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Everyone turns up in older shirts with stripes for the first home game of the season (Sunderland)? Shows that we do want them back but doesn't 'harm the club' as some people have put it....?

 

Just an idea....

 

No, what a stupid idea.

 

I honestly do not understand why anyone cares what the team wear? So long as the team exists, is playing good football and so on, who cares. They could wear a pink shirt with 'TY" on it for all I care. Okay, maybe not, but you know what I mean.

 

I've only ever bought 2 Saints shirts - the grey FlyBe one a few years back (was good for the gym) and the Sash shirt as it was a proper one-off. I don't get why people want to wear horrible pieces of tight-fitting nylon and why people are so worried about it. Christ, be individual.

 

It. Is. Just. A. Football. Shirt.

Posted
Deppo will be back tomorrow. His latest incarnation is even more badly disguised than Jamies.

 

I had him down as Deppo pretty much straight away as well and I'm usually rubbish at that kind of thing. I actually believed Brett from Camden for a while.

Posted
No, what a stupid idea.

 

I honestly do not understand why anyone cares what the team wear? So long as the team exists, is playing good football and so on, who cares. They could wear a pink shirt with 'TY" on it for all I care. Okay, maybe not, but you know what I mean.

 

I've only ever bought 2 Saints shirts - the grey FlyBe one a few years back (was good for the gym) and the Sash shirt as it was a proper one-off. I don't get why people want to wear horrible pieces of tight-fitting nylon and why people are so worried about it. Christ, be individual.

 

It. Is. Just. A. Football. Shirt.

 

Lies. There is video footage of you at Saints v Everton game in 1997 wearing a shirt in the Milton road end clapping and chanting 'the saints are staying up'

 

FACT

Posted
Everyone turns up in older shirts with stripes for the first home game of the season (Sunderland)? Shows that we do want them back but doesn't 'harm the club' as some people have put it....?

 

Just an idea....

 

I'm already doing that all season long, starting with my oldest shirt and working forwards. Was going to do it last year, but someone won one and I bought it off them. I doubt that'll happen this time.

 

The short launch day queues for the shirt compared to last year are a promising sign that fans are not at all keen on this particular style of shirt even though it's our first ever adidas one which you'd think would be a selling point.

Posted
I do wonder where the "why aren't the shorts blue, our traditional short colour is blue, you know the famous Saints blue shorts, you think Saints and you think blue shorts, why aren't they on this kit" brigade have appeared from.

 

Season after season, year after year. From Hummel to Admiral to Pony to the Lowe years to Umbro.

 

Never mentioned. Not once.

 

Funny now people suddenly engineering a "tradition" that we are city and world renowned for wearing blue shorts.

 

Funny, aint it?

 

Equally strange is the suggestion that anyone would even have a problem with us doing that - every time MLG posts "thatwasourtraditionfor50yearswhydon'tyouwantthat" (which is often), I haven't seen a single person say "oh, I wouldn't like that" in response.

 

Navy shorts looks decent, there's an historical precedent, and if it got me the stripes back I'd be more than happy. It would also shut up some of the "we look like Sunderland" brigade, though I'm not sure the "we look like Stoke" lot would be affected as they haven't yet noticed that Stoke play in all white with red stripes and we've never done that anyway.

 

Chivas know how to do a red/white/navy thing, though they have (also) gone to red shorts this season...

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Posted
I'm not making a point about money. It will be bought because people support the team, not the shirt.

 

Whilst we have worn red/white stripes and black shorts predominantly, for the first 50 years as Southampton we had blue shorts so you could argue that is the most traditional. In the 1980's (arguably our most successful period) there was hardly a stripe in sight.

 

Every shirt we wore in the 1980s other than the plain red Anniversary kit ("Patrick Red") was striped in some fashion, and in a way that is more than just the token pinstripe effort of last season and none of them other than the "Patrick Red" were completely stripeless like this season's plain red. That is not "hardly a stripe in sight". Both the Denmark style Hummel shirt and the Rank Xerox were striped, and all the other shirts were conventionally striped. Also, all of them came with black shorts and (usually) white socks.

Posted
Every shirt we wore in the 1980s other than the plain red Anniversary kit ("Patrick Red") was striped in some fashion, and in a way that is more than just the token pinstripe effort of last season and none of them other than the "Patrick Red" were completely stripeless like this season's plain red. That is not "hardly a stripe in sight". Both the Denmark style Hummel shirt and the Rank Xerox were striped, and all the other shirts were conventionally striped. Also, all of them came with black shorts and (usually) white socks.

 

I guess it depends on your definition of stripes:

 

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Southampton/Southampton.htm

Posted
'Hardly a stripe in sight' during the eighties? We played in stripes for six years... Y'know - one colour, different colour, different colour, etc....

 

you could say the new kit is one big stripe. leaving just enough for white bits on the sleeve

Posted
you could say the new kit is one big stripe. leaving just enough for white bits on the sleeve

 

You could say that, Delldays.

 

You could definitely say that.

Posted
And it maintains your reputation as a poster of fine insight. Jolly well done.

 

thanks. cant wait for you to tell us all (AGAIN) that FC is a loon (IN YOUR OPINION). they are equally insightful as never got the point the last 3576 times

Posted
thanks. cant wait for you to tell us all (AGAIN) that FC is a loon (IN YOUR OPINION). they are equally insightful as never got the point the last 3576 times

 

TDD you've had one opinion about this kit. Exactly the same as last year's opinion. Hasn't stopped you posting it something a little more than twice.

 

Do remind us of it again tomorrow, sweetheart.

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TDD you've had one opinion about this kit. Exactly the same as last year's opinion. Hasn't stopped you posting it something a little more than twice.

 

Do remind us of it again tomorrow, sweetheart.

 

are you talking to me or a mirror

 

:uhoh:

Posted
'Hardly a stripe in sight' during the eighties? We played in stripes for six years... Y'know - one colour, different colour, different colour, etc....

 

Oh, like Arsenal?

Posted (edited)
Name a professional English team that has had the same style kit and colours for their entire history.

 

Alright big nose - beat this.

 

Stalybridge Celtic

 

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Stalybridge_Celtic/Stalybridge_Celtic.htm

 

 

OOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH

 

The Stalybridge Celtic to which you refer are not a "professional English team", they were a professional English team.

 

And don't call me big nose...!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahg2GVWHGKY

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Posted
Stalybridge Celtic are not a "professional English team", they were a professional English team.

 

You didn't specify tense.

 

Point to Tokyo.

Posted
wat if man uniteds switched red/white stripes? they'd be just fine with that

 

I'm sure Middlesborough would love it. As would Bristol City, Arsenal.

 

Oh could you imagine Liverpool in stripes!? The scousers would have a field day!!!!

 

#saveourscouse

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It's fair to say that most clubs have had the same style and colours of shirts for the vast majority of their history. In 100 odd years plus there is inevidtably going to be some dabbling and changes but very few clubs have changed style in their recent history.

Posted
So if I asked "Name a Premier League team?", and someone said "Barnsley" you would accept that as a correct answer?

 

As for their entire life in the premier league had only consisted of one kit. Yes.

 

If you live by pedantry, you will die by pedantry my friend. ;)

Posted
I'm sure Middlesborough would love it. As would Bristol City, Arsenal.

 

Oh could you imagine Liverpool in stripes!? The scousers would have a field day!!!!

 

#saveourscouse

 

* opens book of condolences *

Posted
It's fair to say that most clubs have had the same style and colours of shirts for the vast majority of their history. In 100 odd years plus there is inevidtably going to be some dabbling and changes but very few clubs have changed style in their recent history.

 

Indeed Turkish.... you seem to be in fairly lucid form today.....

Posted

Oh could you imagine Liverpool in stripes!? The scousers would have a field day!!!!

 

#saveourscouse

 

Liverpool have only worn an all red kit since 1965 and they have had forms of stripes in the past.

Posted

Adidas stripes for 4 years as a design feature and pinstripes for 3.

 

Yep. Stripes are as scouse as benefit manipulation and hub cap liberation.

(Sorry Pap......)

Posted
Wow ONLY since 1965?

 

Only for the entire lifetime of the majority of their supporters. And they have ONLY worn red shirts.... well for 117 years. I'm sure the oldest woman alive in Japan longs for the day when her beloved liverpool started out in skyblue/white halves.

Posted (edited)
Wow ONLY since 1965?

 

Only for the entire lifetime of the majority of their supporters. And they have ONLY worn red shirts.... well for 117 years. I'm sure the oldest woman alive in Japan longs for the day when her beloved liverpool started out in skyblue/white halves.

 

For every "tradition" there has to be a starting point and "tradtions" change, alot.

 

For Liverpool all red kit = 1965

For Leeds all white kit = 1960

For Crystal Palace red/blue kits and eagle badge = 1973

 

Maybe Southampton all red kits "tradition" starting point = 2013

- and in 50 years time of all red Saints kits that will be viewed as the traditional Saints kit by most of the fanbase.

Edited by Matthew Le God
Posted
For every "tradition" there is a a starting point.

 

For Liverpool all red kit = 1965

For Leeds all white kit = 1960

For Crystal Palace red/blue kits and eagle badge = 1973

 

Maybe Southampton all red kits = 2012

- and in 50 years time of all red Saints kits that will be viewed as the traditional Saints kit by most of the fanbase.

 

"Tradtions" change, alot.

 

When did Liverpool play in stripes?

Posted
and in 50 years time of all red Saints kits that will be viewed as the traditional Saints kit by most of the fanbase.

 

Should we play in them for 50 years. Yes.

 

It's 2013 though. And a lot of people do not want a new 'starting point.'

 

Tradition has already been established.

Posted
1982 to 1984

 

Did they?

 

So was out kit last season stripes or was that the start of our "all red" traditon, like you said it was in post 142?

Posted (edited)
Pinstripes, there is a clue in the name.

 

so youre saying this kit is stripes

 

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but this kit is the start of an all red, plain shirt traditon which began in 2012, yes?

 

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Posted
Should we play in them for 50 years. Yes.

 

It's 2013 though. And a lot of people do not want a new 'starting point.'

 

Tradition has already been established.

 

A lot of Leeds fans in 1960 probably didn't want to move to an all white kit. You have to get over that initial hurdle of it being a new idea and not tradtional and stick with it for it to then become "traditional". I'm sure you consider Leeds traditional kit to be all white don't you? But if they didn't take that first step of a change in 1960 then you wouldn't.

Posted
A lot of Leeds fans in 1960 probably didn't want to move to an all white kit. You have to get over that initial hurdle of it being a new idea and not tradtional and stick with it for it to then become "traditional". I'm sure you consider Leeds traditional kit to be all white don't you? But if they didn't take that first step of a change in 1960 then you wouldn't.

 

Leeds United's identity is to play in all white. That is their tradition now... as per your point earlier regarding a new start as undertaken by Don Revie.

 

In my lifetime Saints have predominantly played in red and White stripes. As they have in yours, that is the colours I associate with Saints. I want to continue associating them with Saints. I do not want a change. A change is needless. You are dealing with this is raw logical terms..... I do not, that is the difference between us.

 

I will never accept all red as being Saints and I will never support another club.

Posted
For every "tradition" there has to be a starting point and "tradtions" change, alot.

 

For Liverpool all red kit = 1965

For Leeds all white kit = 1960

For Crystal Palace red/blue kits and eagle badge = 1973

 

Maybe Southampton all red kits "tradition" starting point = 2013

- and in 50 years time of all red Saints kits that will be viewed as the traditional Saints kit by most of the fanbase.

So you agree that red and white stripes are Saints' traditional home kit? But cannot give a reason for changing from tradition? For how long had the previous traditional Leeds and Liverpool kits been running for?

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