Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Sorry, perhaps I should have said something like " the many thousands observed wearing Saints Red and White stripes on any home matchday" , but they were too many to count. I wouldn't say those wearing red and white at SMS for home games were doing so as a protest at the kit. They are our colours which is why people are wearing red and white. Just as this years full kit has both red and white. Ok, more red. But more white than last years and it still looks smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Come on Charlie, you've been an mboarder long enough to know that todays 'outrage' will be tomorrows tuts, followed by next weeks 'fastest selling shirt in history' propoganda on the OS and on the first day of the season SMS will be awash with fat men in football shirts. Bit confusing though that the outrage is because of no stripes and then loads of people are saying a slightly edited version without stripes would be perfect. Even for the mboard, this is just odd. What is wrong with the kit? Is it stripes, is it gold, is it just because Cortese is at Saints or because most people would rather moan than just say it is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Bit confusing though that the outrage is because of no stripes and then loads of people are saying a slightly edited version without stripes would be perfect. Even for the mboard, this is just odd. What is wrong with the kit? Is it stripes, is it gold, is it just because Cortese is at Saints or because most people would rather moan than just say it is ok. What is wrong with this kit? Is it the stripes? Yes or the lack of them. Is it the gold? Yes what have we won? Is it because no one had a say in this after last years balls up? Yes indeed so as it speaks volumes of no one listening to the fanbase, what other company would do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Bit confusing though that the outrage is because of no stripes and then loads of people are saying a slightly edited version without stripes would be perfect. Even for the mboard, this is just odd. What is wrong with the kit? Is it stripes, is it gold, is it just because Cortese is at Saints or because most people would rather moan than just say it is ok. If you just accept the kit as it is, the next step is the club will be relocated to Gloucestershire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 If you just accept the kit as it is, the next step is the club will be relocated to Gloucestershire. no problem as Gloucestershire is still in our catchment area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 If you just accept the kit as it is, the next step is the club will be relocated to Gloucestershire. True. I will email Clotese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 no problem as Gloucestershire is still in our catchment area. true , but word of warning don't wear the kit around Bristol Rovers , as we've copied City's kit. despite the fact "we don't follow, we lead and others follow our example" according to the pathetic season ticket pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 true , but word of warning don't wear the kit around Bristol Rovers , as we've copied City's kit. despite the fact "we don't follow, we lead and others follow our example" according to the pathetic season ticket pack. Good point. In all seriousness, thats the issue for me, not the stripes, but the fact so many of the kits today are generic. And that is mostly Adidas's fault surely? Look at all their kits and they are generic templates, not just ours. A shame really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Still if you can't afford £50 there is always this for £17.99. http://www.prodirectsoccer.com/mobile/products/60786.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Still if you can't afford £50 there is always this for £17.99. http://www.prodirectsoccer.com/mobile/products/60786.aspx Even cheaper here mate http://www.clublinefootball.com/adidas_tiro_13_football_short_sleeve_shirt_red_white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I wouldn't say those wearing red and white at SMS for home games were doing so as a protest at the kit. They are our colours which is why people are wearing red and white. Just as this years full kit has both red and white. Ok, more red. But more white than last years and it still looks smart. I'm not saying it doesn't look smart. I'm saying it looks more like Arsenal, and definitely NOT Southampton. Pity you don't live in Cardiff. I expect you would have applauded their change from their traditional Blue to Red, just on a whim of their Eastern owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Even cheaper here mate http://www.clublinefootball.com/adidas_tiro_13_football_short_sleeve_shirt_red_white Just buy a new gold saints badge, and you've saved yourself a mint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Love the kit both home and away, my 9 year old son loves it as well! Pretty fair to say we love it!! In the minority again, story of my bloody life lol!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Luckily, I won't be traipsing around Southampton seeing bloody stripes all over the place!!! Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 True. I will email Clotese. Cortese's in Cheltenham, with a large tape measure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfnPanad Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I'll be buying the plain one for £13. What a rip off. Some decisions are right, some are subjective, this is wrong. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I'm not saying it doesn't look smart. I'm saying it looks more like Arsenal, and definitely NOT Southampton. Pity you don't live in Cardiff. I expect you would have applauded their change from their traditional Blue to Red, just on a whim of their Eastern owners Come on! Changing from red to blue is hardly comparable with reducing the amount of white in a red and white kit. A complete change like that is obviously ludicrous and rightly Cardiff fans don't like it. But look below, there are people who like our new kit and it is better than last years IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I'll be buying the plain one for £13. What a rip off. Some decisions are right, some are subjective, this is wrong. Fact. Fair enough. What decision is wrong? The price or the design? The price I agree is crazy, but is the going rate for kits and largely decided by Adidas Im sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Come on! Changing from red to blue is hardly comparable with reducing the amount of white in a red and white kit. A complete change like that is obviously ludicrous and rightly Cardiff fans don't like it. But look below, there are people who like our new kit and it is better than last years IMO. It could be made out of Gold Lame for all I care The point is It isn't SAINTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Even cheaper here mate http://www.clublinefootball.com/adidas_tiro_13_football_short_sleeve_shirt_red_white "Tiro 13 shirts make a strong statement before a ball is kicked" ...the statement being "We can't really be bothered about getting a stylish and unique look that epitomises the Southampton Way so we'll go for a cheap off the peg adidas template design that won't cost much" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 "Tiro 13 shirts make a strong statement before a ball is kicked" ...the statement being "We can't really be bothered about getting a stylish and unique look that epitomises the Southampton Way so we'll go for a cheap off the peg adidas template design that won't cost much" Saints have neither the scale or the marketability to have a unique or bespoke design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 It could be made out of Gold Lame for all I care The point is It isn't SAINTS i think Charlie is struggling to understand this point, he keeps labouring on that it "looks good" but it isn't a saints shirt, simple as that. i refer to the poll at the top of the page, a resounding agreement that this is not what the fans wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I agree that we are generally red and white stripes. but clearly (as the 80s and other mini eras show) not exclusively Red, white and BLACK. Other past combinations - even when they have strayed away from the traditional stripes - have stayed with that colour palette, and are always therefore identifiable as 'Saints kits'. That is the other big difference here. The lack of originality and the blandness of this paltry effort just add insult to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Luckily, I won't be traipsing around Southampton seeing bloody stripes all over the place!!! Sweet! Good for you. The last hundred odd years must have been just terrible for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Saints have neither the scale or the marketability to have a unique or bespoke design. on what basis are you qualified to make this statement? can you give us an example of teams that do and teams that don't to explain why and where the cut off point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Leeds played in blue and white, then blue, before Don Revie changed it to the all white we now associate with them. This looks like the one from about '85, not one of my favourites but better than some of the striped efforts we've had over the years. Last years grow on me and I hope this one will as well. At the end of the day, the thing that ****es me off, isn't the kit design but the price and the constant renewing of kits every season.The design is just opinions and the sales figures will indicate popularity in the club's eyes not a poll of people signed up on here. There will be 3 groups; People who don't like it, but buy it anyway. People who like it and buy it, and people who don't like it but would have bought it had it been striped. Until the third group outweigh the first two the club wont give a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 on what basis are you qualified to make this statement? can you give us an example of teams that do and teams that don't to explain why and where the cut off point is? One clue is that you can only buy the shirt in a Saints Megastore on or online via the website. Other clubs have shirts in every Sports store worldwide. As far as Adidas goes we are small time. We might sell 30k shirts. A few teams will sell millions worldwide - they might well have more time spent on them. Saying that, Chelsea and Swansea had the same template last year, and the year Chelsea won the CL they had the same shirt as Peterborough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylambert Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I'll buy the socks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I'll buy the socks They are 6.99 on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzybear Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I'm gonna like this kit a whole lot more if the 2013/14 season proves to be a successful season. As it stands at the moment though, I'm not sold on it. Just for the record, for those who's memories stretch back that far, what were your initial views when the '80's kits first came out. These of course broke away from the traditional stripes, did you think it was sacrilege then? I grew up only knowing them ( my first kit being the mid-eighties draper tools kit) so it seemed normal to me at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 One clue is that you can only buy the shirt in a Saints Megastore on or online via the website. Other clubs have shirts in every Sports store worldwide. As far as Adidas goes we are small time. We might sell 30k shirts. A few teams will sell millions worldwide - they might well have more time spent on them. Saying that, Chelsea and Swansea had the same template last year, and the year Chelsea won the CL they had the same shirt as Peterborough! it was a decision made a few years ago when we took sales "in house" not to stock it elsewhere, this allows the club to control the supply and price of the product, unlike the England kit that ends up being reduced to £10 in Sports Direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Quite shocking isn't it. I don't mind the shirt, as a football top, but charging £50 for ironing on a badge and sponsor to an existing shirt is disgusting. Better off sewing on a saints badge and having a sponsorless shirt that looks up to date. It's nothing new though. You have always been able to buy amateur shirt templates minus the club specific stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 it was a decision made a few years ago when we took sales "in house" not to stock it elsewhere, this allows the club to control the supply and price of the product, unlike the England kit that ends up being reduced to £10 in Sports Direct. Yeah the Eng kits get knocked down very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Did we get Name Checked? If not I refuse to believe a single word of that article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Did we get Name Checked? If not I refuse to believe a single word of that article. It explicitly says Saintsweb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 (edited) Its says Barry Sanchez is not happy and neither are 60% of Saints fans with the new kit, the clappers are bells and Cortese does not listen to the clubs supporters, it went on and said Bazza is a love God and adored by the women of Equador and Nepal.................... Edited 28 June, 2013 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 The more I see the Gold, the more sick of the sight of it I get. Also those feckin sanitary towel things under the arm pits - what is the point? I earlier asked if anybody knows if there will be a long sleeved version available, or are ovwerseas players going to have elbow length gloves during the winter? I can't imagine just how bad the Dr Whites attachment thing will look on long sleeves, but could one of you techy types do one just to confirm my fears!! PS - the Photo shopped white badges/sponsor motif were 10 times better than the naff gold effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 it was a decision made a few years ago when we took sales "in house" not to stock it elsewhere, this allows the club to control the supply and price of the product, unlike the England kit that ends up being reduced to £10 in Sports Direct. How long ago are we talking? When I was a kid, you couldn't find Southampton shirts in any of the major sports retailers, even in Southampton and I am 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Its says Barry Sanchez is not happy and neither are 60% of Saints fans with the new kit, the clappers are bells and Cortese does not listen to the clubs supporters, it went on and said Bazza is a love God and adored by the women of Equador and Nepal.................... Long Live The Mirror, for they obviously know what they are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 28 June, 2013 it was a decision made a few years ago when we took sales "in house" not to stock it elsewhere, this allows the club to control the supply and price of the product, unlike the England kit that ends up being reduced to £10 in Sports Direct. The in-house sales only policy made sense in the lower leagues as it meant that the profits from a relatively limited scope for sales were retained by the club. Now we're in the top flight and supposedly marketing to a global audience, surely the club should be actively encouraging sales in other retail outlets in order to grow the club's "brand image" That image surely can't expand too much if the club continues to only sell the shirts at St Mary's and West Quay retail outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Southampton Football Club have always been **** at selling themselves, my local shopping centre (speke retail) has a sports direct with all sorts of **** teams in there at knock down bargain prices, where are we when I want to snap up a bargain or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Long Live The Mirror, for they obviously know what they are talking about. Yes Eric I agee they are normally bang on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Yeah the Eng kits get knocked down very quickly. This forum is now pointless - who wants to read you going on and on and ****ing on? I really haven't got the time to trawl through page after page of your ****ing drivel to see if anyone has said something worth reading. Goodbye, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 This forum is now pointless - who wants to read you going on and on and ****ing on? I really haven't got the time to trawl through page after page of your ****ing drivel to see if anyone has said something worth reading. Goodbye, folks. Don't throw a hissy fit because your Agent got sussed out by the Don, Victor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 That white instead of gold mock up is so much better. How can they get it so badly wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 Even cheaper here mate http://www.clublinefootball.com/adidas_tiro_13_football_short_sleeve_shirt_red_white TBF, it is a darker shirt and it's different under the arms. But Bristol City cant be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 That white instead of gold mock up is so much better. How can they get it so badly wrong? Because "the don" is a massive banker and not into haute couture................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bounder Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 June, 2013 Share Posted 28 June, 2013 I like it Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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