy barsteward:D Blimey, ottery I've always viewed the "straight-to-insult" thing as a mixed blessing. On the one hand, you've got people saying nasty things, but on the other, doesn't really play that well over the long term. Verbal has been pulled repeatedly for the consistently negative way he goes about (ahem) "debating". He's played the anti-semitic nuke so many times that it fails to be impressive anymore. Besides, according to Netanyahu, anyone who supports the BDS boycotts is anti-semitic. A lot of people fall into that camp, myself included. Now call me elitist if you must, but if I've got the choice of who gets to falsely apply that weaponised term to me, I'm going to take the Israeli leader's endorsement over that of an impotent internet cockmunch any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 Have I missed something here? Someone off the forum stalking you? Thats is not only worrying its actually quite sad someone has found the time to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 Im anti-Israel. They've got a great way of shutting down any criticism. Calling anyone who dares damn them a anti-semetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 Thats is not only worrying its actually quite sad someone has found the time to do that. Inclination is more worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 Have I missed something here? Someone off the forum stalking you? So let me get this straight. You two Chuckles are perfectly happy to make your hurtful insinuations against the McCanns, but you profess hurt feelings because one of you imagines - I doubt very much it's true - that they're being 'stalked'? You're both beyond parody. You do realise that it's not such a good idea, when someone suggests you're prone to mindless paranoia, to actually demonstrate it, right? And since we're on the subject of accusations borne of conspiratorial rubbish, are you now - after the court case and all the evidence you could possibly want - prepared to apologise for suggesting that Lee Rigby was play-acting his own murder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 So let me get this straight. You two Chuckles are perfectly happy to make your hurtful insinuations against the McCanns, but you profess hurt feelings because one of you imagines - I doubt very much it's true - that they're being 'stalked'? You're both beyond parody. You do realise that it's not such a good idea, when someone suggests you're prone to mindless paranoia, to actually demonstrate it, right? And since we're on the subject of accusations borne of conspiratorial rubbish, are you now - after the court case and all the evidence you could possibly want - prepared to apologise for suggesting that Lee Rigby was play-acting his own murder? As I said Verbals........you do make me laugh. Any chance of you giving some of your wonderful insight into the missing Maddie incident or the ongoing Met enquiry. Or even your views on my concerns with the Israeli world affairs.. That would be much more helpful than your nasty little efforts to date. If I give my opinion/observations on various subjects......just an opinion or concerns. Maybe...instead of you acting like a pompous arse.......educate me on where I have gone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 Inclination is more worrying. The inclination is worse than the action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 Im anti-Israel. They've got a great way of shutting down any criticism. Calling anyone who dares damn them a anti-semetic. I am sure that there are some genuine anti-semites out there, as opposed to people critical of Israeli policy and its effects around the world. It's a permanent double standard for the West, and a permanent source of resentment in the Middle East. The AS-bomb was dropped on Anelka, dropped on supporters of the BDS boycotts. Boycotts are a legitimate form of protest; something that may influence policymakers in Israel. To Netanyahu, that's anti-semitic. Everybody knows that Anelka is not a genocidal madman, most people didn't even know what it was. The level of hysteria was predictably and aptly disproportionate. Same thing goes for Netanyahu's claims about boycott supporters. It's a weaponised term that has lost its potency through over-use. That's a shame - because as I said in my opening sentence, there are genuine anti-semites out there that would cause harm. The term should probably be reserved for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 20 March, 2014 Share Posted 20 March, 2014 I am sure that there are some genuine anti-semites out there, as opposed to people critical of Israeli policy and its effects around the world. It's a permanent double standard for the West, and a permanent source of resentment in the Middle East. The AS-bomb was dropped on Anelka, dropped on supporters of the BDS boycotts. Boycotts are a legitimate form of protest; something that may influence policymakers in Israel. To Netanyahu, that's anti-semitic. Everybody knows that Anelka is not a genocidal madman, most people didn't even know what it was. The level of hysteria was predictably and aptly disproportionate. Same thing goes for Netanyahu's claims about boycott supporters. It's a weaponised term that has lost its potency through over-use. That's a shame - because as I said in my opening sentence, there are genuine anti-semites out there that would cause harm. The term should probably be reserved for them. The Liberal Elite self harming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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