Miffy Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Just for a bit of fun: Who do you think would be the most valuable ever Saints player in today's market, and what would that value be? Their value should reflect their worth whilst at Saints, not before or after. I will go for Keegan, despite the fact that he was beyond his prime, he was still a global star and I reckon would be worth £25m in today's market.....or would it be LeTiss....or Channon....or Perry Groves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzybear Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Keegan would've been worth a bit but he was nearing the end of his career. It's got to be Bale: right age and considered to be at the very pinnacle of world football in the modern age. Probably will end up as a Real galatico soon enough, and that = big £££££'s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Ron Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Terry Paine or Big Ron? Both full internationals, Big Ron had an amazing goal scoring record his first few seasons with us (tied with Best for top goalscorer), and Paine had a phenomenal record for a winger, (notwithstanding assists and a freaking world cup winner ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Keegan would've been worth a bit but he was nearing the end of his career. It's got to be Bale: right age and considered to be at the very pinnacle of world football in the modern age. Probably will end up as a Real galatico soon enough, and that = big £££££'s Their value should reflect their worth whilst at Saints, not before or after. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO5 4BW Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Always annoys me a bit when people say Keegan was past his peak when at SFC. When we signed him he was the reigning European Footballer of the Year. While with us he was England captain, top scorer in the top division and PFA player of the year - none of which he was at Liverpool. To answer the original question - Keegan, Channon, Paine or Davies would all command enormous fees if playing today. The fact that most managers are now foreign would make MLT a more attractive proposition too. English managers often just saw lack of effort rather than sublime skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Steve Moran. Best young forward of his generation (and before back injury) - I include Lineker in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Ron Davies for me - If not maybe Le Tiss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibizasaint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Wonder how much Mark Wright in his prime for us would be worth now? compared with Ferdinand/Lescott etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzybear Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Apologies Trousers, misinterpreted the question. I'd say Le Tiss, or maybe Shilton - he was the best goalkeeper of his generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 When Kevin Keegan joined Saints he was 28 (a few days off 29), so the same age as Ronaldo or Rooney, two years older than Messi. He was the current England Captain, European footballer of the year, and was expected to go from Hamburg to Man United or Real Madrid. Furthermore, he was the nearest thing to Beckham in the 70's in terms of marketing, media profile and advertising, a world star. When McMenemy signed him it was simply incredible, he was in his peak and had just had a fantastic season at Hamburg. So by comparison, what price Ronaldo or Messi to Saints now?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Ron Davies - anyone who could guarantee that many goals a season would be an enormous price...40 million perhaps? Matty - priceless really...goals, creativity. entertainment - yes, priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Shearer. he was a goalscoring machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Bobby Stokes.....the goal he scored at Wembley 1976..makes him priceless and most valuable Saints player of all time. That is until we win another FA cup or the CL the year after next. Paine Davies Channon Lambert Keegan MLT All in the 100 million bracket but Bobby Stokes takes the title for now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Shearer. he was a goalscoring machine Alan Shearer is probably the right answer - think he we sold him for a British record which tells it's own story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Paine, as a midfielder in the modern game his skill and reading of the game would set his value very high. No one has mentioned Martin Chivers another who left for a then record fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Keith Cassells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Obviously Keegan. It's not even a discussion. Were any other players European Player of the Year when they joined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'00' Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Mick Channon scored goals for England and was inventive & unique Also for his prospects for the nags.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Always annoys me a bit when people say Keegan was past his peak when at SFC. When we signed him he was the reigning European Footballer of the Year. While with us he was England captain, top scorer in the top division and PFA player of the year - none of which he was at Liverpool. To answer the original question - Keegan, Channon, Paine or Davies would all command enormous fees if playing today. The fact that most managers are now foreign would make MLT a more attractive proposition too. English managers often just saw lack of effort rather than sublime skill This. Possibly Davies 3rd and Paine 4th as goals adds to value but apart from that agree with the whole post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Should be MLT but probably would be KK due to his stature at the time. Had we kept Shearer for another season or two it probably would have been him. He was arguably England's greatest ever CF. I do wonder what MLT would be worth at today's prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Alan Shearer is probably the right answer - think he we sold him for a British record which tells it's own story. We did, £3.2m, which was a fortune at the time. If that happened today he'd probably go for £50m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Christ, if MLT was controlling games for a smaller club and scoring 20-25 goals from midfield in today's premier league, he'd be worth an insane amount of money. In fact, the modern games love of a more attacking midfielder or forward playing in front of 2 holding midfielders in more of a 433 would probably have suited him perfectly. In our current system he could have played in 3 different attacking positions. Yes, plus he's English (well, as good as) so that would bump his price up even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Peels Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 If MLT were around today, he'd go for a lot... English talent and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Has to be Paine for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 When Kevin Keegan joined Saints he was 28 (a few days off 29), so the same age as Ronaldo or Rooney, two years older than Messi. He was the current England Captain, European footballer of the year, and was expected to go from Hamburg to Man United or Real Madrid. Furthermore, he was the nearest thing to Beckham in the 70's in terms of marketing, media profile and advertising, a world star. When McMenemy signed him it was simply incredible, he was in his peak and had just had a fantastic season at Hamburg. So by comparison, what price Ronaldo or Messi to Saints now?... This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 We did, £3.2m, which was a fortune at the time. If that happened today he'd probably go for £50m. Which means that in today's money the lethal replacement strike force of Dixon and Speedie that we recruiteded would be worth around £17M. *shudders* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Obviously Keegan. It's not even a discussion. Were any other players European Player of the Year when they joined? Apparently it is! Which means that in today's money the lethal replacement strike force of Dixon and Speedie that we recruiteded would be worth around £17M. *shudders* Remind me which genius recruited them....? MLT for me. He was priceless. Ron Davies comes a close second because allegedly (after the 4-1 win at Old trafford) Sir Matt offfered Ted Bates an open cheque and told him to fill in whatever he wanted. Interesting thought on Keegan (and others). What sometimes dictate their value in a transfer is the prgressive rise in fees as they move from club to club approaching their peak. Take Damiao for example. If we buy him for £7m and sell him at his peak we would probably be happy with £20m. But if we pay £25m for him now, you would not take less than £35m at this peak would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 MLT. Fact was money could not buy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 osher williams and tim coak...priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Matt Le Tissier in his prime. Imagine if he had spent his career on modern diet regimes, training regimens...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianSaint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Has to be Rickie Lambert, £1 million and has earned the club £100 million in getting us to the premier league with this goals, you could also make the argument that the million spent on Lambert could have been one of the most important signings any club has made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Could have been Ronnie Ekelund, if he had been with us in full health for a season or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Sir Ted Bates End of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 5 July, 2013 Share Posted 5 July, 2013 Could have been Ronnie Ekelund, if he had been with us in full health for a season or two Was only ever on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 Has to be Rickie Lambert, £1 million and has earned the club £100 million in getting us to the premier league with this goals, you could also make the argument that the million spent on Lambert could have been one of the most important signings any club has made This is good. By what do we mean valuable? Lickie has been, in real terms, the most valuable saints player of all time. MLT for keeping us up at least four maybe six seasons, got to be worth a few bob. Money/sky was different then obviously, but had we sold him to man u or whoever he probably would have broken any English transfer record. Who would, nay *should* command the highest fee as a player? Bale. Simply put the best footballer in the world right now, outside messi n neyhmar.* Ron Davis, by all accounts, would also be in the reckoning. Too young to have seen him myself, but old enough to recognise the ardent and genuine admiration in those who did. Sent from my cracked and broken Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 Matt Le Tissier in his prime. Imagine if he had spent his career on modern diet regimes, training regimens...... i suspect he would still not get a decent sniff of an england gane even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 Ron Davies without a doubt for me - I have never ever seen a better header of a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 Was only ever on loan Another one who cant understand the word "if" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 Alan Shearer is probably the right answer - think he we sold him for a British record which tells it's own story. Didn't we sign Peter Osgood in 1974, for a then British record? In which case that would then make him the most valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 Ron Davies without a doubt for me - I have never ever seen a better header of a ball. I was a great fan of Big Ron and take nothing away from his impact at the time. However I wonder how he would have got on in todays game. Ron was relatively tall (and a good leaper) at a time when central defenders were not 6' - 6'4" giants of today. That said I would rate his all round game higher than Andy Carroll and look what he has cost Liverpool and West Ham. My vote goes the Keegan for his all round game I never saw Charlie Wayman play but many people of my Dad's generation reckon he had pace, control and goal scoring ability at a time when the game was not so easy to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
influx Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Another one who cant understand the word "if" Pedants don't see detail, they only see opportunities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintquin Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Ted Drake went to Arsenal for a big fee at the time I think! Matt, Sheerer, Keegan, Osgood, William (Steve) and many more I think would have gone for very big money. We really have been lucky to have had lots of great players at (small club) Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Le Taxi Posted 7 July, 2013 Share Posted 7 July, 2013 Keegan by a country mile! ....how much would the current European player of the year cost today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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