alpine_saint Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Australia ahead. Absolutely appalling last hour from England.
Minty Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Understatement Alps... I'm sure there will be more twists and turns to come yet.
dubai_phil Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Shows up Cook badly as Captain, he has a book he Captains by the book. Was blindingly obvious to everyone not just the Sky taters that the plans were not working so what did he do? Kept going. At least it shows that you CAN bat on the pitch, IF you want it enough. England have to now bat 4 sessions AT LEAST and with the sun the pitch should help in the 4th innings. Really poor performance in that last 90 minutes
alpine_saint Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Theyve already added 20 more to the lead. Embarassing.
Minty Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Ignoring the fact that we're English for a mo - i have to be honest and say that Agar has impressed me and I've enjoyed watching him play!
Hatch Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 what is the record score by a number 11 on his debut?
alpine_saint Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 I think hes already got it. and now they have a new WR for the 10th wicket. Wholescale England changes for the 2nd Test beckon.
Lets B Avenue Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Wholescale England changes for the 2nd Test beckon. Nice one, Alps. :lol::lol: Can you also predict a 5-0 series defeat? Please?
OttawaSaint Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Wholescale England changes for the 2nd Test beckon. That's better from Alpine and he's gone!!!
dubai_phil Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Well, I was willing the nipper to get to 3 figures, it would have put the seal on a great Ashes innings. Fair play to him, it was excellent to watch and now England need to get their heads down, see the shine off the new ball and grind out a score.
alpine_saint Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Well, I was willing the nipper to get to 3 figures, it would have put the seal on a great Ashes innings. Fair play to him, it was excellent to watch and now England need to get their heads down, see the shine off the new ball and grind out a score. They will be 5-for- by the end of play. guaranteed. WTF is Pietersen doing back, really ? Is it like how Rooney and Lampard still get games for England ?
dinger Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 What an absolutely superb knock that was. Well played. I'm fairly confident England will bat a lot better this time round...
Barry Sanchez Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 Amatuer, first ball at the middle wicket shocker. Cook will have to take the rap for failing to employ more attacking cricket.
Barry Sanchez Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 What an absolutely superb knock that was. Well played. I'm fairly confident England will bat a lot better this time round... I fairly confident they wont. Compton must be laughing his tits off.
dubai_phil Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 FFS I go to the shop for 10 minutes and we're two down? Where's the cut & paste function At this rate if the weather holds it will be a 5-0 whitewash To the Aussies
Lets B Avenue Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 The Yarpie 3rd umpire, Erasmus, must have money on the Aussies as that's 2 shockers he's had on DRS. How he can give Agar's stumping not out, due to doubt and not apply the same to Trott's LBW stinks. Fat gimp.
dinger Posted 11 July, 2013 Posted 11 July, 2013 That Trott decision was very poor IMO. Absolutely no basis to overturn the onfield call. Nevertheless, a dignified and composed performance from Cook and KP to settle things down. Particularly KP, not playing his typical game. Just what England needed. Strange day of cricket all round though. It's certainly been an interesting contest so far.
Junction 9 Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 That Trott decision was very poor IMO. Absolutely no basis to overturn the onfield call. Nevertheless, a dignified and composed performance from Cook and KP to settle things down. Particularly KP, not playing his typical game. Just what England needed. Strange day of cricket all round though. It's certainly been an interesting contest so far. Having seen all types of footage of the incident time and time again. I now think it was out. The video replays don't seem to prove it either way, but the front hotspot cam and the snickometer seem to suggest he got nothng of the bat on it. OUT!!!!
dinger Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Having seen all types of footage of the incident time and time again. I now think it was out. The video replays don't seem to prove it either way, but the front hotspot cam and the snickometer seem to suggest he got nothng of the bat on it. OUT!!!! I'm not sure there was enough to definitively overturn the onfield decision, which is what the review system is for. Seems the ICC has apologised this morning too. S'done now though. And I shall weep alone, forever alone...
Minty Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 KP goes, unsurprisingly, by chasing the runs, and ends up playing on. Effectively 57-3 now. Need an innings from Bell. Well, frankly, from all of them.
alpine_saint Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 FFS. I see KP has let his nature get the better of him yet again. Really, really poor from such a supposed elder statesman of the England team.
St Lej Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 FFS. I see KP has let his nature get the better of him yet again. Really, really poor from such a supposed elder statesman of the England team. Indeed, especially after how watchful and sensible he'd been up until then. Shame, but once he starts opening up he usually can't reign himself in. Have to accept it at times i guess. Didn't need Cook to go straight after. At the end of the day, (and i thought it at the time) in a reasonably low scoring game if you let the opposition put on 160 odd for the final wicket, there's the match right there. Clearly going to be the difference unless those well known stallwarts Bell and Bairstow can actually dig in and rescue something from this. My money is that they won't.
alpine_saint Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Indeed, especially after how watchful and sensible he'd been up until then. Shame, but once he starts opening up he usually can't reign himself in. Have to accept it at times i guess. Didn't need Cook to go straight after. At the end of the day, (and i thought it at the time) in a reasonably low scoring game if you let the opposition put on 160 odd for the final wicket, there's the match right there. Clearly going to be the difference unless those well known stallwarts Bell and Bairstow can actually dig in and rescue something from this. My money is that they won't. Yep, my thoughts too. Said yesterday one batsman's innings would win this game (and it probably has). Agar deserves MOM for that performance, along with removing the England captain as his first wicket.
alpine_saint Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Big big innings for Bell, needs a ton here. He just survived an LBW on review. Very lucky..
saints-cris Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Last chance for a really big score, one of Prior/Bell needs a big score. Broad and Swann might whack a quick 20 odd but thats it really. Looks tricky out there, but we seem to be going into our shell. Maybe Prior can up the rate a bit and put some pressure on them
alpine_saint Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Prior gone... ....and probably Englands hopes.
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Any score over 200 will be hard, the worst thing about an older wicket is not spinning, moving, air conditions but uneven bounce.
Smirking_Saint Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Im confident of another Australia batting collapse and confident that Agar hasnt got another big innings in him, hopefully Clark dives for a catch later and twinges that dodgy back a bit more. Still, we need to get over 300 atleast here IMO, its been a decent few days for the bowlers, but Agars refusal to leave yesterday has cost us big time.
Minty Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Lets just see it through to stumps, by which time hopefully we'll have about a 260 lead. If we do without losing another wicket too, I'd be hopeful of a final lead of about 330-340 and to start getting into them tomorrow afternoon. Optimistic perhaps, but why not... we've responded carefully today and are in a decent position.
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Lets just see it through to stumps, by which time hopefully we'll have about a 260 lead. If we do without losing another wicket too, I'd be hopeful of a final lead of about 330-340 and to start getting into them tomorrow afternoon. Optimistic perhaps, but why not... we've responded carefully today and are in a decent position. 330-340 lead? You are very optimistic, anything over 300 we will win I am confident of that, we have to get there first.
Smirking_Saint Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 We just need to stay in now I think, at least till the end of the day Two nearly moments there, how Broad was NOT out there ? Speechless
dinger Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 It's embarrassing. The batsman has a responsibility to walk off there. He knows he's hit that. Everyone knows.
dinger Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Just as every Aussie would walk. Oh yeah. That isn't the point. It's blatant cheating.
OldNick Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 That isn't the point. It's blatant cheating.I havent seen it, but apparently Hotspot didnt show he hit it and if it had been referred he would not have been given out.
Jimmy_D Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Nothing on Hotspot? Didn't seem to be much of a sound either. Obviously he hit it looking at replays, but maybe Broad genuinely didn't realise he had? Reckon he should have walked if he did know, but perhaps a bit more understandable that he didn't considering the other howlers that have gone against us. Having said that, Umpire should have taken any decision out of Broad's hands. Australia wasted their reviews needlessly as well.
dinger Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 I havent seen it, but apparently Hotspot didnt show he hit it and if it had been referred he would not have been given out. Watch it. It honestly couldn't be any clearer. The ball deviates by about 30 degrees off his bat. He should have walked.
saints-cris Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Its The Ashes, Im glad he didnt walk. Its the umpires job to get it right.
dinger Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Nothing on Hotspot? Didn't seem to be much of a sound either. Obviously he hit it looking at replays, but maybe Broad genuinely didn't realise he had? Reckon he should have walked if he did know, but perhaps a bit more understandable that he didn't considering the other howlers that have gone against us. Having said that, Umpire should have taken any decision out of Broad's hands. Australia wasted their reviews needlessly as well. You're all being a lot kinder than I am, maybe I should chill out.
Smirking_Saint Posted 12 July, 2013 Posted 12 July, 2013 Not bothered he didnt walk at all, hotspot didnt show anything and the way Agar wasnt out and Trott was out was disgracefull Much better batting display though, confident now. Where the hell has Alps gone ? Oh yeah noones been out for a while
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