Viking Warrior Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 (edited) Call me a cynic but strange that the Met police have released press statements about investigating Madeline Mccann and they have 38 new suspects 12 of which are British, , This is 6 years after she went missing Really strange they announce this when this week its revealed that the Lawrence family were bugged as was a friend of stevan lawrence. Also further arrests of met police offices in the Plebgate saga were made this week Talk about using the media to deflect the news away from their wrong doings yet again Edited 5 July, 2013 by Viking Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Where's pap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 It's not really that strange. On June 13th the Home Office asked the Met (who previously weren't dealing with the matter) to conduct a review of the investigation, and report back this week. That has now been done, and the Met think there are enough unanswered questions in the initial investigation to warrant a full re-investigation. It's not as if the Met have been investigating it for the past 6 years, and all of a sudden decided to pipe up about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Stu They have previously been involved. I would have thought that the home office should have asked another force to investigate this. Not the Met police. I have little faith in the Met Police going back thirty years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Call me a cynic but strange that the Met police have released press statements about investigating Madeline Mccann and they have 38 new suspects 12 of which are British, , This is 6 years after she went missing Not strange at all considering the Met has never investigated the case up until the last few days. It was handled by Portuguese police from 2007-2008 and the officer in charge was a bent copper and cocked the initial investigation up. He apparently had previous for ordering or overseeing the beating a false confession out of the mother of another little girl that went missing in 2004, and they failed to do even basics in the hours after Madeleine disappeared. This was during the most crucial time of the investigation. I think the Leicestershire constabulary assisted soon afterwards but the Portuguese authorities were in charge during this period. Then for the next few years the McCanns hired numerous firms of private detectives until the government ordered the Met to launch Operation Grange in 2011, which was an investigative review (different from an investigation) into the case. It's only this month in the last few days that the investigative review has become an investigation. Really strange they announce this when this week its revealed that the Lawrence family were bugged as was a friend of stevan lawrence. Also further arrests of met police offices in the Plebgate saga were made this week The bugging of the Lawrence family doesn't surprise me at all. At the end of the day the Lawrence's took on the entire establishment and brought it crashing down. The Met were officially exposed by MacPherson in the late '90s but after personally spending most of the '80s working on the front desk of a London police station I could have told you back then that they in-part prioritised cases by the colour of the victim's skin. Talk about using the media to deflect the news away from their wrong doings yet again Every tiny piece of unraveled information about the original Lawrence case was handled has been broadcast by loudspeaker in the media in the last 20 years and rightly so. The Met were exposed for what they were (and I suspect the problem hasn't fully gone away to this day) and I've got nothing but admiration for the Lawrence family. As for plebgate it's evident that there are still officers in the Met who are stupid enough to think they can take on a politician and win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upwind Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 From the Mirror............. "The decision to launch a full criminal investigation on foreign soil is very rare. British police made the announcement after reviewing the case for two years. Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, who is spearheading the inquiry, said: “The review has given us new thinking, new theories, new evidence and new witnesses.” His team – the 37-strong Operation Grange – has re-interviewed witnesses, believed to be British holidaymakers, and obtained new information about the night Madeleine went missing. A small team of officers is expected to head to Portugal within weeks and will be based there for several months" team of 37 officers...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I thought that the Met police took over the review of the case from the leicester police in 2011. Im not sure of the rationale of announcing that they have 38 suspects is a good ploy. Some of those may suddenly disappear or cover their tracks. . Jack its not only about taking on a politician , Im convinced that some innocent folk have been set up for crimes they didnt commit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2013 That is a small team . Just think of the cost Flights , R&R flights OT hotels etc etc for 37 people. will the portugese officials allow them to question portugese folk and then there will be interpreters Bloody hell Im sounding more like PAP every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 They have previously been involved Sorry mate, apart from being ordered by the home secretary to review the original investigation from May 2011 they've had nothing to do with the active investigation of this case until now. I would have thought that the home office should have asked another force to investigate this. Not the Met police. I have little faith in the Met Police going back thirty years The Met have way more resources than any other constabulary in the country and they're probably one of the few constabularies that would have the resources to even do it. I worked for the Met for over 15 years and whilst it's had more than its fair share of problems, there are a hell of a lot of decent, hard-working and reputable people working for it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I welcome a full investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, provided that investigation doesn't assume that Kate and Gerry had nothing to do with it. I've never really bought their story from the stuff they choose to show on TV. I suspect no sensible parent will. Their defence is that they left their kids alone, and someone abducted one of them. On that level alone, I find it baffling. I've left my kids in the house, post-13, while I've nipped to the shop, etc. To leave babies alone in a foreign country? Madness. Even if they had nothing to do with their daughter's disappearance, they are guilty of being hugely irresponsible and I don't get why they have so much airtime given their circumstances. It's a sad fact of life that kids go missing far too often. The McCanns are distinct in their longevity. There's very much an element of "thou doth protest too much" about the whole affair. I think they've been protected from on high because of the international nature of the case ( very reminiscent of the Louise Woodward case in that respect ). The Portuguese have unfailingly been presented as incompetent and I wonder how things might have turned out if similar events had played out in a UK CentreParcs instead of the Algarve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 This time, Pap, I very much agree with you. 37 officers and 38 suspects? One of them is going to escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 This is a politically motivated investigation, a form of electioneering. The chances of a successful conviction are minimal. Madeleine McCann has been missing for six years and is almost certainly dead. 37 officers time would be far better spent investigating real known cases of abuse of children who are alive now and in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Pap told you I was getting more and more like you in your thoughts. have I been indoctrinated by your constant post of being left of centre etc, but I do agree totally with your post above. Jack yes there are good decent policeman in the met. But its hard to differentiate from the good an bad. Some automatically believe because you are Young or ethnic you are the perpetrator of a crime instead of thinking you might actually have been the victim. That was the case with me in the early 70's . I was a student nurse in London . I was 19 , and got set upon by a forty something year old drunk irishman. I tried to defend myself . The next minute I was bundled and kicked (by one policeman) into the police van and again by the same individual. I spent 18 hours in a police cell in whitehall . I was going to be charged with GBH Not once was a questioned during that 18 hours in the cell. In the end they released me without an apology apart from saying the person who they thought was the victim . was wanted for various other violent assualts. So from that day on I have little trust in the Police force. That Copper who kicked me and thumbed me has a lot to answer for. I didnt struggle I just complied with their instruction. Yet they still meted out violence. Tossers. PS that has been the one and only time I have ever been arrested by the police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Why are 37 Police officials involved in this case according to wikipeadia only 30 officers are involved with Operation Yewtree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 So from that day on I have little trust in the Police force. That Copper who kicked me and thumbed me has a lot to answer for. I didnt struggle I just complied with their instruction. Yet they still meted out violence. Tossers. PS that has been the one and only time I have ever been arrested by the police What happened to you was obviously not right, but not a reason to cast judgement on an entire force, because of the actions of just a few officers 40 years ago. Just like in any organisation, public or private, there are good people and there bad people... we need to support the good ones and help them improve their organisation, and not allow the bad ones to increase their power or influence. We also need to not let the bad ones dominate our judgement and opinion, otherwise we will lose trust in everything and everyone, and where will that lead us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I may have missed it, but I'm yet to see any sort of admission of wrong doing on the part of the McCann's. They were in the wrong to leave their children alone, yet don't seem to be able to admit the fact. For all the **** ups the police made, had they stayed at home with their children or taken them out with them (what most normal people do) they would still have their daughter. Had this been some chav's from a sink estate, I've no doubt they would have been hounded by the press and had their remaining children taken off them. That said, they must be going through hell every day (made worse by the fact that deep down they must know they contributed to this) and I hope these new lines of enquiry lead us to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 It is perhaps the guilt about leaving her that has led them to their unending devotion to the cause... As much as I agree with you, I can't help but think that the public perception of their never-ending hunt (and lets face it, a lot of people do think 'Oh, them again' when they see them on telly) is more down to the fact the media picked up on it and ran with it so long, than the fact that they are doing any more than many other parents would in a similar situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 It is perhaps the guilt about leaving her that has led them to their unending devotion to the cause... As much as I agree with you, I can't help but think that the public perception of their never-ending hunt (and lets face it, a lot of people do think 'Oh, them again' when they see them on telly) is more down to the fact the media picked up on it and ran with it so long, than the fact that they are doing any more than many other parents would in a similar situation. That's fair comment. I suspect their drive to keep MM in the news stems from their guilt about letting her down. imo they were grossly negligent in ensuring their children's safety and strike me as very self centred people - but I doubt they killed her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 That's fair comment. I suspect their drive to keep MM in the news stems from their guilt about letting her down. imo they were grossly negligent in ensuring their children's safety and strike me as very self centred people - but I doubt they killed her. They could have sold her on as a white slave and done the kidnapping bit as a cover though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 They could have sold her on as a white slave and done the kidnapping bit as a cover though? Whats the going rate for selling a child? They're both doctors on £100,000pa plus. Aside from the necessary psychopathy required why would they risk careers and freedom for a bit of money they didnt need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 That's fair comment. I suspect their drive to keep MM in the news stems from their guilt about letting her down. imo they were grossly negligent in ensuring their children's safety and strike me as very self centred people - but I doubt they killed her. Interesting post on the David Icke forums (yeah, yeah) Reckons there are 195 separate leads. Don't know how accurate these are. Sharing, rather than endorsing. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061597985&postcount=5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Like others I think they are guilty. Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Like others I think they are guilty. Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk 2 There was something in their body language in the early press conferences that didn't ring true, for me, but I'm no expert. It seemed to me that they knew something but weren't letting on, that they knew she wasn't coming back. I would dearly love to be proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Its is very sad that Madeline is missing I hope for the sake of the McCanns that the Met police can solve this case and someone is brought to justice. I would not like to be the Mccanns if they are found to be involved. Lets hope for their sake they are totally exonerated once and for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 July, 2013 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Hi Minty Not casting doubt on the whole force but I think there have been far more bad apples than we are led to believe. I can name two for a start in Orkney who tried to pervert the course of justice one has been removed from their duties. Fotrtunately there was independant cctv footage availble un be known to the police . Totally blew away the plods evidence. The second one and others hopefully will soon be brought to justice for their involvement in a crime up here. I take you point Minty. You can not tarnish everyone. Its like the Stafford hospitals . yes there were bad practices . so it is wrong to label ever nurse doctor as being bad unless you have experienced bad behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I may have missed it, but I'm yet to see any sort of admission of wrong doing on the part of the McCann's. They were in the wrong to leave their children alone, yet don't seem to be able to admit the fact. For all the **** ups the police made, had they stayed at home with their children or taken them out with them (what most normal people do) they would still have their daughter. Had this been some chav's from a sink estate, I've no doubt they would have been hounded by the press and had their remaining children taken off them. That said, they must be going through hell every day (made worse by the fact that deep down they must know they contributed to this) and I hope these new lines of enquiry lead us to the truth. They should have been prosecuted for Child abandonment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Why is it that the McCanns' case gets so much more publicity than Katrice Lee? Surely the government could appoint a team of plod to take over the case from what was an incompetent BRITISH investigation: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-16929835 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Why is it that the McCanns' case gets so much more publicity than Katrice Lee? Surely the government could appoint a team of plod to take over the case from what was an incompetent BRITISH investigation: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-16929835 As I suggested, you'd probably have to ask the media that question... I'm sure there will be many other just as deserving cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Interesting post on the David Icke forums (yeah, yeah) Reckons there are 195 separate leads. Don't know how accurate these are. Sharing, rather than endorsing. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061597985&postcount=5 Regardless of whether the reader is a fan of David Icke or not.......the list is fact and worth a read.. There were many points in the list I was aware..which greatly worried me but some unknown points made ... sent alarm bells ringing for me. I have always had my doubts re this alleged abduction but you try to give the benefit of the doubt and hope/pray that there was a miracle and the little girl was really alive and found. Gerry has never helped himself during the early part of the enquiry.....strange man as far as I am concerned Kate looked as though at any time she wanted to tell the true story of what happened AND then would NOT answer many reasonable questions put to her in interview. I have felt from early days that there has been a concerted effort show the couple as victims and not a REAL desire by them or their close associates to seek for alleged abducted girl Madeleine. Gerry has friends in high places through Free Masonry and Catholic guild through the Police , MPs , Prime Ministers up to and including The Pope.. Whatever DCI Redwood states about suspects..some will no doubt be located and interviewed/arrested with the usual fanfare ala some of the celebrities in the Saville enquiry... But interested to know how Mr Redwood dealt with many of the 195 points in the list of leads/info.prior to saying he has 37 suspects....at the same time discounting Gerry, Kate and their group of friends who all seem to give so much ammunition to arouse a suspicious mind.. Then and now I felt the answer lay close to home..... Was it a dreadful accident by two negligent parents...who then had to deal with the loss of their child and the susequent protection of their careers.. Like others I would love to be proved wrong ... But my opinion is that the young girld Madeleine passed away one or two days before the family reported her abducted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Didn't realise that the McCanns had already been excluded from the investigation. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Didn't realise that the McCanns had already been excluded from the investigation. Meh. I believe investigating Met Officer DCI Redwood stated that......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I believe investigating Met Officer DCI Redwood stated that......? You're quite right; he did. I don't see a valid reason for them to be excluded from the investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I don't see a valid reason for them to be excluded from the investigation. You must be incredibly close to the investigation to make this statement. Given your presumed inside knowledge of the case and the forensics, what precisely have the police "invalidly" excluded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 You must be incredibly close to the investigation to make this statement. Given your presumed inside knowledge of the case and the forensics, what precisely have the police "invalidly" excluded? I'm not incredibly close to the investigation. The vast majority of unlawful killings are attributed to someone close to the victim. We don't know that's what this is, but it's a possible outcome. If the taxpayer is going to spend millions on an investigation, I'd like them to consider all possible suspects. The Portuguese police listed the McCanns as suspects, as do, I'm guessing, a significant portion of the UK population. If our money is being spent on a verdict that reflects the absolute truth, why shouldn't the McCanns or their friends, who have never been successfully exonerated, and only have their own patchy and oft-changing recollections to back each other up, be listed as possible suspects in this case? Any investigation that begins with disputed information as a point of truth is ultimately flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 So just the amateur musings of someone who has no knowledge of the details of the case. All you're actually saying is that you represent a strain of public opinion that pillories the McCanns based on sweet **** all - and that you should be entitled to your pound of tax-paid flesh by having them charged, even though they have by now been excluded as suspects by the investigators themselves. Just so we're clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 So just the amateur musings of someone who has no knowledge of the details of the case. All you're actually saying is that you represent a strain of public opinion that pillories the McCanns based on sweet **** all - and that you should be entitled to your pound of tax-paid flesh by having them charged, even though they have by now been excluded as suspects by the investigators themselves. Just so we're clear. Didn't say anything about them being charged. They were very close to events. It beggars belief that none of them are being considered for investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 So just the amateur musings of someone who has no knowledge of the details of the case. All you're actually saying is that you represent a strain of public opinion that pillories the McCanns based on sweet **** all - and that you should be entitled to your pound of tax-paid flesh by having them charged, even though they have by now been excluded as suspects by the investigators themselves. Just so we're clear. Posters like pap , myself and many others..including lawyers, serving and retired Police Officers and various intelligence officers are starting to question just what is going on....... We have the right to question what the Government is churning out.....and why they are in support of Kate and Gerry:? I have noticed on this and other forums where posters give their opinion...the schills come out to play:rolleyes: I fully understand that where a poster is out of order and way off the mark that any sensible challenge is par for the course...AND CORRECT.. BUT when professional peeps get involved...I start wondering what their objective really is..Who they are working for and what directive Vauxhall are following...: As I said earlier, apart from the services, Government, Police and Mainstream Media....There appears to be an overwhelming influence in support of two parents ..who at the least are massively neglectful of their small children. WHY HAVE THEY RECEIVED ALL THIS SUPPORT AND ATTENTION FROM ROYAL FAMILY,PRIME MINISTERS, POLITICIANS, SERVICES and NOW The Metropolitan Police........FREE MASONS AND CATHOLIC GUILD.....Just realised most are Masons!!! pap , myself and many of my friends and ex colleagues have a reasonable opinion that not all is what it seems.... Just because you give an opinion that the family and friends have been excluded from suspicion on the say so of Investigating Officer Redwood...does not mean his or his directed course (chasing suspect peado targets around Europe) permanently eliminates Gerry, Kate and friends from suspicion...... Verbal....like us peeps questioning what is going on....you are entitled to your opinion.. But I for one smell a rat with the whole British authorities approach to MR McCann... Like us...you are entitled to your opinion BUT please don't shove it down our throats.... WE MAY BE WRONG BUT THEN AGAIN....................???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I have noticed on this and other forums where posters give their opinion...the schills come out to play:rolleyes: Noticed, have you, ottery? I have to admit, as someone who can chip in on either side of an issue, depending on whether I think the right things have been done, I do find it a bit suspect when you have a poster, that no matter what, unfailingly lines up behind the official account of things. Problem is, just thinking that puts you in line for being the sort of nutter people want to portray you as. I've decided to take comfort in the fact that so many people are pleased with the worldview they have, even if I don't agree with it myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 http://www.mccannfiles.com/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I have to admit, as someone who can chip in on either side of an issue Where's the blood, Bazza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Where's the blood, Bazza? Do stay on topic, CB. This is the McCann thread. Glad to have made an impression on you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Do stay on topic, CB. This is the McCann thread. Glad to have made an impression on you though. Just responding to your post making a general point and not at all about the McCanns. The government told me to post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 I may have missed it, but I'm yet to see any sort of admission of wrong doing on the part of the McCann's. They were in the wrong to leave their children alone, yet don't seem to be able to admit the fact. For all the **** ups the police made, had they stayed at home with their children or taken them out with them (what most normal people do) they would still have their daughter. Had this been some chav's from a sink estate, I've no doubt they would have been hounded by the press and had their remaining children taken off them. That said, they must be going through hell every day (made worse by the fact that deep down they must know they contributed to this) and I hope these new lines of enquiry lead us to the truth. Well said sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 It is wrong how they seem to be able to influence the police with their money and connections. 37 officers is just barking mad, must be a better use of resources as there is probably little chance of her being alive. All the publicity is rather annoying but you can't blame the parents for doing all they can to get publicity. They should never have left their kids on their own so are to blame for what happened so are going to be motivated by the guilt they feel. I don't buy the idea that they killed her and are just carrying out an elaborate cover-up. If that was the case they would have stopped and shut up a long time ago. They certainly wouldn't want 37 British old bill on the case. I also don't think it's likely that all their friends at the tapas restaurant would cover it up if they did kill her, with all this publicity someone would blab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 I agree to a point but they have gone along with it so long perhaps they cannot but carry on and dig deeper. It is a tragic situation and the real victim was helpless and that is what upsets me so much. I do think that the McCanns have had preferential treatment compared to others and also agree with others on here that had it been a single mother from Shirley Warren her other children would have been taken into care. The whole group seem a bit odd and they should be requestioned as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 I do think that the McCanns have had preferential treatment compared to others and also agree with others on here that had it been a single mother from Shirley Warren her other children would have been taken into care. The whole group seem a bit odd and they should be requestioned as well I find it odd that none of the other couples said anything at the time. Had we been meeting a couple and they'd left their kids at home alone, I'd have said something. It seemed a really "normal" thing for them to do, I bet there aren't many parents if any on here that have done the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 I find it odd that none of the other couples said anything at the time. Had we been meeting a couple and they'd left their kids at home alone, I'd have said something. It seemed a really "normal" thing for them to do, I bet there aren't many parents if any on here that have done the same thing. From what I recall all the parents in their little dining group were doing it, and taking it in turns to check on each others children. That raises the question of whether one of the other parents in the Tapas 10 (or whatever it was) were responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised if the Met weren't in collusion with the McCann's on this one. And I don't think we can play down the fact there are 37 officers on this case. I mean, 37 officers? It's not just a coincidence is it? 30 on Operation Yewtree and 37 on this case? I'm glad others haven't missed the conspiratorial nature of this detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 Pap told you I was getting more and more like you in your thoughts. have I been indoctrinated by your constant post of being left of centre etc, but I do agree totally with your post above. Jack yes there are good decent policeman in the met. But its hard to differentiate from the good an bad. Some automatically believe because you are Young or ethnic you are the perpetrator of a crime instead of thinking you might actually have been the victim. That was the case with me in the early 70's . I was a student nurse in London . I was 19 , and got set upon by a forty something year old drunk irishman. I tried to defend myself . The next minute I was bundled and kicked (by one policeman) into the police van and again by the same individual. I spent 18 hours in a police cell in whitehall . I was going to be charged with GBH Not once was a questioned during that 18 hours in the cell. In the end they released me without an apology apart from saying the person who they thought was the victim . was wanted for various other violent assualts. So from that day on I have little trust in the Police force. That Copper who kicked me and thumbed me has a lot to answer for. I didnt struggle I just complied with their instruction. Yet they still meted out violence. Tossers. PS that has been the one and only time I have ever been arrested by the police Maybe it was a 'Minority Report' type arrest? They might have been precogs who knew you'd turn out to be a **** in the future and would be posting unfounded conspiratorial b*llocks about them in 2013? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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