OfnPanad Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 After some time to adjust to the shock...it hasn't grown on me. Home kit just looks like jammies. Away kit looks like it needs a tie. Poop.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 The training kit has the black badges on white and white badges on black. Those with the same colour, 'embossed' style logo is the official club travel wear.
Miltonaggro Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 great minds and that, I just came in to say the same thing. The Denmark kit is by no means perfect, but is still a billion times better than our abortion. Would have been a throwback to the second Patrick kit. Much more acceptable...
The9 Posted 25 July, 2013 Posted 25 July, 2013 I like the Denmark women's kit but it's still no kind of Saints shirt.
rick1976.4.38 Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 I think south china are wearing a saints kit today against spurs dreadful kit,oh for our stripes
CB Fry Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Just seen the South China kit. How lazy. Not lazy. The masterplan. 300m new fans in South China by the end of our first home game.
dubai_phil Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Not lazy. The masterplan. 300m new fans in South China by the end of our first home game. Which is why we have to expand the airport so they can all fly in for home games (Mind you SC's kit did look less "Orange" than ours)
doubleonothing Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 But the SC kit looks like Addidas spent more time designing it. (Different colours on the colour). Looks a bit better with white shorts, but if we had that we'd look like a knock off Arsenal. As it is, we have knock off South China shirts! Ours does look slightly better without the sponsor as per the U21's
The9 Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 But the SC kit looks like Adidas spent more time designing it. It looks like they spent exactly the same time designing it to me - how long do you think it takes to produce 3 or 4 different combinations of a template ? All the pieces are in the same place, they just said "put some navy on that piece under the arms" where Saints just have more red. One thing I've noticed, the Sunderland shirt looks much better on than the pictures suggested - still has a bad-looking sponsor though.
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 I still don't understand why NC didn't just give us a striped shirt. He keeps bleating on about creating a positive vibe in all sections of the club so why not give the fans what they want... Or does he not regard the fans as an important part of the club? Would it really have been too much to ask?
Steeleye Saint Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 The white bits on the sleeves look like they've been sewn on as an afterthought! Very poor.
landford.saint Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Went into Southampton today for the first time since shirts were released. Only saw 2 young kids wearing the new shirts. Saw far more last season, striped and sash shirts. First time had seen new shirts 'live' as it were, do look cheap and tacky. Last year saw the then new shirts in Salisbury where I work, on release date, not seen one in all this time this year. Sales must be down surely. I wonder if perhaps next time the club will listen to the fans for once.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Went into Southampton today for the first time since shirts were released. Only saw 2 young kids wearing the new shirts. Saw far more last season, striped and sash shirts. First time had seen new shirts 'live' as it were, do look cheap and tacky. Last year saw the then new shirts in Salisbury where I work, on release date, not seen one in all this time this year. Sales must be down surely. I wonder if perhaps next time the club will listen to the fans for once. They can only listen if enough noise is made. #ahem# http://www.save-our-stripes.co.uk/
CB Fry Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 They can only listen if enough noise is made. #ahem# http://www.save-our-stripes.co.uk/ Been wearing yours much?
Saints foreva Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Went into Southampton today for the first time since shirts were released. Only saw 2 young kids wearing the new shirts. Saw far more last season, striped and sash shirts. First time had seen new shirts 'live' as it were, do look cheap and tacky. Last year saw the then new shirts in Salisbury where I work, on release date, not seen one in all this time this year. Sales must be down surely. I wonder if perhaps next time the club will listen to the fans for once. Doubt it.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Been wearing yours much? It is filed away with the rest of the collection, thankyou for asking. Incidentally, If you know of anyone selling an original air florida shirt, do let me know.
CB Fry Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 It is filed away with the rest of the collection, thankyou for asking. Fight the power. An example to us all. Actually, no, sorry. To no one.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 (edited) Fight the power. An example to us all. Actually, no, sorry. To no one. Such a shame some people are so small minded. However: No, i'm not an example to anyone. I have never stated that I am, I just want the stripes to return. I also know I am not alone in that and have wanted to at least try something to raise the profile of that. Do you want the stripes to return or are you part of the still numerically significant (albeit still a minority) who like the new kit? Edited 27 July, 2013 by Colinjb
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Such a shame some people are so small minded. However: No, i'm not an example to anyone. I have never stated that I am, I just want the stripes to return. I also know I am not alone in that and have wanted to at least try something to raise the profile of that. Do you want the stripes to return or are you part of the still numerically significant (albeit still a minority) who like the new kit? It's ridiculous campaigning against something, when you're not doing the one thing that would actually make a difference for your "campaign".
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 (edited) It's ridiculous campaigning against something, when you're not doing the one thing that would actually make a difference for your "campaign". You assume that it's all on me. It's not, I am trying to aid facilitate something the majority want. I personally am nothing as far as the campaign is concerned... it's about the majority desire for the shirt design to revert to stripes. Any personal attack on me is meaningless. What is your opinion on the new shirt Sour Mash? Edited 27 July, 2013 by Colinjb
um pahars Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Just drove by someone wearing the shirt, and feck me it really is horrible!
B Rabbit Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 I cannot believe this is 20 odd pages long.... And even more ridiculous are Facebook pages and other helmets doing campaigns about a sodding football shirt. It is a sodding game where people ping a ball around the grass...and grown men on here are genuinely angry, upset and wound up about whether or not we are playing in stripes or plain red. Get a grip you bunch of utter cretins. I don't like the kit but it's not going to make me lose sleep and get vocal about it! Complete lemons some of you.
dubai_phil Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Just drove by someone wearing the shirt, and feck me it really is horrible! Yep. And of course, we will all be desperately trying to buy one after the last game of this season after we have Qualified for the CL wearing them....................
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 You assume that it's all on me. It's not, I am trying to aid facilitate something the majority want. I personally am nothing as far as the campaign is concerned... it's about the majority desire for the shirt design to revert to stripes. Any personal attack on me is meaningless. What is your opinion on the new shirt Sour Mash? I think it's cr@p, ugly, cheap looking and not Saints. Luckily most Saints fans are actually boycotting it, so at least some will hopefully make a difference.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 I cannot believe this is 20 odd pages long.... And even more ridiculous are Facebook pages and other helmets doing campaigns about a sodding football shirt. It is a sodding game where people ping a ball around the grass...and grown men on here are genuinely angry, upset and wound up about whether or not we are playing in stripes or plain red. Get a grip you bunch of utter cretins. I don't like the kit but it's not going to make me lose sleep and get vocal about it! Complete lemons some of you. We'll file you in the 'don't care' column then B Rabbit. Is that ok? 14% is still a lot of people.
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 I cannot believe this is 20 odd pages long.... And even more ridiculous are Facebook pages and other helmets doing campaigns about a sodding football shirt. It is a sodding game where people ping a ball around the grass...and grown men on here are genuinely angry, upset and wound up about whether or not we are playing in stripes or plain red. Get a grip you bunch of utter cretins. I don't like the kit but it's not going to make me lose sleep and get vocal about it! Complete lemons some of you. Don't think anyone is losing sleep over it. I can't believe there are grown men out there that rant and rage on a forum about other men they've never met complaining about a football shirt, all typed out in a lovely orange font. Strange old world aint it.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 (edited) I think it's cr@p, ugly, cheap looking and not Saints. Luckily most Saints fans are actually boycotting it, so at least some will hopefully make a difference. Fingers crossed. I want to look on my collection in years to come and see this as a blip. No certainties though. I do wonder what financial impact a shirt boycott would actually have. 20,000 sales with £30 profit every time yields £600k. It's nothing really compared to the premier league money. Hopefully though it is still regarded by NC as significant. Makes me wonder about the true motivation of the design change though... and that it happened as soon as we got to the Premier League when other income streams are more significant. Edited 27 July, 2013 by Colinjb
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Fingers crossed. I want to look on my collection in years to come and see this as a blip. No certainties though. I do wonder what financial impact a shirt boycott would actually have. 20,000 sales with £30 profit every time yields £600k. It's nothing really compared to the premier league money. Possibly. I'm not sure what the commercial relationship with Adidas would be and their views on very poor sales. Also when trying to negotiate for a new sponsor, as a sponsor I would ask to see last year's kit sales as one of the things that will reflect the level of coverage my brand would get - wouldn't be very impressive if the figure was well below the market average.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Possibly. I'm not sure what the commercial relationship with Adidas would be and their views on very poor sales. Also when trying to negotiate for a new sponsor, as a sponsor I would ask to see last year's kit sales as one of the things that will reflect the level of coverage my brand would get - wouldn't be very impressive if the figure was well below the market average. True. The mobile billboard on worldwide tv element may outweigh the visibility around southampton angle though. I fear that shirt sales and therefore fan desire is irrelevant. This is however contradicted by the exposure given to the shirt launches.
DuncanRG Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 No certainties though. I do wonder what financial impact a shirt boycott would actually have. 20,000 sales with £30 profit every time yields £600k. It's nothing really compared to the premier league money. They'll still want to have it. Comparing it to what is the club's biggest source of income by a factor of 10 isn't really fair. If the club saw a drop of 20,000 they would react.
CB Fry Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 (edited) I do wonder what financial impact a shirt boycott would actually have. 20,000 sales with £30 profit every time yields £600k. It's nothing really compared to the premier league money. . Put it this way. Every person that doesn't buy it has done a hundred times more to force change for next season than anything you've done, which mainly amounted to scuttling down the Saints shop at the first available minute to hoover one up. Edited 27 July, 2013 by CB Fry
dubai_phil Posted 27 July, 2013 Posted 27 July, 2013 Serious question. South China. Their's seemed to be a more Red red than ours. How was that possible?
Colinjb Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 (edited) Put it this way. Every person that doesn't buy it has done a hundred times more to force change for next season than anything you've done, which mainly amounted to scuttling down the Saints shop at the first available minute to hoover one up. CB Fry, what is your opinion on the shirt? And why the lack of civility? Reading between the lines you don't like the deviation from stripes. Neither do I. Yet, you feel the need to attack me because I am a collector of Saints kits and you feel that makes my stance hypocritical? It really is a shame if that's the case because there is no point in being so hostile if we both want the same thing. Edited 28 July, 2013 by Colinjb
The9 Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 I cannot believe this is 20 odd pages long.... And even more ridiculous are Facebook pages and other helmets doing campaigns about a sodding football shirt. It is a sodding game where people ping a ball around the grass...and grown men on here are genuinely angry, upset and wound up about whether or not we are playing in stripes or plain red. Get a grip you bunch of utter cretins. I don't like the kit but it's not going to make me lose sleep and get vocal about it! Complete lemons some of you. Yeah, that always makes stuff happen, telling people not to complain about something you don't like. I assume you're planning on using telepathy to inform the club of your displeasure ?
The9 Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 CB Fry, what is your opinion on the shirt? And why the lack of civility? Reading between the lines you don't like the deviation from stripes. Neither do I. Yet, you feel the need to attack me because I am a collector of Saints kits and you feel that makes my stance hypocritical? It really is a shame if that's the case because there is no point in being so hostile if we both want the same thing. He might be being offensive about it, but he does have a point. I'm more likely to sell the rest of my collection than I am buy this one to add to it.
diggers Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 Just finished watching Houston Chicago boring 1-1 draw and even Houston now adopted the crap template but in orange/white. Still looks cheap though.
Right sider Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 I must admit I have a gap in my collection. I have every home shirt from 1976 onwards, but will not be buying this. I preferred the south China version. It is the gold that makes it look tacky
bender Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 I like the Denmark women's kit but it's still no kind of Saints shirt. I would clatter number 21. The rest probably not/
del boy Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 I must admit I have a gap in my collection. I have every home shirt from 1976 onwards, but will not be buying this. I preferred the south China version. It is the gold that makes it look tacky I wouldn't mind if some effort had gone into it and after careful consideration of a wide ranging design short list they'd chosen this - I.e. it was just down to poor taste but its worse than that.. Just feels like the club looking down on the fans and saying "we know its a cheap £15 standard issue shirt but we can't be arsed to do anything else - well just buy the cheapest and charge as much as we can" it makes last years look good now!
Batman Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 I wouldn't mind if some effort had gone into it and after careful consideration of a wide ranging design short list they'd chosen this - I.e. it was just down to poor taste but its worse than that.. Just feels like the club looking down on the fans and saying "we know its a cheap £15 standard issue shirt but we can't be arsed to do anything else - well just buy the cheapest and charge as much as we can" it makes last years look good now! please, what football shirt doesnt look cheap?
Sour Mash Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 please, what football shirt doesnt look cheap? Do genuinely like our new home kit?
Batman Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 Do genuinely like our new home kit? its alright. not as good as others, better than many.
Colinjb Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 (edited) He might be being offensive about it, but he does have a point. I'm more likely to sell the rest of my collection than I am buy this one to add to it. I do understand the perceived contradiction, I do. The club will be losing a sale from me this year though as I have only bought one, not the usual two. There is no need to buy a new one to back up the one I have worn (and due to their poor quality, damaged) through the season as I will not be wearing it, just filing it away. Being offensive towards me when we do both want the same thing is so utterly futile! Human nature is baffling at times. Edited 28 July, 2013 by Colinjb
CB Fry Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 I do understand the perceived contradiction, I do. The club will be losing a sale from me this year though as I have only bought one, not the usual two. There is no need to buy a new one to back up the one I have worn (and due to their poor quality, damaged) through the season as I will not be wearing it, just filing it away. Being offensive towards me when we do both want the same thing is so utterly futile! Human nature is baffling at times. Where have I been offensive exactly? If you like you can register your disgust with me by protesting in your usual fashion. Wire me fifty quid, I'll PM you my bank details.
Colinjb Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 Where have I been offensive exactly? If you like you can register your disgust with me by protesting in your usual fashion. Wire me fifty quid, I'll PM you my bank details. Your tone is clear. You obviously think of me with quite some level of contempt. Describing me as 'scuttling' to the club shop and being extremely snide. However, don't we both want the same thing? There is common ground here and I am not going to go to the level of being rude towards you. Life is too short.
doubleonothing Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 @strictgentlemen: BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE KIT SPECIAL: 5 BEST KITS FOR THE UPCOMING SEASON http://t.co/uLuvmAwN4i As re-tweeted by Wanyama. The away kit features, sadly the home doesn't - wonder why?
SW11_Saint Posted 28 July, 2013 Posted 28 July, 2013 It is a sodding game where people ping a ball around the grass... You couldn't have said anything better to illustrate your total and utter lack of passion for the game, or the club...
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